Deathray

I have no clue, I did a search and read that there was a million dollars from the FBI and some attorney from Eugene was offering 25K. One that I am absolutely certain of, there are people here occupying this thread that are not investigators, they are propagandist. That should be obvious since all they do is smear and investigate none of my claims. The psychic aspect is completely irrelevant and I only mentioned that because it helps me see through lies a bit better perhaps. Notice how the counter intel creeps completely focus on that and then ignore the things that could be validated? I'm done posting here and if you really are investigating this mystery, you are advised to do the same.

First, I could have cared less about the DB Cooper story then and quite frankly don't now. Why would I bother to investigate anything? All I have is my own experience in the matter. The extent of the investigation? Today I spent half an hour reading a wiki article and looking at some photos here: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/photo/album/d-b-cooper-suspect The photo of the old jogger is the closest body shape. He had a dark tan complexion like someone from Arizona and was taller than me so he was about 6' 1" He was wearing a ball cap and I don't recall anything like hair or eye color but had no intention of ratting him out. As far as reward money back then, it never occurred to me then and would not have since I agreed to keep his identity a secret. Now that he is surely dead, it really does not matter. I don't have book to sell nor have I read one about Cooper, I obviously have done no research into this and would never do a TV interview. Where is my motive? There is not one. These days I would just like the money but would want to stay anonymous. Lastly, I could easily ID him since we had a mutual friend at the time. There are clearly people here doing counter intel. It took me 1 day to figure that out. If I was looking for a sincere person researching this, they would have already come to the conclusion Cooper was being shielded from arrest. Lastly, anyone with a pilots license would suspect that flight path to be a lie. How convenient that a 727 made a series of turns to place the money upstream of where he really landed. Anyone with a pilots license knows that back then, an airline would have used VOR navigation, flown directly over the Battleground VOR station near Vancouver Lake and probably crossed PDX mid-field. So for all of you that are not spies, it took me one day to figure out that the government does not want the case solved. IMO, it is the investigators that need to be investigated. COPS have a saying, they always go home when they are in trouble. I suspect DB cooper would have a Columbia as a escape barrier and that is why he planned to jump into Portland. The man I met, lived in Vancouver WA at the time.

Orange - think about this. Deathray was only 10 yrs old in 1971. He claims to know who Cooper was and yet never did enough research to get the facts about the crime. He creates his own version. I first talked to this man many many yrs ago and did not recontact him until he showed up in the thread. My recent contact with him provided no more substance than the first contact. Nothing has changed. Not one iota....The 40th comes around and he replays old stuff. I contacted Deathray yrs ago - do not know why or when. I had to contact a local business to get his number - so it was WAY before I learned to do that on the computer. The reason I contacted him was his close proximity to where Weber was living in 1969 to 1977. Thought there might be something to it - but found only what he was posted and what you guys have seen and read. Nothing to bite into. Not then and not now. Every aspect of his post is a lie. Nobody has ever contacted me regarding this. And for the record, I did contact the FBI right away and I posted that in the first post. Who are these people that are doing all this counter intl and why? Here is why I don't think the US wants this case solved: Deathray wrote: '1. Where do you think DB Cooper learned to rig the tailgate of a 727? He did disclose that to me. Do you think if you knew that, you might think an agency way above the FBI would see solving this crime as a national security problem? Because it would IMO.' 377 replied: This information was already available LONG before the hijacking. Boeing did tests on the 727, flying it with the stairs down in flight before it was released, to see if it changed the flight characteristics. These tests were discussed by Boeing employees working on the project, and known to them. Deathray wrote: Another plausible explanation would be the one he gave me. He worked for Air America flying covert missions between Thailand and Viet Nam dropping Special Forces from civilian looking airlines over Cambodia and Laos during the Viet Nam war. The mission was to mine the Ho Chi Min trail and public knowledge. A criminal case would have made it official. Since the US did not declare war on those countries, the CIA would be liable for war crimes and crimes against humanity since there was no declaration or war powers act for protection. 200 people a month lose limbs to this day stepping on those mines. Those are just the ones that survive. That is my suspicion why they don’t solve the hijacking. Two countries refused to ban land mines. The US and North Korea. The titanium particles on the tie are because he would pose as a flight attendant and was out on the runways being hit by jet blast and the close tolerance military jet fans are made of titanium. The tie if a photo is available, would probably match a military tie or an airline tie of the time. Clip on ties were used by the military and airlines because they come off easy in the event of an emergency to prevent choking.

