pierre3636 0 #1 March 31, 2011 I might be totally off but if anyone can chip in and let me know it would be great - is there a new high end suit from TS called the x2? ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #2 March 31, 2011 Yes, the X has become the X2."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #3 March 31, 2011 so its an upgrade ie new suit? ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #4 March 31, 2011 Quote so its an upgrade ie new suit? Yes, the X was upgraded to the X2 like the V3 was upgraded to the V4. "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #5 March 31, 2011 cool tks for info cheers ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #6 March 31, 2011 And Birdman has a cool new belt buckle. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #7 March 31, 2011 you mean i cant buy yours anymore ... kidding !! hope your well MB ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SamLaming 0 #8 March 31, 2011 QuoteI might be totally off but if anyone can chip in and let me know it would be great - is there a new high end suit from TS called the x2? Above is spot on. Met Tony at Zhills a few weeks back (One of our local instructors is friends with Tony) and was lucky enough to see his one, it sounded like he still had a few things to sort on it/test but it looked pretty impressive :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electronaut 0 #9 March 31, 2011 Saw one at Sebastian during Invasion boogie over new years, it's a whole lotta wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oddern 0 #10 April 2, 2011 Got 35 jumps on the suit and did my first base jump on the X2 today. Love the suit. Flys very fast and stable. Its high performance suit so to fly it need alot of ws flights on a smaller (S-Bird is a good suit before start flying a X2) suit before getting into a X2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #11 April 2, 2011 Dude, you didn't just refer to the S-Bird as an "introductory" suit did you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imsparticus 0 #12 April 3, 2011 Sure it is, in my home country australia many a first flight course has been done in an s-bird prototype. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigless 0 #13 April 3, 2011 Any pics / vids of the suit?"All limits are self imposed." Icarus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oddern 0 #14 April 3, 2011 Here is some pics of the X2. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCaptain 2 #15 April 4, 2011 They now have the info on their website X2Kirk He's dead Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imsparticus 0 #16 April 9, 2011 Looks like suits have finall made it connecting the hand to the toe lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #17 April 11, 2011 A TRUE Matress.Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigless 0 #18 April 11, 2011 I guess this is what will happen after X-2..."All limits are self imposed." Icarus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deniq 0 #19 April 11, 2011 Quote I guess this is what will happen after X-2... Leonardo da Vinci was one of the first wingsuit-designer. We approach us step by step to his ws-prototype Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imsparticus 0 #20 April 12, 2011 I think Pf have the right idea (with the V4) of using the arm to leg extension to streamline the leg and not add unnessesary fabric, tony seems to be using it as an opportunity to add surface area. with pressurisation as good as it is now (only limited by the ram effect on the inlet) im interested to see just how much fabric he can add before flapping and just how slow the suit can go cant imagine it improoving L/D though. both suits seem not to have the smoothest transition from arm extention to legwing, seems the foot is now sticking out like a sore thumb to?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oddern 0 #21 April 13, 2011 The X2 is the fastest suit from Tonysuits. And its FAST as HELL. And its easy to fly. So it will defenetly give the V4 good competition. And thats just what we need for the ws evolution. Thank god for different developers and that their pushing the sport forward. I personally love to fly Tonysuit. Let the fun begin :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #22 April 14, 2011 X2 compares to Venom more (even Tony himself made comments in that direction). When in comes to flying speed amd performance, most people here on Zhills comparing both seem to compare them in results, yet differ in flight feeling/controll a lot. Venom and Xbird aside..V4 is a whole other animal. As you recommend in another thread..try before buying;) Floaty flying and agility are two totaly different flight envelopes...folding back wings to gain speed is a different thing than actual fast flying. YMMVJC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oddern 0 #23 April 14, 2011 Actually I dont agree with you Jarno but then again its not the first time :) The X2's angle of attac is actually quite steep and one of the things that makes this suit so very fast and easy to fly. But with the try before buying I actyally agree with you. If people try the X2 they will LOVE the suit I promiss you. And I will defenatly give the V4's some good competition with my X2 ;) The V4 maybe a whole other animal. But I promiss you the X2 is a BEAST waiting to have fun with that animal :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imsparticus 0 #24 April 14, 2011 I think wingsuiting needs to put together flying devisions like in boxing but height and weight as peramiters maybe height divided by weight or something like that so when 2 different people can compare suits or compete against eachother and be almost equally matched phisics wise and if they wernt a handicapp of some sort could be applied to level the playing field if everyone thats done the online wingsuit comp were also put in devisions the numbers they post would be somuch more valuble it would eventually paint a rough picture for what we need.........just a thaught Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deniq 0 #25 April 14, 2011 Quote The X2's angle of attac is actually quite steep and one of the things that makes this suit so very fast and easy to fly. Oddern - huge wingsuit-surface produce more drag as a smaller wingsuit. Just see results for "Speed" on Paralog Preformace Competition: http://www.paralog.net/ppc/showspeedcomp.php First places are for Vampire-3 (smaller as X-Bird). I suppose, V4 or X2 indicate in fact lower speed, because of higher drag. "Wings over Gransee" is this year 26-28 August. We can see it in late summer Genaral point: for better evaluation of the flight performace we need something like "wingsuit wingload" = wingsuit surface devided by pilot's exit weight. Results from Gransee point: light pilots in big wingsuits (low wingsuit wingload) fly well "Time". Weighty pilots (high wingsuit wingload) are better in "Speed". For "Distance" is the wingsuit wingload secondary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites