FLYJACK

Feet first..

Newspaper dated.. April 1972. Obviously those props are fake,,

sure, he is part of the community... we don't all agree on things but he should know the forum is active again

Yup, money wasn't human buried but we will never know how it got there outside of a few plausible theories... Based on the evidence this is what I believe so far.. Money came from River. Money landed as one rubber banded bundle of three packets. Money went into the River in Spring/Summer. Money was in same condition/order as when given to Cooper. Money rounded off due to tumbling along sandy bottom. Money tumbled along bottom during a high water event to end up at the high water mark. Have 3 theories for how the money got into the River.. no way to prove anything. Considering a new possible theory that the 1974 dredge layer was on top of money and eroded away by 1980. The dredge layer Palmer identified as 1974 was actually a pre Norjak 1970 layer... The money was on top of the 1970 layer but under the 1974 layer until 1980 when it became exposed. So, Palmer assumed the money arrived after 1974 because it was above the dredge layer. It makes more sense if that was actually the 1970 layer.

For those that don't have it.. Sluggo's page in the archives. https://web.archive.org/web/20190210220215/http://n467us.com/

I agree and I don't have an issue wth new theories even if wrong.. they need vetting. That is how the case moves forward.. The problem is when these things get spread, promoted and used as fact... unchallenged. The PHD people created a presentation for CooperCon using false/altered path times now that presentation becomes fact to many people,, once bad info gets accepted in the Cooper domain it is hard to unwind it from the narrative.

The path is ok, the revised times are wrong.. We lost R99 with the forum change, maybe somebody can contact him?? Georger gets really grumpy when people change the evidence but he has a secret thing with Cunningham. I like Marty, but he went off the reservation with the Clara/Dayton stuff.. Where are the critical thinkers... nothing worse than (falsely) altering case evidence and pushing it as new info.

Original "FBI" Sage map on left.. Cunningham's revised theory on right now used as evidence.. (wrong)

Maybe Cunningham and Ryan can explain their dissemination of fake evidence including a high profile demo at the last CooperCon.... ask them why are times all shifted from the original map.. I don't know if Cunningham was the initial inventor of the altered times but advocated this theory as if fact.. He misled the PHD students and they also spread the false times.. The assumption is that because a mark is missing before 8:05 the map creator marked the times wrong.. one off. So, they changed the evidence.. WRONG. Let's be perfectly clear, this is a theory and is provably false.. not probably, but provably. complete bunk. Now, this map and those falsely altered times gets passed off as factual evidence.. Ryan has claimed Cunningham is the expert he defers to.. aka,, throws Cunningham under the bus. So, we have a small group misleading everyone pushing the jump south and advocating a false jump location. Cunningham has always tried to put Cooper in the Columbia R.. Cooper jumped about 8:11... They distort the evidence then use that lie as proof they figured out the jump zone.. Ryan lied and said the FBI now agrees with them,, they didn't, he was using Carr who is no longer an FBI agent and DOES NOT speak for the FBI.. Do not fall for it. Those altered times are wrong. Their jump zone is wrong. They actually have two errors. They missed a mark and got the spacing wrong. and how can a plane travel double the distance in one minute it did in the previous minute,, distance from 8:15 to 8:16 is double 8:14 to 8:15… and shifted numbers. and the times have been changed by one minute. 8:10 is really 8:11,, right about where Cooper jumped. I don't know what is going on with FB, if anybody has challenged this or not they blocked me even though I never posted anything ever. What are they afraid of, the truth. Go ahead ask them to explain it, they can't it is made up.

On AI... it is a disaster mostly. It is like a bad version of wikipedia stripping info from context,, leading to distorted perceptions. Those AI images people do in this case are also mostly negative for the case.. We have a witness composite sketch, we have witness statements with conflicting info.. flooding the Cooper environment with processed images distorts the case evidence and pollutes minds. Those "interpreted" images replace and become evidence, they are not. Even though we know they are AI, the human mind will incorporate them into their perceptions. AI has its place and can organize data but when it strips info of context it becomes a parody of reality. Tricky to get it right... IMO The FBI FILES are NOT NECESSARILY FACTS OR CONCLUSIONS, they are investigative notes. AI can regurgitate and sort them it can't process them. AI is like the FORCE in Star Wars,, it can be used for good or bad.

Interesting comment... would have been nice if we had a witness image side view,, oh wait...