Piss off idiot. Why don't you call the Billings montana FBI and ask them if I talked to one of their agents in an attempt to stop a cremation yesterday and offered to trade the DB Cooper info.? As far as DB cooper anniversary of this Marla story, I just found out about that 2 minutes ago. While you are at it, ask them if my sister was found dead in her pickup. Do you really think that in the middle of all that sorrow I would decide to play "Hey everybody, I found DB Cooper." Then.. Since people know me like Teddy Mayfield, ask Ted if I talked to him about it in 1992. I have told lots of people the story. In fact, Ralph Himmelsbach would or could get a pen log for his own phone for that time and verify that I called him then. You see Robert, I always can support anything I write because unlike you, I am not a magical thinking idiot. Oh yeah, here is another reference, the lawyer that I gave that paper to in downtown Portland. Here is one more dickhead. The lawyer I lived with near Vancouver lake. Why was she so interested in me? Simple, I was a computer tech and when I was in her office working, we were talking and she had heard I was a psychic. So she asked me for a prediction. I told her the date, magnitude and number of people killed in the Kobe Japan Earthquake 2 weeks in advance. I would have probably also told her the DB cooper story. Her name is Karen and I can back up anything I write.

Is her name Marla or Maria? DB Cooper's drinking buddy had a son and he married a cute girl name Maria as I recall. She would have been 17 in 1992. She had black hair, she was about 5 feet tall and very petite. She had one child that I know of and she was a motivated girl with a plan. Anybody got a pic of her? If it is the same person, I know her last name and where she is from. They all lived together at the time.

Did I hurt your poor widdow feelings? I am so sorry. I'll try to be nice just this once. Now dry those tears and pay attention. I have not disclosed the whole story which is the part you can't seem to to comprehend or remember so let's try this: I'll ask questions and all you really smart polite people that have done all this research can answer them. You obviously studied for this test: 1. Where do you think DB Cooper learned to rig the tailgate of a 727? He did disclose that to me. Do you think if you knew that, you might think an agency way above the FBI would see solving this crime as a national security problem? Because it would IMO. 2. How did DB Cooper know that the reserve he took had DUMMY written on it in 1992? Was he a psychic trying to insult 377 30 years in the future? If memory serves me, there was something else unusual about that reserve, that was not disclosed in the wiki article. 3. Why did his face match the composite drawing right down to the deformed eye. As I vaguely recall, it was his right eye, not his left eye as the wanted poster suggests at the wiki article. 4. If I am just making all this stuff up, how could I possibly get a reward or profit knowing that the paper he gave me has his DNA and fingerprints and can probably be retrieved. 5. Why would I need the FBI to do a quick investigation on something to verify or dismiss this. Could it be because I don't have access to something or someplace? 6. The wiki article claims DB cooper requested 2 complete rigs but Ted told me it was either 6 or 7 that were supplied. Why the difference in numbers? Who is not telling the truth? 7. Do you think it is possible that this thread is crawling with people doing counter intel using a tactic called poisoning the well? 377 claims he took advanced quantum science classes. Yet claims an EE with stellar fuse changing and CB radio skills. Of course a useless degree in quantum science with made up math isn't going to be useful for any more than that. And lastly, I could care less if I get "expelled". It is a useless place to discuss this if you really were serious about solving this case. 1274 pointless pages speaks for themselves or suggest an over funded intel budget. If you could answer those questions properly, you might drop all those silly theories you have developed over the last 30 years if you really are a researcher. Rather than examine the facts, emotions control your mind, rendering it useless for the purpose of puzzle solving. Not one person talked to Ted and posted the information he would know about those parachutes from the color to the quantity. Notice how they bury anything that would raise an eyebrow under petty rants about psychics. Notice how they rationalize rather than investigate and critically think? I don't need you to do anything for me because there is a good chance they are not going to allow this to be solved on purpose. Enjoy you day. It's nappy time.

