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If it's not then Medicare for all Will. AKA a National Health Service. Which should have happened in the first place.

Imagine if the bankers had all been black and did this to the minority whites. ...The Great Recession produced the largest setback in racial wealth equality in the United States over the last quarter century. In 2009 the average white household’s wealth was twenty times that of the average black household, nearly double that in previous years, according to a 2011 report by the Pew Research Center...

Do YOU KNOW that he didnt? How many did he shoot dead?

...CNN host Don Lemon is not apologizing for his extensive coverage of the Trayvon Martin case — especially to the many racists who have bombarded him with tweets due to the coverage. Lemon directed viewers this past Sunday to refrain from sending him incendiary tweets. "Please don't send me any more tweets that by having this conversation, I'm a racist or a race-baiter," he said. "This is a conversation we all need to have, so relax on that."...

Wrong thread there Sparky. Matt I thought this was the thread about racism. No, I think you're the only one trying to make it that. This is a thread about a shooting in Florida. At least, until none-facts, knee jerk reactions, and misapplied "logic", got introduced. Matt This is a thread about an unarmed black kid who was shot dead - and because he was black - his murder wasn't investigated properly. In fact it now appears that there was police collusion in letting the white killer go free. This case is all about racism.

Wrong thread there Sparky. Matt I thought this was the thread about racism.

...New legislation across the US could have a huge impact on the country's 2012 presidential elections. Largely Republican politicians have passed a range of new voting laws that groups fear could disenfranchise as many as five million American voters this year. Politicians claim that they are concerned about preventing voter fraud but minority communities see the civil rights gained in the 1960s as being under attack again in a subtler way. The department of justice has already made strong rulings against laws that have been passed in South Carolina and Texas because they discriminate against minorities...

...Analysis of the emergency phone call made just before the unarmed African American teenager Trayvon Martin was killed in Sanford, Florida, have cast further doubt on the story of George Zimmerman that he carried out the shooting in self-defence. Zimmerman has claimed that the voice screaming on the 911 call was his own. He told police that Martin attacked him, punched him to the ground and bashed his head against the pavement before Zimmerman pulled the trigger. But voice experts contacted by the Orlando Sentinel told the newspaper that in their opinion the screams were almost certainly not made by Zimmerman, but were more likely to have come from Martin...

It took the entire U.S. military complex TEN YEARS to grease that asshole. That in itself was a defeat. I shake my head every time I hear about someone talking about it with pride. Not proud about it, not saying it couldn't have happened a LOT quicker if other things hadn't side tracked us either, but the fact remains he's dead. We all end up dead mate. A lot more will end up dead when the big US/Iran war starts. This one will finish the Empire off for China to neatly take its place as top dog.

Nope. Not even close. The US went to the Afghanistan and Pakistan on a search and destroy mission against the terrorist organization, al-qaeda. If you'd like to know who won and who lost, I suggest you speak with Mr. bin Laden. The US holds no ill will against the non-terrorists of either country. I have no idea how you ever got the impression the US was at war with the countries mentioned, but it's simply untrue. Mr Laden was highly effective in his use of Shock and Awe. As a result a decade later the US is far weaker than it would have been if it hadn't been led into the Iraqi debacle. Now it's about to declare war on Iran on behalf of a nuclear armed Israel. Laden must be laughing in his grave. All he did was set the first domino going.

"Lost" isn't exactly how I'd ever put it. The US was never at war with Afghanistan. There was a war against a certain faction of people in Afghanistan and by all accounts those people are now either dead or dispersed. That issue being over, it's simply time for the US to leave. Not necessarily. Israel has stuck before and it didn't require the US to get involved. However, I can assure you that any action by Iran against Israel or US forces in the Gulf will be met with swift and certain retribution. If that requires the US entering into a war, then perhaps Iran should understand that before pulling the trigger. Lastly, you seem to think the US would be opposed to going to war in Iran. Let me assure you there is a very large faction of businesses and people in the US who would jump at the chance. In other words, your statement isn't any sort of threat -- it's more like an invitation to a party. The US went to war with Afghanistan/Pakistan and lost. The World understands that - and the spin you put on your retreat. A while back the US proxy at the time went to war with Iran and lost. The US will also lose if it goes to war directly with Iran. Oil supplies will freeze up. China will not be happy. You're going to the party already blind drunk. Enjoy it.

Ya know how absolutely no country in the world can compete in the skies against the US? Well, it's like that on the seas as well. If Iran decided to engage in a naval battle against US ships in the Gulf, they would meet a very quick demise. It will be far, FAR easier of the US to attack those units as well since there would be no question whether they are or aren't military targets. No question whether or not there are civilians to worry about. And the US is -very- good at it. Even though they are very good at it they've still lost the Afghan war. A strike by Israel = US/Iran at war.

Israel don't seem to have thought of that. They seem to think Iran can't do much to hurt them.

As Iran will attack shipping which will drag the US into war.

Most recent news is that Zimmerman didn't get beaten. Seems that broken nose wasn't really broken. Odd that the police would say it was broken when we all now know that it wasn't. We do know that killers often lie to cover their tracks. The police get to shoot black guys all the time. It just wasn't fair that Zimmerman couldn't do the same. He was almost a cop after all.

Hi Meso - wanted to touch on this last paragraph. You *are* aware that race didn't even get mentioned until after the *DISPATCHER* asked the race, and even then Zimmerman wasn't positive, right? From the 911 call transcript: Zimmerman: We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25] 911 dispatcher: OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic? Zimmerman: He looks black. It wasn't until some 30 seconds later that Zimmerman could confirm Martin's race: Zimmerman: Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band. And he’s a black male.[1:03] The kid looked black and suspicious to Zimmerman. As soon as he'd confirmed he was black - the Hunt was on. This one wasn't going to get away.

I well remember my 4 years as a cash in hand Bouncer!! No, I remember now - That's Zimmerman.

...George Zimmerman’s 'Jekyll and Hyde' personality came to be such a problem that he was fired from his job as a security guard, years before the Trayvon Martin case, according to a former co-worker. The co-worker who told the New York Daily News that he has since lost touch with Zimmerman, described Zimmerman as one of the guys, but with a dark side. The unidentified man told the paper: 'Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us'. He added: 'But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.' It was that attitude that led to Zimmerman ultimately being fired. The man told the Daily News: 'He had a temper and he became a liability. 'One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted'. 'It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2122583/Trayvon-Martin-case-George-Zimmermans-Jekyll-Hyde-temper-cost-security-guard-job.html#ixzz1qj1C7Css

I wish this part was further explained. cause the notes from the cop on the police report make note of the back of his jacket being wet from laying on grass. Was he on grass, but his head just happened to be on the sidewalk? Typically side walks in residential areas don't extend all the way to the curb. There is a side walk, then a buffer of grass and then the curb and street. He could have been in the grass on either side of the sidewalk and still had his head on the concrete. The latest witness says otherwise. He says the scuffle took place on grass.

Latest witness says there was a scuffle on grass and 2 shots.

No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it. 90% of blacks murdered in the US are murdered by blacks And 90% of whites murdered in the US are murdered by Whites.

He wouldn't have chased him if Trayvon had been white. He wouldn't have looked 'suspicious'.

Your agenda is to deny the obvious. I don't deny that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white. Are you frickin serious? His police calls show he was after blacks. He was pissed off because 'they always get away'.

Your agenda is to deny the obvious. I don't deny that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime. The point is he wouldn't have shot if Trayvon had been white.

No. The bottom line is that this case is the tip of a racist iceberg as regards the legal and prison system for all BLACKS. Those who turn a Blind eye or Deny this reality only reinforce it.