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Everything posted by Hominid
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Is this another of those homosexual stories?
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Wouldn't have been at all reliable if he did it purposely. It could have laid in the wilderness for a hundred years without anyone finding it. And it would be unlikely to be recognized as related to the hijacking. The guy who found it didn't realize it for a while. He only picked it up because of the ethic of picking up trash in the wilds.
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I don't remember where this one is. A lot of pix of different parts. http://www.airplanehome.com/
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"Plot" generally refers to putting the individual data points on something, such as a preprinted map. The data was numeric, a list of latitudes and longitudes for specific times. The list was likely on that wide "line printer" paper that used to be used around mainframe computers. This is probably what it would be if they used one of the "Q7" computers to do the calcs. This is most likely because the computations would have been repetative. Also, they probably had done the same kind of "track" computations for numerous past incidents. They could just use a program they had already developed. But the list could have been on notebook paper or the like. NWA would have had people who could do the plot if the airforce had given them the coordinates/times. But I think the airforce would have plotted it themselves. It would not have been the FBI that did it.
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The explanation with the map says positions were obtained from the USAF radar plot. I think that was the "FBI" flightpath plot. There are 2 of the positions plotted(D & E). The adjacent two aren't marked but the flight centerline goes through them and leads off N and S toward the next two points. All precisely as shown on the "FBI" plot.
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Good. I thought everyone must be waiting for Jo to return.
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Yeah. And it can make small deliveries happen quick. Maybe not too accurate. Maybe nothing fragile. But quick
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More fun, but the stair could be hiding behind the guy. BTW: They removed the upper, fixed part of the stair as well as the extendable one. The jumpers go from the little landing just outside the aft door. From a video of a woman taking a tandem I could see that even the stair control station was gone.
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There are a few pix & videos scattered around the web. For some of them, at least, they totally removed the airstair and paneled the sides of the stairwell. (see pic) In Norjak the stair was hanging loose, being held up in varying degrees by airflow and pushed partly down by the hijacker's weight until he jumped. The stair was not in the fully down position even when he was out on the end of it.
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None of the "described turbulence" or "opening shock" has been experienced by anyone here having jumped from the end of an airstair on a 727.
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Along with all else known to mankind
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err, ahh, writer, it's "nor."
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OK. I've learned the lesson.
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I didn't mind the bold, Jo. I was just teasing because it looked like you had been cut off, because the last you wrote was: "THE ONLY THING THIS WHOLE SITUATION POINTS TO:"
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Whoops! Looks like you exceeded the new limit on use of bold type
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I doubt that Boeing has any interest in preserving info re. "Cooper" history. Nor much about 727 design or construction. Nor 727-100 drag/lift for 15 deg or 30 deg with gear down. I'm depressed.
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Carr posted here long ago that Coop had thought that the stairs were dropped from the cockpit. Based on Tina statement of what Coop said to her when he was told the plane couldn't take off with the stair down.
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From a '96 AP article by Michael Taylor: "... Cooper told Rataczak that after the money and parachutes had been delivered, he wanted the pilot to head south from Seattle, depressurize the cabin, fly no higher than 10,000 feet, leave the landing gear down, set flaps at 15 degrees ...." The article also included some quotes of Rataczak, none of which mentioned 10,000.
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Yeah, if this were the entirety of his commands.
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In a 21 Jan 97 Arizona Daily Star article about a presentation by Scott: "Once Cooper got his sack of money, he ordered Scott to fly as low and slowly as possible and drop the back steps." edit: Not a quote of Scott, but of the article.
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Yes, if that was truly his demand. The msg in the transcript is someone's best attempt, possibly under time pressure, to record what the person thought he heard the 305 crew say what Coop had specified.
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So, if Coop says under (or not over) 10,000 and the crew needs to fly as high as they can to minimize fuel consumption and to maximize radio range and radar tracking range, that means go AT 10,000.
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"We" know because "we" haven't read the "transcript" or "we" haven't understood what was said there about the topic. If you've heard this so often, etc., you've been listening to the clueless. Look in the TTY part of the "transcript" for what Boeing said was needed. (Read "flat position" as "flap position.") Let's not divert attention from the original question.
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