It was stupid to pull the plug, but that Papp engine was a total fraud. Papp was a cynical crook masquerading as a persecuted scientist. All perpetual motion machines of that ilk are a delusion or a scam. Glad you read about modern physics (Cern and C+) and think outside of the theoretical box. I am really surprised that Georger is able to restrain himself. I aced classic and quantum physics at a tough school but it was all that Newton and Einstein propaganda, so it doesn't count. No need to do dog and pony tricks for the Randi prize when you can get a Noble in a dignified manner. I don't like Feynman much (if his ego had mass, Earth would be a Black Hole) and I am an old jumper like you. Since we have so much in common why keep fighting? Peace brother and Blue Skys. 377 The Rhoner bothers worked with Papp and reconstructed the engine years ago. Once again you have no clue and sit your ass squarely on my silver platter.. Anyone hungry for a plate of stupid? http://www.rohnerengineering.com/ http://www.pappengine.com/videos.htm Don't you ever get tired of getting your ass handed to you? You can only lose your credibility once if you have any integrity. BTW - If you were so smart, why did you spend all that money taking quantum science classes? Did you really think it was OK to re-normalize the plank length in the vector mathematics of quantum science. Sorry dude, you are need to understand fractal geometry and have long conversations with higher beings not from this dimension of time. Maybe that is why we can only find 4% of the light in the universe or why the zero point ( 10 [sub]-93[/sub] ) would pull the known universe into a 10cm cube. I can explain the double slip experiment empirically but then that was done back around 1920 or so... Next time you decide to waste money on worthless college courses, ask one of the smart kids first. Nothing good comes from pissing Deathray off. Catch me if you can, I'm the gingerbread man.

I could not give a rats ass what their day job is. If they treat me with disrespect, they shall reap what they sow. Controlled experiments are hardly outside of what I do. If you did your research, you would see how for a decade I have been using terms like suoerluminal to indicate faster than the speed of light. I seem to recall CERN catching up with me a few weeks ago and it being independently validated but not widely publicized a week ago. Aharonov Bohm effect and acceleration are the toys I play with on my bench. I blew Planks constant and special relativity away a decade ago along with the first two laws of thermodynamics. BTW - The brain of a psychic uses aharonov Bohm effect to communicate instantly anywhere in the universe without propagation delay with tiny amounts of energy. It is a creation event according to Richard Feynman and Mandelbrot in a PBS special. Seems Feynman lost his religion just before he died but then he pulled the plug on a Papp engine and killed a man years before. I am guessing most of that that is a bit over your head? Every word I wrote is what I observed or what I experienced or what I was told. The only part I question is where the parachutes came from. After ~20 years, I am foggy on what Ted told me about where but I recall him talking about the FBI going to a DZ up by Seattle and they either didn't have enough, the right kind or something like that and I think Ted said that some of or all the gear used came from him. Could be that Ted was jumping up there then or his friend told him but Ted knew things that were not public and the guy claiming to be DB cooper said something that made me laugh about what was written on a parachute reserve belly wart. The DB I met matched the poster with the eye deformity, was not lying and all the details he gave until I asked him his name. His pause before saying the name was because I knew a friend of his and he had a choice, if he lied and I verified that than nothing he said had meaning. He had a few beers and I bruised his ego when I growled at him so he impulsively reacted and disclosed who he was and gave me that piece of paper. Why did he have the paper hidden behind the lining of his wallet if he was not the real deal? If others did their research or had critical thinking skills they would do few fact checks of their own. They would have also solved this mystery long ago because I know for a fact I am not the only one he told. I am not a liar and I am hardly an idiot. All I have is what I was told by him, what I was given by him and what I observed. If people treat me with disrespect, I will feed it back to them in spades and then I will dismiss them forever.. 377 is not willing to fact check what I did write. He wants to fact check what he wrongly assumes I can't or will not online. OK That being said, I am recanting an event that happened 20 years ago and I took the time just now in the middle of writing this to read a Wiki article on the subject and just learned something has been disclosed that I did not realize had. The thing that I wrote about that was funny was "DUMMY" was written on the reserve and ted told me that. Ted told me more but I am not disclosing anything that is not known or would solve the case casue I want the money. I just read this in the wiki article: "Furthermore, from the two reserve parachutes given him, Cooper selected a "dummy" — an unusable unit with an inoperative ripcord intended for classroom demonstrations,[42] despite the fact that it had clear markings identifying it to any experienced skydiver as non-functional." ************* GET THIS*********** The thing that made me laugh when DB cooper was telling me about this is that he took a parachute that had dummy written on it. Go back and read my first post. I suppose if you looked at my ip address and checked what pages I have accessed in wiki, you would see that I have never been there until just now. I have not researched this and really could not care less. Now you can do your homework and figure out how DB knew one of those parachutes had dummy written on it back in 1992 ... The FBI is fully capable of checking the wiki pages I have accessed and when that information was made public. I don't think wiki existed in 1992 or that had been disclosed because Ted told me not to disclose that and I didn't.... I used to have a secret clearance and I keep the secrets I agree to keep. Think about that. I am done you.

