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Something like a 12-way hybrid attempt. We barely built the 4 way base My 200th was just another sitfly 2 way with a friend, working on staying close. My 201st was a 15-ish way tracking dive. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Penetration - the ground of speed of a parachute when pointed antiparallel to the wind direction. Spanking - a very fast inflation of the parachute when deployed, resulting in discomfort and possibly pain to the skydiver. Horny Gorilla - a type of linked exit typically done by freeflyers. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Because if the olympic committee decides to include chess as an olympic sport, the only arguments against it you will be able to present are subjective and hold no water. The definition of sport depends on what society currently considers sport, and is almost completely independent of the characteristics of the pursuit in question. Dictionary.com says that a sport has to be physical, which is a characteristic, but there are examples of the olympic committee admitting non-physical sports into the mix, so even the current definitions are inconsistent. Serious arguments over what's a sport and what's not a sport is either just pissing in the wind or elitist indulgence and derogatory comments. What gets included in the olympics is essentially a subjective marketing decision guided by a set of rules. I really don't see why it matters. Suppose math or chess become an official sport. Has it somehow decreased, or in any way affected, any other sport? Examples of sports recognized by the olympics that involve little to no physical exertion: shooting (currently part of the games), FAI governed sports (including skydiving), bridge, golf, billiards, bowling, chess. Source: http://www.olympic.org/uk/sports/index_uk.asp We're not talking about the definition of the word "math". That's fairly well defined, defined enough to exclude what you are saying. Nobody gets a math prize for lifting weights, but nobody also gets a lifting weights prize for doing math. If the definition changes and math becomes an official sport, it'll still be a different sport from weight lifting. But, in a sense, you are right. Math is also a word, just like everything else in this rather silly argument. On a final note, I'm not trying to argue that the Putnam should be considered an olympic sport or something. I couldn't care less since I'm not good enough to compete in it anyway. I'm just sick of the elitism that is sometimes associated with these types of things. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

According to dictionary.com, you guys are right and a sport has to be a physical activity. According to my math sense, sport is a word and it's definition is irrelevant. My post was about some groups of people looking down on some other groups of people, the whole sport issue is just a catalyst. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I don't know, it could get pretty extreme when someone steps on your feet 10 times every minute -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

We agree. Sport is just a word. Looking down on people is another matter. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Why? Because it's not physical? Besides, I'm not really referring to the current definition of the word "sport" in my post. I'm referring to people looking down on untraditional competitive activities. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

You asked since when table tennis is a sport, and why. I'm answering those questions. Edited to add: And also, Debunk this for me. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

This is borderline Speakers Corner, which I left because of precisely these types of arguments. The callousness of this post really shook me though, so I'll risk it and answer. Since forever. Because it's really difficult to do it well and it's very easy to make it competitve. You're old-fashioned. There are a lot of sports that fat men can compete in that you would really suck at. Like chess, or competitive mathematics. Ten times more useful to society than throwing very large metal balls or running really quickly for short periods of time, too. Most sports, including skydiving, serve no practical purpose other than marketing tools and, perhaps, testosterone release for overcompetitive alpha males. All other benefits are either subjective and only apply to participants, or very marginal and indirect. By the way, fat men can compete in skydiving. It really bugs me sometimes how the "real" men look down on certain sports in particular, and human pursuits in general. I want to see some of these "real" men write a Putnam or play chess with a master. Here, 10 fairly elementary math problems and 6 hours to solve them. In fact, if you could solve just one of these in 6 hours that would be enough. Can't? Why not? The solutions are simple! It's just as difficult to do well in a mental sport as it is in a physical sport except that being beefy and big is manly, while being smart and studious is nerdy. Well guess what, last time I checked running really fast did not help to find a cure for cancer or build a spaceship. I'd love to see some of these "real" men who look down on nerds try to pass some of the math courses offered at our university. At least the advanced introductory math courses that do not assume a lot of background knowledge, I'll let the algebraic geometry and operator algebra courses slide. Whuffo you jump out of them airplanes? Whuffo you hit that tiny ball with that gay looking paddle? By the way, weren't you the one complaining about all the bitching and moaning in society? And why come down on fat men anyway? Anyway, I'll get off my soapbox and go back to studying for my final. embarrased shuffling of feet -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

There is no way that this is real. At the very least I just don't believe she actually jumped. Look at all that jewellery! Can you say ouch? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I had the same experience in my early jumps. We jumped from C182s, so you would be sitting right behind the door as it swings outwards and the air would blast you in the face. This is not an issue in an Otter, of course. I would hold my breath while the door opens, then slowly let it out. Helps with breathing, and helps with door fear. Now I don't really care, got used to it. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Strictly speaking, Girls = +/- Evil Dilbert's theorem: From physics, we know that Power = Work / Time. Since knowledge is power and time is money, Knowledge = Work / Money, or Money = Work / Knowledge. Therefore, the less you know the more you earn. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

You won't have to pretend if your boss faints Chicken? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Show it to your boss, see if they get it -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

