Thanks gowlerk
I've personally watched friends go from thinking they can only make it through the day with meds and marijauna and heavy drinking and never actually feeling like they could ever be them. I've also had several friends on the verge of suicide, that now are some of the happiest people you'll meet.
They get their bars run and ask this question, and now they can take the meds if they want but they don't need them and they are happier than they have been in their lives and they get happier every day.
So if you know anyone in that position and you'd like to send your friend a helping hand you can find someone near them hear. The practitioner may even accept your snake oil as payment