So typical. You ask a self proclsimed "gifted psychic" to do a controlled experiment and they get all huffy. Yawn. Nobody called you a liar or crazy. 377 OK, I am going to respond to this one last time and then I am going to ignore your ass for now at least. It is not something I do. I comes through me, not from me. When it happens or why I have no idea. You assume [your magical thought] that I am able to do dog tricks on demand or would even lower myself to that. Wrong. But I could do this. I could give you the name of a DZ owner I worked for that will probably remember me telling him you are going to have a bounce and a plane crash in the next month. I spotted the bounce in the plane. Took the plane back to the hanger, removed the student rig and was able to deploy the rig with just ounces of pull on the static line. She was the one that would have died and that saved her life and probably the DZ. Next, you would ask him if he had a pilot quit a few weeks before his last plane crash and if that person told him it was going to happen. Next you would ask him, did you upgrade your student gear right after that? You are going to get three answers that back up what I am said. I could provide a lifetime of these examples but this is someone that knows me and is a skydiver.. The psychic part is unimportant and not at all related except that I am able to spot liars who tend to lack thought integrity such as yourself. Is that enough of a controlled experiment asshole? Wait... I avoid people that lack integrity like the plague. People that have been around skydiving for 20 years in this part of the country know exactly who I am and know that about me. While you are talking to Ted if you ever decide to fact check what I wrote, get Betty's number and ask her if she remembers she and I standing next to Redneck's pickup during the 92 or 93 boogie and me telling her that she would have a bounce in September. The bounce was named David Skuzeskie and he bounced that Sept.

I am not all about appearances and I am an old jumper. If you could critically think, you would know that one of Ted's jumpers appearing credible would be akin to an oxymoron. As far as where the rigs the FBI used, like I said it was nearly 20 years and that part of the story was unimportant to me at the time. Ted knew about the parachutes and I left a clue for the FBI that would validate that. Ted is home. Call him and ask him about the parachutes. If he tells you the same story he told me, don't expose the parts that the FBI does not want public. As far as amazing randi and other stupid comments, I am going to ignore them. All it does is bury the only credible information that can either be validated or not through a quick investigation. I am willing to back up anything I wrote and I can fill in the blanks with what he told me. You assume you know what you don't what you don't know. It is the same magical thinking that prevented the FBI from investigating this on no less than four occasions now.

No way. If Ted had any FBI contact while Cooper was in the plane making his chute demands then Ted couldnt be Cooper. Why then did he call FBI agent Ralph Himmelsbach when the hijack news broke offering an alibi to prove he couldn't be Cooper? Are you pursuing the James Randi prize? If not why not? 377 I am not sure what you are talking about in your rant but thanks for reminding me of the name of the person I talked to in Roseburg. It was Ralph Himmelsbach. As far as all those theories and this thread goes, I have not read any of it. How would you explain the sagging deformed area under the eye of the person I talked to claiming to be DB Cooper? If you are suggesting I am lying or crazy, piss off in advance.