You know you're complaining right now, right? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I think this is all a storm in a teacup. Sure, there are a few people who would like to own some "living science" or whatever else their whims call for, but overall it's no big deal. It's going to have the good effect of helping the research advance and helping science understand and refine the process, so that maybe, when people grow up, we can have stem cells when we need them and not die from various degenerative deseases left right and center. I think cloning humans for profit, or for any reason, is an absolutely terrible idea. Cloning pets is silly, but I guess I could live with it as long as the healthy birth rate was not lower than conventional birth for that species. Stem cell research is a different story all together. So they cloned a couple of cats, so what? If you're so upset about the fate of animals, why don't you stop animal control from putting down the animals that they catch? Are you vegetarian? I can think of much worse things than cloning that are done to animals by humans. These kittens appear to be healthy and happy after all, what's the problem? -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I'll play. 1. Whats your name? Eugene 2. How old are you? 22 in November 3. Why did you decide to start jumping out of airplanes? Whuffo? It's been on my to-do list, then a friend wanted to go, so I went. Friend appears to have quit skydiving even though he occasionally says that he'll go back to it, I stuck around. 4. Are you single or taken? Married? Uh, something? Don't know yet. 5. Do you have kids? No 6. What do you drive? Buick LeSabre, haha. 7. Have you ever done a kisspass? No 8. Where do you live? Toronto, Ontario 9. Do you have any pets? No, I move around too much 10. How many jumps do you have? 206 as of right now 11. What color eyes do you have? Blue 12. What is your nationality? Russian 13. Have you ever dated someone you met off the internet? No 14. Favorite Movie? Too hard to choose. Currently Office Space, but it varies almost weekly. 15. What do you do when you arent skydiving? Mostly school, math and work. In the other 5% of my life, occasionally hang out with friends. 16. Have you ever BASE jumped? No 17. If not... do you want to? Ugh, erm, ah, hmmm, gee, oh, I really don't know, I want to, but... Mommy, I'm scared 18. Do you have siblings? Nope 19. Where do you want to travel to the most? Hard to choose. The US (finally), Japan, Australia. 20. What's your favorite color? Very deep blue. 21. Where was the last place you flew to ( not skydiving )? Rome, Italy -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Try doing a tracking dive. Maybe even a solo. If there's a cloudy day with a 7,5-ish ceiling, go do a solo track. They're fun, and they'll show you how well you really track. Remember to plan to pull higher in case your track isn't as good as you think. Remember to keep looking at the ground to see where you're going and when you will get there. I'm not an instructor, this is just a suggestion. In my limited experience, even the best track doesn't start immediately. You need maybe 2 seconds for the track to really get going, which only leaves 1-2 seconds of actual working track if you're only tracking for 3-4 seconds. Thus, even the best track won't give you much separation in this case. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

This sport has changed me, as have many other things. Life is, hopefully, a learning process. Personal growth and all that. I think that what people mean by trying not to make skidiving what they are is that they are trying not to move out to the DZ and live their life doing nothing but skydiving. In this sense, I agree. I am a skydiver because I skydive. I am a car driver because I drive a car very often. Of course, skydiving is more meaningful to me than car driving. I'm also a lot of other things, and not all of them are less meaningful than skydiving. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

My friends girlfriend did her hop and pop today. It was pretty funny watching her get all nervous about a 5500' exit. Suppose you are an AFF student just doing their hop and pop. Suppose your exit altitude is 4000'. Your normal deployment altitude was 5000' on your AFF jumps. Now look, at terminal it would take you about 10 seconds to get to 3000' from 5000', right? But it would take you 12 seconds to get to 3000' from 4000' if you do a hop and pop! You have more time on a hop and pop, so just relax and enjoy. Anyway, I'm not an instructor, I just got this from reading the PIMs (SIMs) for my B license test. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Wouldn't this saying be more appropriate as "Pull everything in the right order until your goggles fill with blood" or something? Pulling everything could cause your goggles to fill with blood if you pull everything out of sequence. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

I think a better measure of this would take into account actual performance and not structural characteristics. Since we don't really have a coherent mathematical model for a non-rigid wing like a parachute, this would make sense. The performance number should take into account things like turn rate, altitude lost in turns, full flight speed, stall speed, stall point, position of sweet spot, responsiveness to front/rear/weight shift control input (this includes the "spinetto" opening characteristic), glide angle, near-stall descent rate, opening time/speed and consistency of deployment (maybe the standard deviation would work here), length of recovery arc for various inputs (fronts, rears, toggles), etc. Since noone really ever measures these things, assigning performance numbers to various canopies is going to be a very big project. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

You must be drinking the wrong alcohol then. Given, it takes getting used to. Given, straight vodka just burns and not much else and Coors Light is probably "brewed" by a large group of men pissing into a vat. However, there is some excellent beer out there, especially if you look at beers that are not meant to be consumed on wild rowdy parties. Good whisky is full of flavour. And then of course there are wines. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

Who are "they"? Especially after almost 900 jumps and 9 years. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.

20,000 / 2500 feet AGL. -- Toggle Whippin' Yahoo Skydiving is easy. All you have to do is relax while plummetting at 120 mph from 10,000' with nothing but some nylon and webbing to save you.