phoenixlpr 0 #1 July 6, 2011 I got a perfect knot on my bridle over the d-bag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 July 6, 2011 hey David Copperfield, I challenge you to undo the knot on next jump scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #3 July 7, 2011 This occurred to another WS guy a few months back. His bridle was 12' long! But...yours is significantly further down. Any chance you got video of your deployment? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voilsb 1 #4 July 7, 2011 There've been a couple of times where I've landed with a half hitch in my bridle. I can't remember if it was closer to the bag or the pilot chute, but it wasn't super close to either.Brian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grayhghost 0 #5 July 7, 2011 super-ultra-mega scary everything turned out fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #6 July 7, 2011 Doesn't this come from pulling the pilot chute out of the BOC, then holding it a second or two before releasing it ( while the bridle horseshoes ) ?Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grayhghost 0 #7 July 7, 2011 No, you can check out the video if you like. The PC hops around in the burble (big V4 burble) after a clean and quick pitch. http://vimeo.com/26025408 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #8 July 7, 2011 Now imagine that some one with 5 GoPros on hands, feet and rhino mounts...JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #9 July 7, 2011 He *is* wearing a helmet, wrist, and foot mount on that jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpsalot-2 3 #10 July 8, 2011 Quote No, you can check out the video if you like. The PC hops around in the burble (big V4 burble) after a clean and quick pitch. http://vimeo.com/26025408 Quote Nice video. I had to slow it down to frame by frame during the second or two ( at 5;16 ), I may be blind....I don't see the toss, in high speed or frame by frame, just the pilot chute caught in his burble. If that was a clean pitch, I think we would see it..... Life is short ... jump often. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grayhghost 0 #11 July 8, 2011 You can't see it because it is a leg-pouch and the camera is on his helmet. You can see the speed of his hand and understand that he is not holding onto the PC. Frode is an extremely experienced pilot so I don't think that is the issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflaw 0 #12 July 8, 2011 happened to one of the red bull guys in Perris too..he was flying a venom...except, his main totaled as the bridle had wrapped the pc...big suits and big burbles...we'll see more of this I bet Is there a problem? Is it too insignificant to worry about since its very rare? If this is a problem, do we need technological solutions? Or, is proper training enough (remember the video is of frode johansen a jumper with 20 years of experience) to the original posters knot: assuming the bag was out of the container, the pc must have already generated pull force and thus the pc must have been out of the burble. Am I off or am I being captain obvious? I have had similar knots in my bridle. During main opening the pc dances violently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yorick 0 #13 July 8, 2011 Quote Nice video. I had to slow it down to frame by frame during the second or two ( at 5;16 ), I may be blind....I don't see the toss, in high speed or frame by frame, just the pilot chute caught in his burble. If that was a clean pitch, I think we would see it..... Your right. The didn't include the toss in the video. - The first frame is the pilotchute on his legwing. - The the pilot comes forward. - The flyer reaches back (looking for the bridle/pilot chute) - Grabs the bridle and pulls it in the clear air stream - Pilotchute comes out of the burble and does what it does best. If the toss was good, than this is bad... If the toss was bad; we don't have to worry. (user error)"The 'perfect' parachute jump was thought to be one where the opening shock and touchdown were simultaneous" -Lyle Cameron, ~1965 --- Falling-With-Style.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #14 July 8, 2011 The toss isn't the video, perhaps Greyghost has seen the full sequence? As Freeflaw suggested, I think we'll see more of this. Seeing quite a few problems with low-time people in big suits, and several of them don't have proper bridles, PC's. I've collected a dozen videos of near-"PC in tow" due to burbles of big suits and/or crap tosses with short bridles, small PC's, etc. Got a great one a couple weeks ago with a guy in an Sbird, short bridle and 26" PC; Line twists up the wazoo due to the head-down he went into while waiting for the PC to clear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trae 1 #15 July 9, 2011 in reply to "If the toss was good, than this is bad... If the toss was bad; we don't have to worry. (user error) " ..................................... I wonder how many of us will be doing bridle/pc clearing exercises from now on ? absolutely excellent save Frodo :) hope we all learn from this, especially manufacturers !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #16 July 9, 2011 I think we will start to see a rash of really hard openings also. I was talking with a jumper that had a brutal opening the other week because it looked like his main towed behind him for a few seconds before inflating but it had allowed the slider to move down some before opening.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
