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This site is apparently going tit's up. As the gal who had the biggest thread ( except db) I want to say thank you to all of you for the discourse over the years. It's been fun!

Sounds like an agenda, doesn’t it?

Looks like the big brains in Silicon Valley are eschewing renewables and going nuclear with fossil fuels as a bridge “Across the tech sector, companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon and Metaare all getting into nuclear tech” “until these plants are running, many AI data centers will have to operate using natural gas.” https://www.npr.org/2024/12/09/nx-s1-5171063/artificial-intelligence-wants-to-go-nuclear-will-it-work

"Cough! Cough!" I might know more than most about what it feels like to be an un-documented alien working in the USA. "Cough!" "Cough!" Since the stature of limitations has long run out ... My first week in the USA I started reading newspaper stories about undocumented immigrants from Central America being deported after they were arrested (American municipal police) for drinking and driving, robbery, buggery, thuggery, etc. Since I had never been in the habit of selling drugs or beating my wife, I continued to refrain from those evil activities. After I quit drinking, police pulled me over for a burnt out tail-light. Since I had a spare light bulb on board, I even offered to replace it on the side of the road. As soon as they realized that I had not been drinking, police quickly lost interest. "Cough!" "Cough!" Bottom line, most undocumented immigrants are smart enough to avoid petty crime and leave the police bored. Bored police do not arrest or deport people.

Of course, it was just Trump being Trump; he really doesn't mean what he says. He is simply pandering to an especially ignorant part of his base and the remaining willfully ignorant part of his base. Everyone needs to just be reasonable and read between the lines and hope for the best. In the words of Dan Hicks and the Hot Licks: You gotta believe.