Seriously Deathray, if you don't believe in magical thinking how can you believe that you are a psychic? If you are a psychic why do you need the FBIs help to ID Cooper? Are you aware that you can win a million dollars if you can prove that you are a psychic? So far not one person has succeeded. Could it be that a rigorous scientifically controlled experiment has something to do with that outcome? http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html Prove your claim, collect the million and come back here and tell us some more about your encounter at Sheridan. 377 I was not aware of that challenge. I told my mother exactly when and how she would die. The last thing she did is hand write me a letter, place it in her out basket and then died exactly how and when I said she would. They handed me the unopened letter they found after the funeral when we went to the house. About 10 people had to be standing there and I had a death certificate listing the cause of death in my pocket as we just came from Harborview in Seattle. Two months ago, I told my wife that my sister would die of a heart attack in two months. They found her in her car dead with a massive coronary on Nov. 28th. Do you really think in a million years I would post lies about stuff like this online if I could not back it up? Who I am could be figured out in five minutes. Don't post my name online. The FBI will be calling soon since only they know parts that I posted and that should provoke them to make contact with me. Sorry dude, unlike you, I value my credibility and I and I can support anything I write or it is what I experienced in person. As far as amazing Randy, you apparently can't recognize a propagandist from the truth.

Ted told me something about how the FBI tried to get the parachutes from Snohomish or someplace up near Seattle and they either didn't have enough or they would not part with them or they were not the kind demanded. Feel free to give him a call and ask and post the result. It has been about 18 years of so since he told me that story.

211 is a charm. You on the other hand are too stupid to recognize truth or even spell my name. There are many facts that could be verified if you only had the thought integrity to do that. Two things can't be cured, crazy and stupid. The difference between them is usually one wears a red vest and the other has a suck ass day job. Got day job?

Ted didnt supply the Cooper chutes. If you are talking about Ted Mayfield, his first contact with the FBI during the skyjack drama was a call with an alibi. He wasn't working with them while Cooper was in the 727 making demands. Your response? 377 Feel free to talk to Ted yourself. Ask him where the FBI got the parachutes. Ted is not one to lie unless he is caught flying an airplane illegally. :-) Teddy is my personal Jesus. Ralph is Satin.

I am pretty good at recognizing truth as well, and I see absolutely none of it in your "story". Parrot head, you have a bird brain.

