gabemcg 0 #1 September 28, 2010 I have under 10 WS jumps on Tony Intro and T-Bird suits and was thinking about purchasing an R-Bird. I have not flown a Phoenix Fly suit. I am tall and very light weight, and have been told that at a lower wing loading, the Phoenix Fly suit would would better for me. Comparing the two, the Tony suits seem to have higher quality zippers, and I like the leg zip extenders amongst other small details. Opinions? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #2 September 28, 2010 Both companies produce a good suit. They fly differently though. I suggest you try before you buy. Nothing worse than buyers remorse after you jump a buddies suit and wish you bought the other brand. After trying both, you will know which suit you prefer.50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #3 September 28, 2010 QuoteBoth companies produce a good suit. They fly differently though. I suggest you try before you buy. Nothing worse than buyers remorse after you jump a buddies suit and wish you bought the other brand. After trying both, you will know which suit you prefer. +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbag 0 #4 September 28, 2010 QuoteBoth companies produce a good suit. They fly differently though. I suggest you try before you buy. Nothing worse than buyers remorse after you jump a buddies suit and wish you bought the other brand. After trying both, you will know which suit you prefer. you told me to just buy the phantom 2!!!! =DIHYD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #5 September 28, 2010 Nike or Adidas? Buy a wingsuit.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #6 September 28, 2010 Regardless of brand, make sure you choose a wingsuit that fits your wingloading. And demo different suits and models. Everyone thinks the suit they are flying is the best choice, as otherwise they wouldnt have bought that one. So be your own judge. Try and demo different products, and using them in the actual function (solo, flocking, aerobatics) you intent to use it for, to get a good and clear comparison.JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsane 0 #7 September 28, 2010 Don't buy a suit that you haven't tried first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LloydDobbler 2 #8 September 28, 2010 Quote I have under 10 WS jumps on Tony Intro and T-Bird suits and was thinking about purchasing an R-Bird. I have not flown a Phoenix Fly suit. I am tall and very light weight, and have been told that at a lower wing loading, the Phoenix Fly suit would would better for me. Comparing the two, the Tony suits seem to have higher quality zippers, and I like the leg zip extenders amongst other small details. Opinions? Exactly what Monkey (& a few others) said above. You never know how it's going to fly until you put it on and fly it. Had I not gone to Flock & Dock & demoed the heck out of various suits, I would have wound up with a T-Bird. I got there and found that the Phantom2 just felt better to me. On the flipside, a friend of mine had only flown Phoenix Fly suits, and after flying an R-Bird he sold his P2 on the spot. Point is, each suit has its own flying style...and there are different tools for different purposes. What's 'best' for one person is not best for another person of the same body type. There is no 'best', except for what works for you. So get out and demo some other suits, if you can. You'll be glad you did. (And happy flying.) Signatures are the new black. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 September 28, 2010 QuoteDon't buy a suit that you haven't tried first. What he said. I own and fly wingsuits by five different manufacturers. Each has it's own merits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Titanium_Gecko 0 #10 September 28, 2010 Quote After trying both What happened to No. 3, S-FLY (Expert or Verso, in a few more jumps maybe)? Go on, be a rebel - I dare you!......lol.www.gathhelmets.co.uk www.flyyourbody.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #11 September 28, 2010 Quote Tony Suit or Phoenix Fly? ...Yes.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #12 September 29, 2010 Gabe, after Chicks Rock, I'll have a P2 for you to try, I think. I do have both brands if you wanted to try em' both side by side. You'd have to come north for that, however... (if you want to come after CR, that's fine...I'm wintering in Elsinore) Based on the body type you've indicated you have, I suspect you'll really like the acrobatic and speed qualities of the P2, but you do NEED TO FLY multiple suits so you know what you like, IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASTKU 1 #13 October 22, 2010 Sooo, whats the verdict? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #14 October 22, 2010 Quote Sooo, whats the verdict? Roughly the same as the suits you see on a DZ. Some prefer A...some prefer BJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ASTKU 1 #15 October 22, 2010 I was asking the original poster what he decided Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #16 October 22, 2010 Why not buy a T-Bird instead of an R-Bird?"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeatlast 0 #17 October 22, 2010 Tony-Fly-Your-Body It's the only way forward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
valentin 0 #18 November 15, 2010 Well, It look like I disagred with most of people, the one saying "try it and see" Except if you can make 30 or 40 jump with it. Why? Because each wing suit is diferent, I agreed with that, but because of that, before to make an opinion of one -You must learn to use it! And it maybee very diferent than your previous one. And this may take 30 or 40 jumps. Then you can have an opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #19 November 15, 2010 It takes 30 to 40 jumps to fully utilize the potential of a suit. But one or two jumps can already give you a pretty clear view on which suit flies better for your build/weight, and usually also shows you quite well what the suit is capable off. Even though you may miss the finer controlls and expert performance levels at that point. I know Ive seen people strugle with one suit for 10 jumps, than try another, and instantly have a 'click' with that suit, as it just fit their lighter frame better. There is a difference between getting a feel of a suit (how it flies, how its made, how you use it etc) and dialing in the performance to expert levels....that takes longer...JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac 1 #20 November 17, 2010 Just an inexperienced thought, as I recently went through the T-Bird or R-Bird process after only getting into WS recently (20+ WS jumps (Most T-Bird & R-Bird)... if you can, test jump the R-Bird before buying one... I felt that I would progress more efficiently with the T-Bird than the R-Bird.... I found there to be enough difference in these two suits, that I would not have maximised my progression flying the R-Bird. I bought a T-Bird after flying both... Just a thought is all.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OG-Tahiti 0 #21 November 17, 2010 I'd like to add my newbie two bits about wingsuit loading. When you demo a certain wingsuit you also need to take into account how it fits you... I did my FFC on a Phantom2 that was a bit tight on me, then switched to another Phantom2 at around 4 jumps that was a bit too big for me. Well they flew VERY differently, flet like flying a totally different suit. Hope it helps "Common sense is not so common" - Voltaire Dudeist Skydiver #9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites