MeyerLouie

To me anyway...it's seems we've come upon what we here in Texas call a dry hole. Everyone has for the most part 'made their case' and in lieu of additional information there really isn't anything to talk about...so the grumpys come out. One poster is approaching things with fresh ideas, doing some thorough investigating and using state of the art equipment to possibly open new areas of investigation...that's a plus. Jo is hopefully about to open her books so to speak, that could be interesting...if it happens. You and a few others are a wealth of knowledge as far as separating the bubble gum from the chicken shit...others are nothing more than an aggravating distraction with their personal attacks and near psychotic obsessions. Distill all the bullshit out of these threads and you have a goldmine of facts, theories and intellectual discussion. Unfortunately it's become a bad knock-off of the Jerry Springer show. Though it's disgusting at times...it IS hard to resist watching a train wreck! _________________________________________________ Airtwardo: You crack me up... bubble gum and chicken shit.... I agree, things are at a stalemate, it would be good for something to break the case wide open. And in spite of it all, there's some really good information here. I am enjoying going back to the very old posts for that very reason. MeyerLouie

QuoteWarning: Off topic post. Don't bitch too much please. I spent a long time this evening working on this picture. It's a blow up from David Green's now-famous photograph of 'Suspect #2' in the Boston bombings. __________________________________________________ You just can't help yourself, Mr. 25%, can you? MeyerLouie

[ As it stands, all of the personal crud being posted has pretty much destroyed the thread anyway. ...Thought I'd never say this, but this thread has become a total bore. __________________________________________________ Wrong Blevins. Two people who have hogged over 50% of the show here have destroyed this forum. If the thread is a total bore, then you are 25% responsible for that, since you have put up 25% of the posts here. Take some resposibility and be accountable for the part you (and Jo) have played in making this forum less than it could be. MeyerLouie

RIGHT on Blevins. Short and DIRECT!

__________________________________________________ Jo, Quit teasing, just do it!

__________________________________________________ Airtwardo: Lately, I have been spending lots of time reading the earliest DZ posts, way back to 2007. I read some of yours. I like your sense of humor, you crack me up. From what I've been reading, the bickering that goes on here almost seems like a picnic compared to some of the bickering back then. Even some of your posts could have used a bit more sugar and a little less vinegar. Back then, Quade was more involved, he posted more often, but a lot of the attacks seemed to be directed at him. He always took the road, though. Maybe more of us should do that here. I think the "biker bar" atmosphere has always been here, and it will probably always be here. People will come and people will go. Some of the early posters are still here -- you, 377, Jo -- among others. But so many of the good ones aren't here anymore -- ones who have real expertise, real skills, and real knowledge. Today, we have people who have their pet suspect, then they spend all their time pegging that suspect to fit the facts of the case. The early posters didn't do that so much. They went with the facts and evidence, as is. Today, we've got a handful of folks (like 2) trying to force a square peg into a round hole -- and they're taking up way too much air time (like 53%) trying to do it. It's ridiculous, some of the quality people have left because of it. MeyerLouie

I was merely responding to your juvenile assessment that since you can't/won't/don't want to read the KC report...that somehow it doesn't exist and no one else has seen it. Or even wants to. __________________________________________________ Do you really think I'm going to put myself through another rendition of your KC broken record? You know, the one with all the anecdotes about your adventures in the Methow, in Twisp, and interviewing that 3-breasted lady with all the horses (I checked "Blast," she had 3, not 4 -- my mistake). I don't need to read it, Blevins, and I never will, ever. Got that? Never, ever! I don't need to -- you've spent the last 3 years regurgitating the same ol' KC stuff over and over and over again. That's why you're "Mr. 25%," Blevins. You've hogged 25% of the post time here telling and re-telling and re-telling your KC tale of circumstantial coincidences. Don't act so surprised that folks in the know won't bother reading your tunnel-vision tale of KC and the boys. MeyerLouie

What contibutions have U made MeyerLouie? Yes, Blevins was wrong to promote his book, but he does try until certain posters goad him into defending himself. He has of recently showed restraint from tooting his book. As for JO - I have been on this thread since it started and the thread before that one. I am not selling anything. If I did not have to defend myself and my actions from the attacks made by those who DO nothing other than complain and insist that everything I have be made public - multiple posts to defend my rights would not be necessary. I try NOT to respond to the harse post and continue to tell what I am working on....but, there are those out there who want the research so they can claim it as their own - why? I do NOT know. Neither U or Shutter have posted anything of value as far as research is concerned. IF so why don't U make an outline of those productive postings...and disclose your reasons for each idea, suggestion or original idea either one of U have made. State why your post forwarded the goal of this thread? I do NOT even know if Shutter's simulated flight was actually authorized and his sources need to be posted. Do not demand of other what neither of you provide to the thread! _________________________________________________ Okay Jo, what "assignments" do you have for me to research? I assure you, I am doing my own research, but I like to have something in hand before I ramble on endlessly about why my research produced zero results, how it isn't progressing, or what I think I might or might not do. I'm going to try to have something tangible, real, and valuable by 17 years. I have been researching the old posts from the old DZ forum (2007) I am paying particular attention to your words. Back then, people were actually talking about the many facets of the case -- on a regular basis, and CKRET was there too. I'm taking notes... MeyerLouie

Well, I'd say that since the FBI has interviewed over a thousand suspects and has investigated the case for more than four decades without result...(we won't count their 'we have a viable suspect' statement for Marla Cooper)...well, you can figure out the rest. No evidence? You're kidding, right. As far as contributions to the Cooper thread, you haven't contributed one darn thing lately that I have seen. Zip, zero, nada, negatory, zilch. __________________________________________________ And your KC report is evidence (I think that's what you're calling it) the FBI won't even waste time even opening. You've attached it, do you really think I'm going to read it? MeyerLouie Him couldn't even get KOIN to bite! Nor any other news media either. When I asked one official he said: "who"? Who is HIM?" I said, "the HIM that runs a book store in Seattle". "Never heard of that either"! Correlation is not Causation in any event. I doubt Him and Airtwardo even know what that means, much less ever heard of it before! MeyerLouie: When someone offers up evidence, it is not the fault of the person doing the offering if the person offered such evidence chooses not to read it. That's like sticking your fingers in your ear and saying, 'Na, na, na, na...I can't hear YOU...' Kind of juvenile if you think about it. There is also an important point here regarding that evidence: It names sources, and provides contact information for those sources. So it isn't just Robert saying this or that and asking people to take my word for everything. Helen Jones, Margaret Geestman, Bernie Geestman, Carolyn Tyner, Marisa Kagan, and Pete Berg, to name a few. We'll toss in Ann Grimes, too. She and her husband were the ones who sold Kenny the house, and later the adjoining lot. Her husband Joe died a few years ago, but Ann is still alive and living in Puyallup. Contrary to your 'na-na' statement, there is plenty of evidence on Christiansen. Whether it means he was the hijacker, I can't say for sure. I just provided what is available on him. I don't have a bookstore, either...and I have not provided the report to any media on my own. Why would I go to KOIN anyway? LOL...I live in SEATTLE. __________________________________________________ Thanks for that unsolicited review of your circumstantial coincidences....again. Guess you felt a need to do that since I (and others no doubt) are not going to bother reading it. MeyerLouie

Well, I'd say that since the FBI has interviewed over a thousand suspects and has investigated the case for more than four decades without result...(we won't count their 'we have a viable suspect' statement for Marla Cooper)...well, you can figure out the rest. No evidence? You're kidding, right. As far as contributions to the Cooper thread, you haven't contributed one darn thing lately that I have seen. Zip, zero, nada, negatory, zilch. __________________________________________________ And your KC report is evidence (I think that's what you're calling it) the FBI won't even waste time even opening. You've attached it, do you really think I'm going to read it? How did you and Jo get to be so much smarter than the FBI? It's like those idiots over there in Quantico can't do anything right. Well, you can't even get out of your own way. The FBI gives you about as much attention as they give Jo -- zilch, nada, zip, zero, negatory. I think the FBI pays more attention to people who provide real evidence -- not just fuzzy memories and circumstantial coincidences. You're wrong, Buzzard Breath, I have made a major contribution as of late -- I have helped confirm who and what you really are. Georger has been doing a very fine job of exposing the real you -- who and what you really are. He did it months ago -- years ago, even, and continues to do it today. I'm just a member of the supporting cast. My contributions only help to confirm the research that has already been done about you. I've helped drive home my utter disdain for the arrogance, selfishness, and narcissism that you and Jo have demonstrated here. When I heard you and Jo hog more than 50% of the air time here, well, I got real pissed. Why do you two see fit to do it? I can't for the life of me figure that one out. It's amazing when you consider that both of you are so logically incoherent and inconsistent in the premise/conclusion development of your long-winded ramblings. Neither of you have proven anything with all the air time you take up. You both go on and on and on .... I still think you both should join that 12-step program for people addicted to compulsive talking - it's called on-and-on anon. You're wrong, I've made a significant contribution lately. MeyerLouie

Georger - When was the last time U spoke to the FBI in WA and OR? When was the last time U spoke to the Forestry of either state? Definitely I did NOT present thing properly and it has taken 17 yr to get someone to really hear me. Perhap you need to put your ear to the ground and listen to what is going on. JO has been very connected to reality and this thread was a complete waste of my time. The truth was right infront all of you for 17 yrs. Just Wait and See! The only one who was on the right track was U Georger and U got lost in all of the crap just like I did. Maybe U knew, but was NOT privey to all that was really going on. U Think? Shutter and Meyer did NOT really help this case. It took an outsider with new information based on real research to do that. Surprisingly this thread was told certain information very early on and I wrote about it, but I was ignored, but others who think out of the box - have more than likely solved this case. There are those on this thread who only tried to deflect me from my very first theory. A theory based only on what Weber told me - but, there have been eyes and ears on this thread. Yet, the answer was not in the thread and none of U guys solved this case. Smile Georger, U may have been the only one even CLOSE! Do U even remember a theory you presented that was Dissed right off the bat. That theory followed some leads in this case that may have just solved the case, because NO one thought IT was possible! Who would have thought the answer was so simple and if the FBI had listened to me (really have listened to me and have dug deeper into the past of Weber) this case could have been solve yrs ago. Cooper might even have been caught while he was still alive - had the FBI listened to what they thought were off the wal prankster or just someone wanting attention. If the FBI had listened to some witnesses who came forward in 1971 and 1972. THis case would have been solve and Cooper would probably have died in prison. __________________________________________________ Oh, so you've actually solved the case now. You say "just wait and see." So, you continue to tease us. Instead of playing these stupid games, Jo, come clean with what you've got --which has been pretty much zero these past 17 years. Here's the score: No Evidence: 1, Jo: 0. I think you've used this little tactic before -- I'm getting a deja vue. I know...you and Blevins -- the over 50%-ers, the FBI trash-talkers, the no-evidence producers -- think it's been the FBI's fault all along.Quote MeyerLouie

I haven't the slightest interest in whether or not people who post here or read here like me or agree with me. And this thread isn't the DB Blevins thread. It's supposed to be about that guy...who is he again?...oh, yeah. The hijacker guy. Stop driving up my booksales. Which is what you do when you discuss moir all the time. Or don't you realize when you keep coming down hard on someone...that outsiders sometimes start wondering what all the fuss is about? And then they drop by our website. Or Google, then the website. Then they go to Amazon. One day this week only, I made the book a freebie at Amazon. It went to #1 in the true crime category within hours, at least for the day. Hundreds of copies were downloaded. From emails I get, I can tell most of the people who do that often came from Dropzone first. Back to Cooper anytime you wish... Georger and MeyerLouie: Your comments are obviously having the opposite effect you intended, wouldn't you say? So unless you really enjoy lining my pockets (you see, they don't just pick up the COOPER book...there are OTHERS once they get to Amazon)...you should probably quit your smart-ass comments. All you are doing is increasing our bottom line. And I don't need marketing agents via Dropzone. You've done well, but maybe you should give it a rest. Cooper, please.