This post is not a joke and I could prove about any aspect of it. I could solve the mystery of DB cooper.. I met him at Sheridan Oregon where I worked as a JM. I chewed him out for getting too close to a prop and told him "Over by the loft would be a good place for you." I felt bad for growling at him and landed right in front of him after the jump. I told him that people were making their first jump and the last thing I tell them is what they will remember so it is a critical time. Cooper asked me to talk to come talk to him for a minute so we stepped away from others and we did. He took out his wallet and behind the lining he had an old piece of paper folded up and said "Here, this is for you. I made a jump one time." I unfolded it and it was a photo copy of a newspaper article about DB cooper with two short paragraphs. I read it and said thanks and turned to walk away. He said "Look at the picture" which was a composite sketch and I said OK. Then I turned to walk away and he said "Look at the eye" I did and the next time I looked at him I noticed he had sagging skin under his eye just like the drawing. I said "No way..." and he said yep. Then he told me to keep it to myself. I said to him "Let me put my gear away and let's talk for a minute." He agreed and we sat down at a picnic table in front of the loft and I asked him to tell me the story and he told me the story in full. The follow is what he told me and I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am a very gifted psychic on top of that and he was not lying. People that know me know that about me. --------------------------------------------------------------- The following is SOME what he told me that day to the best of my recollection. I am going to leave out parts since there is probably some reward money still out there and I may pursue it since I am pretty broke these days: Some of the money had been found on the bank of the Columbia River and I asked him how it got there. DB Cooper stated "I was looking down and the sky was mostly cloudy and I saw what I thought were the lights of Portland and I planned to jump over Portland. I was wrong about the lights, they were the lights of Vancouver. The parachute was a round parachute not like the ones you jump these days. When I landed, I landed near the shore of Vancouver Lake. The bottom was mud and I was up to my knees in mud and up to my chest in cold water. The water was cold and I was cold from the jump and in the process of getting out of the gear I lost track of the money." When I asked him how the money got on to the bank of the Columbia River, DB stated “Vancouver Lake had been dredged years later and the mud had been piled on the Bank of the Columbia River nearby. I asked him how he learned how to rig the door of the plane and he also disclosed that. I interrogated him for about 15 minutes and he had a plausible answer on the tip of his tongue every time. When I asked him what name he goes by these days, there was a 3 second pause and then he gave me an answer. That was the first and only lie he told me. --------------------------------------------------------------- I checked to see if that dredging story was true about 4 years later when I lived near Vancouver Lake and the locals said it had been dredged. DB Cooper told me far more but if I revealed it, this case could be solved in 1 day and I would lose the reward. Soon after that first and only meeting with DB, I called the FBI and tried to negotiate surrender in exchange for his freedom since he was old and it had been so long. The FBI had me talk to the US Justice Dept. in Washington who gave me the retired FBI agent in charge of the investigation's home phone number in Roseburg Oregon. The US Justice Dept. was rude beyond belief and refused to discuss amnesty so I had no further use for them. I called the retired FBI agents phone and told him my story and shared SOME of what DB cooper had told me. The retired agent was not a good listener and had already decided he was dead even though there was no evidence of that. I have a complete disdain for magical thinkers and do not trust them as far as I throw them so I got off the phone. About a year later I gave the paper DB had given to me to a friend for safe keeping and told him the story while I watched him place it in a file folder and in one of his file drawers. That is the last I thought of it until today. My sister suddenly died and I wanted a quick investigation into her death since some papers she carried with her everywhere she went were missing. She was found dead in her car in the parking lot. The papers could be worth 5 million over 20 years if a person was to forge some signatures. Her body was to be cremated and I needed someone to stop that cremation if it had not happened yet to determine if there was foul play. I called the Billings PD and spoke to some of the dumbest humans I have ever tried to communicate with. (Clearly something in the water - no joke, it is all of them I talked to.) Then I had the idea of calling the Billings FBI office and tried to make a quick deal to stop that cremation if it had not happened yet. The FBI agent was no different than anyone else I spoke to in that brain dead town and claimed he did not have the power to ask for a short delay of a cremation for a few hours until someone could investigate a broken lock and missing papers on her apartment. I told him "If you are not going to help me, I am not going to help you." He replied "Good luck" and we hung up. So you see, it is no wonder they didn't solve this mystery. The magical thinking of belief and disbelief, entrenched in positions based in ego revealed complete madness even though I have offered the physical evidence (DNA and finger prints) Well the plot thickens here. Not only did the person that handed me that paper match the sketch in the newspaper article right down to the deformity under the eye, he told me about something written on one of the parachutes that made me laugh. Here is where the plot gets real thick. Since I worked for Ted at the DZ, I told him about it and he told me that he had supplied the FBI with around 7 parachutes and that there was something written on one of the parachutes. Ted told me to keep it to myself since only he and the FBI knew that and I did. The proof that it was DB cooper is that he could have not known that information written on one of the parachutes. He even knew the colors and Ted had mentioned that. A chill ran down my spine because I knew I had just talked to DB Cooper. Now if you were an FBI agent on this investigation, you could easily validate much of what I have just disclosed. Give me a huge reward [TAX EXEMPT as I don't trust the IRS, the FBI or any government agency) and 2 agents and I can solve this mystery in a single day. I have little doubt he is dead since he was an alcoholic and getting old at the time.