Ryan seems to have an irony deficiency..

Haha... hilarious. I think Duane Weber was the OG Forrest Gump at the Chinese Buffet... the Skip Hall people have just taken over for Jo Weber.. Hall is actually very rare for suspects, he can be eliminated due to his unique facial features,, even Vordahl can't be eliminated with facts even though I don't believe he could be Cooper. The evidence is so weak and vague in this case, It is actually very difficult to eliminate a suspect if you don't know his location during NORJAK and he is close to the description. Hall can be eliminated.

The FBI file... He "indicated" is Tina recalling her impression, not Cooper's exact words. Cooper was responding to Minneapolis, that suggests he was referring to the characteristics of the people not the physical geography. We don't know for sure what Cooper meant, only he does. but it is reasonable to conclude that Cooper may have been describing the characteristics of the people in that area.

Flo liked KK5-1 Well, he does NOT have a small nose... and he looks much more like sketch B than A... From FBI files..

Skip Hall

The FBI profile of Cooper.. probably NOT an experienced criminal..

Probably likes Skip Hall....

Brilliant personal insult for a 12 year old. Ryan's supporters are getting younger.

Hall had a scar above his right eye,, must have been hidden by his massive forehead wrinkles.. This is NOT Cooper.

Ryan or anyone who denies Skip's unique facial features vs Cooper has zero cred in anything.. They are just shills.. They can't explain it so they deny and ridicule it.. to dismiss it. It is about as dishonest as you can get.

This is Ryan's nonsense.. Flyjack is being overly critical by attacking Skip for having forehead wrinkles when he raises his eyebrows up. Damn near everyone does. Besides, the sketches literally have pronounced forehead wrinkles. Multiple witnesses picked out foreheads from the "facial lines" category. So Cooper must have had enough forehead wrinkles for witnesses to 1. notice them in the first place, and 2. remember that he had them well enough for them to be able to pick out foreheads from the facial lines category. Hell, Flyjack calling attention to the forehead wrinkles may actually be a strength for Skip. His resting forehead wrinkles are actually a good match for the sketch. For Skip, Ryan tries to dismiss the obvious facial features in several ways.. Hyperbole,, attacking Skip, no, pointing out the obvious FACTS... He ignores the severe lines from Skip's eyes. He ignores the 4 visible lumps/bumps on his face. He ignores the mole on his left cheek (Tina's side). He is minimizing by claiming everyone has forehead lines, duh, of course they do but not like Skip's, those are severe and unique. Witnesses were asked about unique features. He makes up the claim that Cooper never lifted his eyebrows, ridiculous, in Skip's video interview and images he did often, naturally. Then he completely manufactures a claim, that witnesses did notice Skip's forehead lines.. because they used the category in the sketch catalog.. Of course they were shown and asked about forehead lines and NONE mentioned severe forehead lines.. that is part the process. Forehead lines differ and can indicate a suspect. Cooper had normal lines,,, the sketches have normal lines. Skip's are unique, severe, numerous and run very high into his receding area. NO WITNESS described Cooper as having Skip's severe forehead lines. Then he claims it is a positive, it helps Skip, this embodies everything wrong with the amateurs influencing this case.. completely delusional and dishonest. An inversion of reality. Gryder level stuff form Ryan. It isn't nitpicking, it is factual and eliminates him. The witnesses NEVER mentioned Skip's obvious and unique facial features. The severe forehead wrinkles. The severe eye wrinkles. The 4 noticeable bumps/lumps on his face. A mole on his left cheek. Not one peep from any witness when asked... This is NOT Cooper's face. For Google searchers. Proof Skip Hall is not Cooper, Proof Loran Hall is not Cooper, Proof Loran Eugene Hall is not Cooper. Two obvious bumps/lumps seen here.. Hair parted both sides.. extreme forehead lines, dimpled chin and more bumps/lumps of face. His eyes look light not dark brown. Mole, left cheek, Tina's side view. Severe eye wrinkles..

Complexion light.. 5' 7" how old was he 15 Brown eyes could be light brown or hazel... I think I heard Skip passed himself off as Cuban but Cooper's complexion was dark and definately not yellow.

Must be light brown or hazel,,, Cooper's eyes were dark... not enough to eliminate. Hall was well know to intel agencies...

Speaking of eyes, Skips eyes look light not dark.. but pic is B&W, any good pics showing accurate eye colour.