I haven't the slightest interest in whether or not people who post here or read here like me or agree with me. And this thread isn't the DB Blevins thread. It's supposed to be about that guy...who is he again?...oh, yeah. The hijacker guy. Stop driving up my booksales. Which is what you do when you discuss moir all the time. Or don't you realize when you keep coming down hard on someone...that outsiders sometimes start wondering what all the fuss is about? And then they drop by our website. Or Google, then the website. Then they go to Amazon. One day this week only, I made the book a freebie at Amazon. It went to #1 in the true crime category within hours, at least for the day. Hundreds of copies were downloaded. From emails I get, I can tell most of the people who do that often came from Dropzone first. Back to Cooper anytime you wish... Georger and MeyerLouie: Your comments are obviously having the opposite effect you intended, wouldn't you say? So unless you really enjoy lining my pockets (you see, they don't just pick up the COOPER book...there are OTHERS once they get to Amazon)...you should probably quit your smart-ass comments. All you are doing is increasing our bottom line. And I don't need marketing agents via Dropzone. You've done well, but maybe you should give it a rest. Cooper, please.

Robert comments: I am not a troll. I don't have a relationship with Geoff Gray, and according to him, he NEVER said the things you attributed to him regarding me. And who the hell is Mike Simmons? For the record, sir...THIS is the extent of my so-called relationship with Geoff Gray: (anything else is a product of your own mind, which is a fancy way of saying something else) 1) During the research phase, when Gray was creating his book, I had no contact with him. Because both Gray and Skipp Porteous were researching the same suspect (Christiansen), Porteous cut Gray from the information loop. Since I didn't live in New York, and had no way of contacting Gray, I was not made aware of this. 2) Into The Blast is released. Gray's book, which was due to be released that same spring, is suddenly pulled from the Crown Books upcoming titles list. I have no idea why this is, but I was disappointed, as I wanted to read it. 3) Gray's book is released that fall and I read it for the first time. I realize right away he doesn't know everything that Porteous and I know about Kenny Christiansen. I contact Porteous about it. Porteous admits he kept Gray out of the information loop regarding our investigation into Christiansen. 4) I am not happy about this because in my search for the truth on Christiansen, my choice would have been to provide Geoff Gray with everything we have on Kenny in order to make his book either more accurate, or perhaps to put some pieces of the puzzle into place. 5) Gray goes on a book tour with a stop at Third Place Books in Seattle. I take a copy of Blast with me to the event, along with a flash drive containing every single document, picture, and other evidence that was on the computers of Adventure Books regarding Christiansen. 6) Gray does a nice reading at Third Place Books. Afterward, I purchase another copy of Skyjack and Gray signs it. I sign a copy of Blast and give it to him. He invites me, former FBI agent Furhman (sic), and three other people to a sports bar next door to the bookstore. Gray buys everyone a beer and we sit around for about two hours discussing the case. 7) This is also when I drop my theory on the Tena Bar money on Furhman ('how did three or more bundles end up in the exact same spot with nothing else found'), who agrees the FBI never considered that a factor, although he says it makes sense. I give Gray the flash drive and tell him if he needs anything else, or has any questions about the files, I will be happy to provide that to him. He thanks me. 8) Over the next two years or so, I exchange maybe three emails with Gray. Mostly they are about the event in Portland. I tell him I won't be going because I don't have anything to add beyond Blast, and I don't want to listen to any more from Marla Cooper. The truth is I probably wouldn't have been able to make it to Portland and then back up to Ariel on the same day due to my work schedule. In any case, I go to Ariel but not to Portland. 9) Later, YOU (Georger) claim that Geoff Gray told you I was unstable, mentally unbalanced, etc. I knew this wasn't true, but I let it go for a while while you rambled on about it in posts. 10) Finally, I take some of your quotes that you attributed to Gray and send them to him in an email, using his link at his website. He comes back with an answer a week later: HE SAYS HE NEVER SAID THOSE THINGS. In my analysis, it's case closed. Since I only had personal contact with Gray the one time and just a few emails over a period of years with him, I knew your claims were bulls$%t anyway. Your pride however...forces you to continue perpetuating that lie. That is a personal problem on your part, and I think you are the one who needs help. Although, since I don't know you personally (just what I've read in Gray's book, and your posts here) I hesitate to say exactly WHAT help you require. I am reticent to post up Gray's email publicly, but if you'd like to see it yourself, free up your PM function or give it a rest. I like Gray and I have no wish to embarrass him, and I am not big on re-posting emails on people unless there is a VERY good reason for it. In this case, your BS on this isn't enough for me to do that. I have to balance out Gray's privacy on his emails with your false claims. Trust me, I've been tempted to say the hell with it more than once and post that email at Dropzone, but I won't. You want to see it yourself? You'll have to make it possible. I'm not embarrassing Gray just because you have a problem. There is a lesson here, but I doubt you'll figure it out on your own: Don't shove words into other peoples' mouths, especially if they are potentially slanderous. Someone might actually check with the source. To Everyone Else: My apologies for the length of the post, but I was tired of Georger flogging his 'Geoff Gray Said This About You' garbage, which I consider to be more of THIS. Maybe he will finally 'get it' and we can move on? __________________________________________________ Hey Blevins: Only 18 paragraphs here on your reply. Normal people would have only needed 2 or 3, but not you -- you just can't help yourself, can you? Instead of apologizing for the long posts, why not just quit doing it? You apologize for something, but you keep on doing it -- well, that's so disingenuous and so insincere. Where do you get off, dude, doing something like that? There are other people here beside you. ....In any event, you still have a good 10 paragraphs to go if you and Jo are going to make your 25% quota today. MeyerLouie

Jo wrote: NOTE the ones that NEEDLE the most are late comers? __________________________________________________ Oh, we're "late-comers" now. Rookies, newbies, little squirts, now late-comers. Just keep the derogatory labels coming, Jo. I tried to be your friend, but I don't take kindly to being insulted. MeyerLouie __________________________________________________ Blevins like myself is NOT a troll. YES he was wrong to use the thread to promote his book but is trying to do the right things. We might need to remind him once in awhile (he has made some productive post and he does live in Wa.) He is interested in the subject and he is willing and able to do things U and others in the thread cannot do. __________________________________________________ Now Blevins is your buddy -- he's no longer a troll, he's now productive and eager to make a lasting mark. A couple of weeks ago you were trash-talking him right off the forum. What changed your mind, Jo? I guess you two have something in common now -- you have both collaborated to produce the "Over 50% Club." Very touching..... MeyerLouie _________________________________________________ There are some in this thread who claim to know all but when it comes down to their producing evidence of this abililty or knowledge - NOTE - they change the subject or attack others - anything they can do to divert divert divert. Some gn this thread claim to want to help or to have knowledge about this or that - but NEVER produce ONE iota of analytical or constructive research. THEY just attack and belittle what others have done. I won't name names because they know who they are! __________________________________________________ Hmmm, I wonder who you might be referring to, Jo??..... You post over 28% of the total posts here -- rambling on and on, paragraph after paragraph, year after year -- so what hard evidence have you produced? About as much as this newbie, this rookie, this little squirt, this newcomer. The FBI operates on a little ol' thing called hard evidence. I bet if you actually give them some, they might be more apt to listen to you. MeyerLouie

" _________________________________________________ Okay Blevins, I'm going off topic. You have quoted Elvis. My question: Are you quoting the young, energetic, vivacious Elvis, or are you quoting the old, fat, drug-addicted Elvis? MeyerLouie I don't see where my signature for posts has to do with anything regarding the Cooper case. __________________________________________________ Actually it does Blevins -- look at your quote, look at how you conduct yourself on this forum, then look for the underlying meaning that I was intending. I wasn't trying to bait you. There'll be a quiz later. MeyerLouie

Blevins said: "...but you'd only whine about going off-topic regarding Cooper, and call it political. " _________________________________________________ Okay Blevins, I'm going off topic. You have quoted Elvis. My question: Are you quoting the young, energetic, vivacious Elvis, or are you quoting the old, fat, drug-addicted Elvis? MeyerLouie

Jo wrote: QuoteThank You Robert Blevins for how well you handle that and hopefully helped some of these young squirt understand what I was trying to say. __________________________________________________ So far, Jo, you have had interesting names for guys who haven't been around here as long as you have. You've manged to call us "rookies," "newbies," "young squirts", and other names. How about "green horn"? That's a good one for anyone who ever done any fishing on a boat out of Dutch Harbor, Alaska (that's what they called me when I did that). I have found your labels to be a bit condescending. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that being around here for years doesn't automatically mean one has made a lot of progress or one knows everything there is to know about the case or one has the unwritten right to take up 28% of the air time here. Maybe I'm wrong -- maybe there's a pecking order here based on seniority. If so, what, oh Wise Elder, must I do to become "Cooper Royalty"? I thirst for knowledge and wisdom. MeyerLouie