Not me, cause that would mean either he is dead or they catch who he is and then that takes the mystery away. This post is not a joke and I could prove about any aspect of it. I could solve the mystery of DB cooper.. I met him at Sheridan Oregon where I worked as a JM. I chewed him out for getting too close to a prop and told him "Over by the loft would be a good place for you." I felt bad for growling at him and landed right in front of him after the jump. He asked me to talk to him for a minute so I did. He took out his wallet and behind the lining he had an old piece of paper folded up and said "Here, this is for you. I made a jump one time." I unfolded it and it was a photo copy of a newspaper article about DB cooper with two short paragraphs. I read it and said thanks and turned to walk away. He said "Look at the picture" which was a composite sketch and I said OK. Then I turned to walk away and he said "Look at the eye" I did and the next time I looked at him I noticed he had sagging skin under his eye just like the drawing. I said "No way..." and he said yep. Then he told me to keep it to myself. I said to him "Let me put my gear away and let's talk for a minute." He agreed and we sat down at a picnic table in front of the loft and I asked him to tell me the story and he told me the story in full. The follow is what he told me and I have a fairly unique ability to recognize lies and truth. I am a very gifted psychic on top of that and he was not lying. People that know me know that about me. --------------------------------------------------------------- The following is SOME what he told me that day to the best of my recollection. I am going to leave out parts since there is probably some reward money still out there and I may pursue it since I am pretty broke these days: Some of the money had been found on the bank of the Columbia River and I asked him how it got there. DB Cooper stated "I was looking down and the sky was mostly cloudy and I saw what I thought were the lights of Portland and I planned to jump over Portland. I was wrong about the lights, they were the lights of Vancouver. The parachute was a round parachute not like the ones you jump these days. When I landed, I landed near the shore of Vancouver Lake. The bottom was mud and I was up to my knees in mud and up to my chest in cold water. The water was cold and I was cold from the jump and in the process of getting out of the gear I lost track of the money." When I asked him how the money got on to the bank of the Columbia River, DB stated “Vancouver Lake had been dredged years later and the mud had been piled on the Bank of the Columbia River nearby. I asked him how he learned how to rig the door of the plane and he also disclosed that. I interrogated him for about 15 minutes and he had a plausible answer on the tip of his tongue every time. When I asked him what name he goes by these days, there was a 3 second pause and then he gave me an answer. That was the first and only lie he told me. --------------------------------------------------------------- I checked to see if that dredging story was true about 4 years later when I lived near Vancouver Lake and the locals said it had been dredged. DB Cooper told me far more but if I revealed it, this case could be solved in 1 day and I would lose the reward. Soon after that first and only meeting with DB, I called the FBI and tried to negotiate surrender in exchange for his freedom since he was old and it had been so long. The FBI had me talk to the US Justice Dept. in Washington who gave me the retired FBI agent in charge of the investigation's home phone number in Roseburg Oregon. The US Justice Dept. was rude beyond belief and refused to discuss amnesty so I had no further use for them. I called the retired FBI agents phone and told him my story and shared SOME of what DB cooper had told me. The retired agent was not a good listener and had already decided he was dead even though there was no evidence of that. I have a complete disdain for magical thinkers and do not trust them as far as I throw them so I got off the phone. About a year later I gave the paper DB had given to me to a friend for safe keeping and told him the story while I watched him place it in a file folder and in one of his file drawers. That is the last I thought of it until today. My sister suddenly died and I wanted a quick investigation into her death since some papers she carried with her everywhere she went were missing. She was found dead in her car in the parking lot. The papers could be worth 5 million over 20 years if a person was to forge some signatures. Her body was to be cremated and I needed someone to stop that cremation if it had not happened yet to determine if there was foul play. I called the Billings PD and spoke to some of the dumbest humans I have ever tried to communicate with. (Clearly something in the water - no joke, it is all of them I talked to.) Then I had the idea of calling the Billings FBI office and tried to make a quick deal to stop that cremation if it had not happened yet. The FBI agent was no different than anyone else I spoke to in that brain dead town and claimed he did not have the power to ask for a short delay of a cremation for a few hours until someone could investigate a broken lock and missing papers on her apartment. I told him "If you are not going to help me, I am not going to help you." He replied "Good luck" and we hung up. So you see, it is no wonder they didn't solve this mystery. The magical thinking of belief and disbelief, entrenched in positions revealed complete madness even though I have offered the physical evidence (DNA and finger prints) Well the plot thickens here. Not only did the person that handed me that paper match the sketch in the newspaper article right down to the deformity under the eye, he told me about something written on one of the parachutes that made me laugh. Here is where the plot gets real thick. Since I worked for Ted at the DZ, I told him about it and he told me that he had supplied the FBI with around 7 parachutes and that there was something written on one of the parachutes. Ted told me to keep it to myself since only he and the FBI knew that and I did. The proof that it was DB cooper is that he could have not known that information written on one of the parachutes. He even knew the colors and Ted had mentioned that. A chill ran down my spine because I knew I had just talked to DB Cooper. Now if you were an FBI agent on this investigation, you could easily validate much of what I have just disclosed. Give me a huge reward [TAX EXEMPT as I don't trust the IRS, the FBI or any government agency) and 2 agents and I can solve this mystery in a single day. I have little doubt he is dead since he was an alcoholic and getting old at the time.