Thanks for all of the advice guys, I appreciate it. The 150 is going to be off the cards for a few hundred jumps. Looking at some 190 fitted rigs now. Will try to get the most out of it before I think about going smaller. It is true that the smaller canopy fitted rigs are cheaper because everybody knows students need 170/190's and they take advantage of it which is how things work.. at least when I am ready to downsize I can get some decent cash for the 190 and get a really nice 170 Again I appreciate the info, I want to be jumping for the rest of my life, so there's no need to rush things. Blue skies.