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Fired 6 shots. Contrary to the movies it usually takes a few to actually stop a human especially one full of adrenaline. Any military or LE will tell you once you've decided to take a life you fire till the threat is eliminated. He had a fraction of a second to make that decision not ample time to think and discuss options. He managed to kill the suspect and not harm anyone else in a full courtroom. Job well done IMHO. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

CLICKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFACdo5OOWE Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Baglock? My baglock is about the size of his canopy, so he probably could land it. The man is gifted. Wise ass! Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Here's some good stuff! http://thechive.com/2014/04/16/the-lone-survivor-of-an-impossible-helicopter-crash-needs-our-help-20-photos/ http://thechive.com/2014/04/17/how-fast-did-chivers-take-a-37000-goal-to-130000/ Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Couldn't have said it better! Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

It fits perfectly my criteria. But as I understand it, it cannot by more precise than 100ft ? If it were more precise it would be less simplified. I am not certain but I am fairly sure that below 100ft some altimeters do have an alarm that can be set in 10 ft increments. realistically though by the time you are low enough to really need altitude detailed enough (10 ft or less increments) it's probably a really bad idea to be looking at your altimeter. Perhaps an audible in your helmet combined with an altimeter on your wrist is a better fix. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

What's a "H&P"? I assumed it was a hop and pop. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

One of the things I noticed when I bought my 190 was how much more responsive it is than the 210 I was jumping. Something you need to consider and maybe already have is if something goes wrong it all goes wrong very quickly. I may have misunderstood some of your post and for that I apologize but the fact remains that 60 SF is a lot of fabric to loose in one jump. I'd really try jumping a 210 for a couple of weekends and see how that feels to you and then a 190 before making any purchases. But I'm a newb too so take it for what it's worth. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Keep that attitude. It will serve you well. Plan on it. I survived for years doing a job that does not forgive error and the ramifications are all around you. I've personally seen a military jumper (static line) frap in on a jump. If you count my static line jumps (which I do not in my log book or on this forum) I would bet I'm over 200. The reality of our sport is not unlike explosives. Very often you're first big mistake is also your last. The "it won't happen to me" train of thought is typically the precursor to disaster. My attitude is ingrained sir, it's not that I don't want to be on a smaller canopy or fly a camera. If you take the collective experience on this forum and the sport and then look at the guidelines for jumping with a gopro, higher wingload, jumping with your friend who is doing a tandem, etc, it's really not a huge span of time between your first jump and those milestones. The problem is that people don't want to wait or look or be the newb. I revel in my NEWBNESS, embrace it, and more often than not get a lot of good laughs. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

As a newer jumper myself I'd suggest you consider the potential results of downsizing to quickly. 1. Death 2. shattered bones and months in hospital $$$$$$ 3. A shiny new wheel chair or someone else wiping your a$$ for the rest of your life... 4. Potentially being responsible for someone else getting hurt due to your lack of canopy control, and the list goes on. The inconvenience of having to pack a large chute when compared to the potential risks is nothing. I do understand not wanting to purchase a rig you may be potentially done with in say 30-50 jumps though. Rent something slightly smaller and jump that a few times. Then do it again with a slightly smaller size. Best advice I ever got from Lee (the ninja), was if you can't land it under the worst possible conditions, then you have no business jumping it. The consequences to poor decision making in this sport can be fatal or at the very least extremely painful and expensive. It's hard as a newb to make the right choice sometimes when you REALLY want to jump but usually you already know what the right choice is, you just don't like it. Better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air, than in the air wishing you were on the ground. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Sounds like some damn good training to me! What DZ was this at? Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Here GooniesKid let me clicky that for you. I had actually found that video and watched it when looking for the one above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1mL3YLOIY Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

I know "I don't know what I don't know". We were discussing things like this and I was noticing that my handles when under canopy are slightly different then when I'm just wearing my rig. Being former military and using muscle memory a lot this was of interest to me. It got us on the topic of the above article and subsequent video and I was trying to find it to send to another newer skydiver. I didn't want anything lost in my translation from memory of the article. Thanks everyone. Feel free to continue said discussion of boobies. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Thank you