Concrete Rebound Hammer

I have decided to break my self imposed boycott for a post as DZ may be gone forever soon… Here are some of my current thoughts for year 2024.. Merry Christmas.. whether you agree with these comments or not.. take em or leave em. Why did Cooper try to give the stews ransom money (and other criminals do this), Simple, it taints or compromises the witnesses, are they going to be completely honest if they got some cash… Nope. They will “obstruct” if they have taken money. Dan Gryder youtube videos,,, temporarily sucking all the oxygen from the case. It is obvious to anyone with a very basic understanding of the case that the McCoy container and canopy he claims to have found do NOT match Cooper’s, not even close. It is as wrong as can be. McCoy was not Cooper, the FBI McCoy files and Cooper files are clear. The media is a sucker for these hyped stories. Gryder's 15 minutes are up. He has nowhere to go from here. Now, attacking the FBI won't go over well for credibility, he is cornered and just humiliating himself. His only allies are the fake comments left on his youtube channel praising him.. after he deletes all the legit ones. Is any publicity good publicity? Andrade.. stylometry for text under 3000 words is "random noise". This is a quote from the inventor of R Stylo. I did a lot of Stylo work using R Stylo sodtware on the letters before Andrade was doing it. Dayton has no letter connection to Gunther. It is random noise there is no signal there. Stylo is useless for short text. Need 3000 words or more… Many jumped on this,, no, no, no, it is noise, no signal. Gunther… Dave and I were right… Gunther did not make it all up.. Yes, many of you were incorrect.. He was contacted by somebody claiming to be Cooper and somebody about 10 years later, that may have been a hoaxer or possibly Cooper himself. The consensus was wrong. Pro tip, never follow a consensus, especially in this case. Skip Hall… NO, Look at images and he has extreme creases across his forehead and down the sides. Not one Norjak witness mentioned this and it would not be missed. Skip’s creases are severe and eliminate him. Skip is the NEO KC. Eliminated. Sorry Mr Limbach. Skip may be an interesting guy, not Cooper. NOBODY would have missed those forehead creases. Not to mention, no actual connection to NORJAK. That is not Cooper's forehead. Cunningham.. has messed up the timestamps for the flightpath map and misled the Vortex. He has shifted the time by two minutes at the Columbia River.. 8:18 has become 8:16.. this is NOT accurate and NOT backed by any evidence. It is misleading to move Cooper’s jump time 2 minutes or 6 miles South at the Columbia. Cunningham made two distinct errors, he has speculated that the SAGE map creator marked the times off by one minute because there is an unlabelled mark is missing early in the flightpath, this is pure speculation. When the path is analyzed and the segments measured over the entire path the missing mark is irrelevant, the plane was travelling at a relatively consistent speed. It is a hard to explain but the area missing the mark has wider spaces between marks so over a larger time increment there is no change in plane speed. Second, Cunningham missed a mark N of the Columbia, look at the segment on his map before the Columbia and after, it is nearly triple the distance between minute marks,, obviously this is impossible, you can’t unsee it, the plane can’t speed up and slow down that much over that distance. Do not accept Cunningham’s recalculated flight map times they are simply not accurate and misrepresenting the evidence. This is impossible. 8:15 to 8:16 is almost 3x the distance from 8:16 to 8:17... WRONG WRONG WRONG Cooper’s LZ,,, It keeps moving further South, there is no evidence for this. At 8:09 there was a mark on the FDR and pitch correction, that had to be Cooper going to the bottom of the stairs initiating drag. At 8:11, there were increasing pressure fluctuations on the gauge culminating in an extreme fluctuation felt by the crew and described as a bump. So, the key question is how long were the fluctuations to the final bump. The idea that the 8:11 fluctuations were Cooper going down the stairs doesn’t fit the evidence, if Cooper was going down the stairs at 8:11 then the plane would have pitched then and there would have been a mark on the FDR at 8:11 not 8:09. Cooper went down the stairs at 8:09 marked on the FDR.. (There is a possibility the 8:09 FDR and 8:11 fluctuations are the same thing and times got messed up, the FBI checked 8:09 time on the tape but always possible there is an error) So, the 8:11 fluctuations were not Cooper going down the stairs. I can see Cooper jumping from about 8:12 to 8:15.. and 8:15 is about Battleground. If Cooper jumped and pulled at 8:12 he could have drifted up to 6 miles N (2 minutes on map) to about 8:10, that could put him just N of the Lewis River. So, my LZ is just N of the Lewis to Battleground. The consensus moving the LZ more and more south is not based on evidence but groupthink. If Cooper jumped at 8:15 Battleground he could have drifted to about 8:13 on the map... a no pull is straight down of course but a no pull is extremely unlikely. Ron, the hydrologist new to the Vortex drew a conclusion without all the TBAR information, he did have the Palmer report. TBAR is full of debris. His TBAR assumption was incorrect. 99% the money came from the River. TBAR was a debris trap. The insect wing scale found on the tie appears to match a casebearing moth tough I couldn't find a SEM image for these species, there are two virtually identical species identified, one is extreme Southern US to South America, the other is virtually everywhere so no help there. These are two different species. The fungus found on the tie matches penicillium. Everywhere, may have grown in storage after NORJAK. The hair/fiber on the tie matches cashmere. This might be what they call a clue. Foundry… Nope, another rabbit hole, foundries use specific sand with binders added not typical river sand like Fazio’s. That waste sand is unique to the metal used by the foundry and foundry waste sand is reused for many other purposes. My latest research indicates to me that Cooper obtained the tie weeks before the hijacking and it wasn’t from a thrift shop or anything random like that. I have matched it to a specific environment and identified a person. This includes the updated particles like Uranuim, Thorium and Mercury… the key to understanding the tie is not to pick one or two particles and try to find a matching environment but to match the wide variety to an environment. The wide diversity of particles is the unique fingerprint. There is no way to 100% confirm the tie environment. and NO, not metallurgy. Give it up. The bomb expert. Interesting guy, but he concluded the bomb was likely not real mainly because the legal charge is higher using a real bomb vs fake,,, this is misleading and out of context, in 1971 hijacking was a capital offence so real or fake bomb didn't matter. The bomb question was Daren's signature line and funny because nobody really knows so answers were like a Rorschach. Most everyone said fake.. since nobody really knows why does everyone choose fake.. so I took the other side and argued it might be real on the forum just to be a contrarian.. Eventually, more people moved to possibly real. Still, nobody knows but I lean slightly REAL based on other explosive information. Sketch A vs B,,, Sketch B is the most accurate, no question, I have an undisclosed Cooper image and it is close to B.. Granted B is still a composite sketch but it is more accurate than A. The FBI agrees. I can't share my evidence, if I did everyone would agree on sketch B. Don't ask. also, witnesses liked Murphy (with the glasses and hat, not without), matches sketch B very very well. Sketch A not as well. Extremely unlikely Cooper’s container was an NB6. Cossey described it as a modified NB6, 28’ round canopy. The packing card found says Pioneer, Steinthal canopy 24’ conical. So, Cossey’s description is way off. Cossey was contacted and given the description of the tan chute left in the plane so he got that one right. A round is not a conical., they are different. A 28’ can fit in a modified NB6 but the card says it was a 24’, a NB6 is a 26’ container,, would a smaller chute be put into a larger container, don't think so. Cossey isn't even close to the packing card description. Both of Hayden's chutes were Pioneer containers,, Cossey only ever referred to the one left in the plane as a Pioneer. What likely happened,, Cossey was contacted and asked for chutes he agreed for all 4 to be obtained from Issaquah. Emrich was getting the 4 chutes but was contacted to only get the front chest chutes as the two backs were obtained from Hayden. Emrich sent the two front chest reserves. But Cossey still believed that his back chutes were sent and used.. Cossey was contacted (he claimed the night of the hijacking) and was given the description of the back chute left behind. He then gave his description of the missing chute he believed was his NB6. It wasn’t, we know it was Hayden's. Cossey must have learned of his error soon after but never corrected the record and never supplied his packing records. So, Cossey’s description of the chute Cooper used is completely wrong and unreliable. None of it can be used. It may not even be an all white canopy. Hayden believed his chutes were the same/similar other than colour, this makes sense for a set of bailout rigs. You aren’t going to use different rigs and one modified. His tan chute left in the plane was an early 1940’s Pioneer P2-B-24.. these were mostly civilian and sometimes military use. There were similar era military versions in olive drab, that is likely what Cooper used, not a Korea era NB6. It is even possible Cooper’s chute was found but rejected due to Cossey’s misrepresentation. Finally, the DNA as I suspected is virtually dead,, especially if the tie was not Cooper’s before the hijacking. So, how do we put a suspect on the plane. Fingerprints, but If Cooper obscured his prints that may also be dead. I am working on one last Hail Mary to forensically put a suspect on the plane, after that it will be a circumstantial case. Not ideal but that may be all we have left.

