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My bad when mentioning Picton. I thought I had better correct my typo, it wasn't someone killing someone else, he actually killed himself and yes this is sad to have happened. Cheers

Yes I have heard that it is unlikely however i have known of people setting on the wrong mode and swooping and boom 2 canopies out. All i have in this instance to go on.is the individual's words bragging on faceook saying he lost awareness and went low. I was at a boogie in perth that ended june 3rd, im normally jumping at york but this happened further north on the coast during the boogie. I am not going to say names because its not right to on here neither will i mention dz names because thats not fair.

Hey there, I am glad there is a thread to discuss this. I have seen some very disturbing things going on in wingsuiting and I am only just about to begin wingsuiting myself. That is if I even get the chance. Some seriously retarded people have been fucking up, and these are not just simple mistakes that anyone could make. I am talking day one stuff like forgetting your altitude, going low, Vigil fire and bi plane ride. Then post it on facebook saying it was a successful weekend. I am in Australia where you need 200 jumps to wingsuit. I have taken my time, done shitloads of research and asked the guys who have done it fro years. I cannot wait to give it a go but if people keep doing these outright retarded things that are not expected from a D license jumper with 200+ jumps, then the APF might up our required jump numbers like Sweden. Seriously, if your a D license jumper and you loose alti awareness to the degree you get a vigil fire and bi plane mal, then you either need a 50-100 jump ban from wingsuiting so you can revisit some basics or you should just get out of the sport. Alti awareness is day 1 stuff. I sorry tor ant but I am really pissed off about what people are doing to tarnish the rep of the sport and wingsuiting, these people who should have auto darwinated by now but sadly haven't are busy killing other people i.e. the Picton abortion of an incident. I am not trying to ruffle feathers but it is in all our interests to discipline these idiots before they make things tougher on the rest of us. Imagine if your at 300+ jumps, a good wingsuiter and then all of a sudden the op regs change and you need 500 jumps to fly. How pissed off would you be getting told you cant do what you have been doing so well at all a long just because of a few retarded imbeciles? I really hope it doesn't come to that, I hope we just sanction temp bans on people who first time offend and perm bans on those who just don't get it. We shouldn't punish everyone. I know this is a bit of a rant and I am sorry but I am just worried I am not going to get the chance to even try something so awesome just because of a few idiots ignoring basic common sense/day 1 AFF1 concepts. All the best guys. Blue skies.

Hey thanx for all the replys guys, everything you all have told me pretty much confirms what I thought, I will stick with getting a suit for a beginner for both my safety and the safety of everyone else. Last thing I want is to end up dead or fuck up others. Cheers for the advice.

Hi guys, I am thinking future wise here, in the not too distant future I will be looking at getting a wing suit. I have looked around at a couple of manufacturers, I have some questions about Phoenix-fly verses some advice I have been given. I told a mate at the DZ the Phantom 3 looks Ok because it is designed with newbies in mind, however my friend who is much more experienced than me said I might be better off buying the Ghost 3 IF I went down that path. His reasons being, the Ghost is recommended for someone with around 80 Wing Suit jumps experience and you will generate that experience quite fast so you may aswell get an intermediate one strait up. Is this logic Sound? I haven't had the chance to ask one of the tutors at my home DZ yet as they haven't been around due to crappy weather.