_________________________________________________ So, let me see if I've got this straight. The two people who post up over 50% of the posts here are now pattin' each other on the back and even repeating the other's posts -- as if they don't already take up enough air time here already. It's isn't enough to just hog the show, now one sees fit to repeat, verbatim, the other's post -- for no other reason that to do just that -- repeat it. Amazing! MeyerLouie

Jo wrote: ....I am the only reason a movie was NOT done in 2004 - I chose to continue my search until I felt confident about what I did know and to learn more.... I have never followed an outline forf anything in my life. It is my down-fall and my life is spontaneous....but orderly within my mind. At 73 yrs of age that is NOT going to change! If someone here wants to start an out line - then with the information I have provide it could be done, but NOT by me. __________________________________________________ Therein lies your problem, Jo. You've stated very clearly the vicious cycle you are in. Maybe it's time to start an outline and try to get your thoughts and research in some kind of order. You want someone to do the oultine for you (I'll believe that one when I see it), you want the forum to solve your problems and follow-up on your research, but I don't think it's going to happen, Jo. That's your job, no one else's. MeyerLouie

Jo wrote: Well, U guys have gone every which way but right - so why not give this one a try? _________________________________________________ Is this one of your "assignments" Jo? If I don't follow up and do some digging and research it as you think it ought to be researched, will you start yelling? Here's another possibility: why don't you research it -- check the train schedules around Portland and Vancouver on 11/24/71, then get back to us. MeyerLouie

Well put ML. Blevins post was the same as about a jillion other posts he has made to this thread. Robert99 I'm not sure what 'case' MeyerLouie refers to by quoting my post. That was MY case for what has been going on here, not his. Unless he agrees with it, then I can understand his comment. Otherwise, no. And contrary to your opinion, Robert99, that post was more comprehensive on the subject and not like a 'zillion' others. The truth is...MeyerLouie had nothing to say about it because he probably had no legitimate response.... In fact, I don't even care about Cooper today. I have other things on my mind. _________________________________________________ Blevins: You are probably the only one then who doesn't understand what I mean by my "case" -- my case aganst you and your 25% quota of posts you find necessary to post up here. I'm suprised Blevins, you usually go 10-15 paragraphs, 2 or 3 pages per rabid response. You're under quota, Buster, better get on it.... So if you don't care about Cooper anymore, does that mean you're going to throw a going-away party? Will you be riding off into the sunset or will you be going out in a blaze of glory? Enquiring minds want to know, Blevins. I've been so upset over all of this squabbling with you, Blevins, I did something out of the ordinary. You guessed it.... I went back to my psychic (you were the inspiration for it, you know). My psychic tells me she sees you and Jo playing a game of poker. She says she can hear you saying, "I see your 20 posts Jo, and I raise you 10 posts...." Let us know how it all turns out. MeyerLouie