Fun fact - American citizens commit violent crimes at twice the rate that illegal immigrants do. So if you are worried about precious innocent defenseless etc American girls being raped, getting more illegal immigrants in your town (and fewer people like Trump) is your best option.

I just love how willingly they now unmask themselves everywhere in general and specifically here on SC. Their 15 minutes to crow here is about to come to a screeching halt and they don’t want to waste a second. Even Jay who, you know, just drops by every decade or so to marvel at our liberal circle jerk has now joined in almost minute by minute and even updated his avatar to be more relevant. Finally, puppy kicking is back.

That's a bit of a stretch to come to that conclusion from the data provided. Just because the market share has dropped doesn't mean the number of viewers has stayed the same (and they all just went to another channel). More likely that a lot of us watched a lot of the shows for information from the candidates as the different platforms covered the public appearances. Now that the election is over, I would conclude that the people still watching as much FOX as they did before the election is skewing the percentages, since they're still getting the dopamine hit from the continuous victory laps and hate rhetoric toward the other party, which fuels more desire to keep watching. The rest of us are just decompressing and moving on to the holidays. But that's just my take on the data. I'm not hearing whining on this side, just some self-reflection on the messaging during the campaign and concern over the unqualified nominees to the cabinet. YMMV (obviously).

With republicans, accusation is confession. Remember when Trump called Mexicans rapists?

I have met plenty of right-wingers who are religiously intolerant and harbour hatred towards their own kind. That is why I fear extremists on both ends of the spectrum.

Happy late and early birthday Deedy! This may be the last HBD post here.

Ya know, it’s people who use being a girl as an insult who make it quite clear that sexism is real Wendy P.

You know what, we are often on opposite ends, but I appreciate the humanity you bring to the table, which tends to be missing these days.

Brother, that's quite a leap. "Sick fuck pedo's" will pose as anything to gain access. Nor, are they just male. I don't understand the trans/cross dressing thing, but I also know my framework lies in the constituion - the right to pursue happiness. If they wanna do it and it's not hurting anyone - how is that my business.

Funny how you assume I’m filled with hate. The only ones in this convo I said I hated was a potential pedo who might dress as a trans for the purposes of molesting a child.

I guess I'm not good at defining my meaning. In my mind sick fuck = pedophile. I know the chances are rare but never zero.

This has been a noticeable piece of my life for over 20 years; I joined in mid-2002. There are friends from here who are no longer alive, others who have moved on from skydiving, and ones who I correspond with offline. I jump with one regularly now; we were on different coasts (there are three to choose from). Thanks for being a big piece of my life Wendy P.

I would entertain more requests for personal emails from many of you. Please PM me before the site shuts down! Tanya ETA -- Thanks, Sangrio. It's been great!

Hi Wendy, Yup, back in those days you could pick any number that was not taken. When Jerry Rouillard worked for USPA, he stayed up to almost midnight processing licenses until D-2000 came up & he grabbed it for himself. Just for the trivia folks, Jerry Baumchen

Yepper - ten bags full of coincidience! Cossey was also friends with bears, geese, dogs, cats, tree mice,k and polar bears! Keep workin them angles Sim King .......... Have you seen Elvis lately and Roy Rogers ? How is Tonto ?

Wow this topic really hits close to home. I quit for twenty years while I raised my kids, but I never stopped thinking about the sky. This year my youngest started college so I decided to start jumping again. I still love it ! Can’t believe I ever stopped really, but one thing I’ve learned in the 57 years I’ve been on this rock is that life is not always about me. There’s nothing more important than raising your kids, love them, love them, love them. But there is more to raising kids than protecting them. Self preservation is natural, and they’ll figure that out on their own. Knowing how to live is a bit trickier, and I have a feeling that’s where your parenting skills will soar. Skydiving is a gift, and you know that, don’t hide it from your kids just to keep them safe. It’s better to teach them how to be safe in a dangerous world, than to hide from it. Didn’t mean to get so deep, but don’t want you to make the same mistakes that I did. What I did want to say is when you’re ready the sport will welcome you back with open arms, they did me. It has changed a lot. They’re both better and safer than we were. They talk more about packing, and landings, and flight patterns, and they’re better because of it. You will need new gear though, they laughed at my old five cell swift reserve, and it was state of the art when I got it. The gear is better, and the training is better. These kids are doing amazing things in the air, the sport is progressing nicely. But belly flying is still about the same, and they still make canopies that go slower when they’re open than when they’re packed, so don’t be intimidated by the changes. But don’t wait too long, a happy parent is better than a grumpy one.