There was an incident posted on here where an experienced skydiver had loosened his chest strap and then had an issue with the main. Because the chest strap had already been loosened he couldn't find the reserve or cut away handle since the loosened chest strap had changed their position. I have searched for the thread but can not find it. I was discussing this with another jumper at the DZ and they were interested in reading it and seeing the video that was attached. Does anybody remember this? Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Did that once from a sailboat anchored in a tidal river. Once you jumped in you quickly started getting pulled away from the boat by the the outgoing tidal current. It took everything you had to fight the current to get back to the boat. You just couldn't paddle around at leisure the way you wanted to. A bad idea! Before doing this, throw something in the water first and watch it's drift, then judge whether or not it's safe. And make sure someone remains on the boat who knows how to pull up anchor and come after you if necessary. Throwing something to check current is better than nothing but the current just under the surface can often be up to three times faster than the surface current. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Does inspire you to be a better man. Best compliment a man can have in my opinion. Well written and justly deserved. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

I missed that. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

This is precisely why I recommend reading this. Your response IS what most will be looking for and not at all what it will actually look like. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

This kind of goes along the lines of what I said earlier in this thread. People talk the talk but when action is needed far to often all you hear is crickets. http://www.upworthy.com/a-guy-hung-an-offensive-sign-around-his-neck-to-make-a-solid-point-and-it-worked?c=ufb1 Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

I'm a newb but my N3 is very accurate and displays like this when in FF and climbing. Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

With summer rapidly approaching many more of us will be on the water or doing water training. Please take a moment to read this. I posted it as a reply to a question, but thought about it and decided to post up for all. Stay safe. http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/ Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

I think what we have in this country is an ambivalence problem. We all preach doing the right thing but then simply watch when someone falls through the cracks. How many of us have sat in a line and watched someone getting more and more frustrated while the person dealing with them just sits there repeating the same (regulation,rule,reason for their inability to do a thing)? The same thing happens with bullying in schools. It's easy to preach what you should do when you witness bullying or any other kind of injustice from the safety of a keyboard. But when you may possibly have to confront the bully and put yourself at any risk most people walk away and discuss how wrong what they just witnessed was, post it on some social media or worst of all take out their camera to take a video. People aren't walking the walk. If we truly want to change things, then it's going to take all of us doing the hard right over the easy wrong. No laws or rules are going to fix this problem if when the action needs to be taken, nobody acts. My personal opinion is that a whole lot (not all) but a whole lot of these mass killings/attacks are done by a person who is not insane but at the end of their rope. They have been bullied or wronged for so long they finally snap. I have no idea what makes them think this is the best course of action but assume they are so full of hate and pain that they lash out in an effort to make others feel what they themselves feel (often it seems on their perceived offender or those who stood by and did nothing). Rather than waiting for it to get to the point of acting in a potentially dangerous situation, what I am suggesting is everyone recognize when something they're witnessing is a cog in the wheel of a final blowout. In the end I think only actions from people willing to risk something in order to show another that they aren't completely alone and someone actually cares, will solve the problem. This video shows many times what I am talking about. See someone fall on the tracks and out of 30+ people... 29 are pointing at the person and 1 is on the tracks not content to watch what is about to happen and do nothing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMYrIi_Mt8A Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Having been a lifeguard for years and been witness to my fair share of near drownings and body recoveries I finally have something to add as a newb. This article should be required reading for anyone doing any type of water training. http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/ Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.

Might have been said already and I'm by no means an expert compared to the majority of the jumpers on here but I always remember something that was said to me by a highly experienced jumper. "If you don't think you could land it in the worst possible conditions, you shouldn't jump it." I've had the same Sabre2 190 for a while now with absolutely no intention of downsizing anytime soon (not for lack of desire to fly a small canopy by the way) Thanks Lee (The ninja) Trail mix? Oh, you mean M&M's with obstacles.