Robert replies: In case you haven't noticed lately, one of the reasons the percentages of 'who posts' are higher is because less people are participating. And you are wrong about my contributions to this thread, although like everyone else around here, I have occasionally gone off topic. What have I contributed? Well...I'm the first one around here who got an outside (non-media) interview with Marla Cooper, for example. It was published both here at DZ and at Newsvine. Made a reasonably nice video on last year's Ariel celebration. One which YOU participated in heavily. I researched out more than thirty articles from media sources and quoted from many of them to demonstrate the FBI's flaws in handling the investigation on the chute found in Amboy. I spent six months correcting small errors and contacting people (for final verification of their testimony) to create the report we sent the Seattle FBI on Kenny Christiansen. This included the scanning and blowing up of more than sixteen separate images and documents, most of which have been seen here. Then I released a public version of the report on our website, on Dropzone, as well as Facebook and Twitter. Amazingly, almost nobody asked specific questions about points it made. They simply dismissed it, mostly with poor manners. But that was only on this thread. I get emails with questions on it all the time. I did heavy research on one Bernard Wayne Geestman, proving beyond a reasonable doubt that he has repeatedly lied about his friendship with Kenny Christiansen, as well as involvement in Christiansen's post-hijacking-date finances. I continue to make the book available free for the Amazon Kindle from time to time, mostly in a hope that someone, somewhere will know something and come forward. Not to somehow 'prove' KC was Cooper, but to find out the full truth about him one way or another. Or...to familiarize them with the case on the chance they will know something important that might help solve the case. To date, I have allowed more than 6,000 free copies to go out. If I were being paid for those copies, it would total more than $12,000. I also declined the $2,500 from History Channel and another $1,000 from Comcast Sports via Adrenaline Hunter. This proves without a doubt that my interest in the case is NOT about greed, or money, but the truth. One thing I have NOT done: Claimed that I was absolutely sure KC was the hijacker. I just presented the available evidence, which was basically ignored on this thread even though I provided contact information on most of the witnesses. I did a three-part article (illustrated) on Cooperland in general. And even though some people here resented a few of the implications presented in that article, I saw it as the truth. Those are just some of the contributions that you offhandedly call 'irrelevant, outlandish, and ridiculous in premise and conclusion...'. Google Analytics tells me that many people view this thread as a result of clicking on a link at our website, or from articles I've done where this thread is linked into the article. Most probably don't want to discuss the case, but just see what's being said. When they see insults and fighting, they probably go elsewhere. In reality, I draw a lot of people to this thread, at least to read it. Meanwhile...(back at the ranch)...every time I posted up anything, no matter how Cooper-related, both you (to a smaller extent) and Georger (really BIG extent) busied yourselves with insult-laden responses while mostly ignoring the issues. Before you try to dodge that one, go back and examine Georger's last fifty replies to anything I have posted that is Cooper-related. It is not I who has driven people away (possible exception of Marla Cooper) but you and Georger. In fact, it was only a week or so before when Georger went so far over the top that he spoke of taking a self-imposed vacation. Few people here believe in working together toward a common goal, i.e the truth regarding Cooper. These folks have personal issues against other posters that really have nothing to do with the Cooper case. Some think they are smarter than everyone else, or that everyone else except themselves is dumb. I never assume this about people. In fact, even when Georger has been at his worst, when he makes a good point I say so. Not only that, but occasionally I post that he's made excellent contributions to the case, even when he insults me. I also try not to respond with insults, although I have occasionally failed on this one. But I do try. No one here is better than anyone else. Everyone has a right to post as long as they obey forum rules. I don't make the rules. I don't own the website. I try to bring up KC only when I feel it is necessary, or someone asks a question. I am not afraid to state my opinion on a theory. Like BK, for example. Frankly, I think he needs help and I don't believe a single word of his story. Not one word. No one person is to blame for the existence of any problems, or any drop in traffic to the thread. That responsibility must be shared by anyone who has put personalities and emotional issues before the study of the case. There is no single 'scapegoat' here. It was a community effort all the way. ________________________________________________ I rest my case.............. MeyerLouie

Jo wrote: ALSO what I don't need is jerks claiming they want to help, but when I give them an assignment - they quickly forget it or never reply. One example is map of an area I ask and the poster volunteered to help me find regarding the tower. I have SEEN NO maps other than my giving the boundary line of the area I need OLD maps of and information about a certain towers and one old lookout. __________________________________________________ I'm still working on the maps Jo. I wasn't aware we were getting "assignments" from you. MeyerLouie

Blevins said: MeyerLouie: You are whining. Both you and Georger must share responsibility for driving posters away. Don't you think viewers want to hear from everyone? The Cooper case is not solved, and things presented DO need to be challenged. It's the only way you'll ever get to the truth. ....Driving off people makes more space available, of course.... _________________________________________________ You, Blevins, take up almost 25% of the time here (so much of your stuff is irrelevant, outlandish, and ridiculous in premise and conclusion), and you have the audacity to say Georger and I are the problem. Not only that, you and somebody else are hogging more than 50% of the forum time here (quantity, not quality). Now that's what's really driving people away. If you two were experts, credible, and confident in your statements and conclusions, then I wouldn't mind the millions of paragraphs that you both produce. But that ain't what's happenin'. I always find it amazing you do a wholesale reply to everybody -- Georger, Robert99, Me, and others.... making sure to reply to each one in a single post. No one else does that, or has to do that, Venom Magnet. You're making a total ass of yourself. First time in your life you've had this much attention -- is that it? MeyerLouie