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There is no connection to the subject matter advertised on the matchbook,, it is random.. many companies advertised that way.

Flo wrote his demands on a plain envelope,, I assume it was his.. though they don't make that clear I can't imagine another plain envelope appearing then.

That doesn't make sense... he left the cig butts... and we don't know if he even cared about the tie or not. So, if it wasn't for the prints then why?? Writing is the only reason.

It didn't have to go to the cockpit to have something written on it.. Most Comms were via Tina and the interphone... If he didn't retrieve it for the prints then why? I can't think of any reason..

I lean toward it being legit... why would Cooper take an empty matchbook? The reason given by most was for the fingerprints.. but that makes no sense, he left other items that would have had prints, he offered money that would have prints, his ticket, the glass, the tie, the plane, the chute, the card.. it makes no sense for him to want the empty matchbook for the prints and not the other things. So, what other reason would there be,,, Writing, he took back things with writing, notes.

The advertising subsidized the matches, so they were cheap/free where cigarettes were bought... stores or machines.. they were headquartered in PA but available everywhere. They were just cheap/free, ubiquitous and tell us nothing about Cooper. The advertising subject is irrelevant.

Exactly,, another thing is the empty matchbook Cooper retrieved and taken had notes in it.. Cooper took it because it had writing like the notes not because of prints. Cooper didn't care about prints. IMO, he had obfuscated his prints.

Yeah,, it is what it is... The 302 may not be complete or accurate, she did say there was a second matchbook that fits but no description of the second cover.. Witness 302's are not facts, they have errors and omissions. On the other side, Tosaw did interview Tina and Rataczak,, both kept in contact. Nothing is certain.. but the ICS cover would have to have been completely fabricated and those aren't typically the type of errors in books...

Welcome to the Vortex, you can think but you can never believe.. Even the FBI files have errors... they are not conclusions, they are investigative notes. Interviews are not always accurate either... an agent takes notes then it gets typed up later... She confirms two matchbooks.. The Vortex is full of these things...

Ratazcak also mentioned them. Beat me to it.. Lights are important... Cooper was wearing sunglasses.. how did he see with the lights off and how or what could Tina see looking back at Cooper in the dark? She was maybe 25 feet away.. closing the curtain.

Tosaw is very reliable,,, but not 100% He said Tina grabbed that second matchbook from the cabinet.. that would be the Skychef one,, When Cooper's matchbook, the ICS was empty. That means Cooper did not bring the Skychef matches with him. It makes sense.

Good points,, but at 4 min after takeoff Tina turns and sees Cooper standing with the lights out,, How well could she Cooper in the dark and would he have still had his sunglasses on? She did say she never saw his face straight on and never without his glasses.

Not only dimming but different sections.. Al Lee... lights out AFT section.. 4 min after take-off lights were out in rear.. it doesn't actually say Tina turned them off then... just that they were off..... and how well did Tina see him in the dark then? It isn't clear about the sequence or timing of the lights but Cooper was in the rear with Sunglasses and no lights and he had to lower the stairs and go down them to jump.. Did he remove his sunglasses?? I always wondered if he had a flashlight or used one of the plane's flashlights..

Sounds reasonable but the lighting isn't as simple as on or off..

Hard to believe the FBI would give up a potential DNA profile,,

Fuel driver said the rear interior of the plane was dark... this pic may have been taken earlier.

Here,, and stairs,,

Georger,, Roman is detailed in FBI file #46.. Crazy story,, could be a movie, I suspect he forged his credentials and wasn't a legit Dr.. he even has a patent.. not Cooper though. Amazing find about the 727 air drop in the newspaper,, it was even more amazing about 6 years ago when I posted it on Shutter's site, it was discussed with muted enthusiasm, if I recall I also posted details about the 727M prototype designed for air drops in the 60's and also an article in an aviation publication stating that the 727 airstairs were successfully lowered inflight during initial testing 63/64.. Maybe you guys can find those in the next 6 years. Tom has thrown cold water on the TiSb particles but Olemiss still misrepresents the TiSb patent.. The patent is for a production process not TiSb in 18%.. Although TiSb is mentioned in a ratio range it is not exclusive to the patent and there is no evidence it was ever even produced in the same ratio as the tie particles.. That patent is entirely irrelevant to the tie particles... Vordahl has no connection to Norjak. The person who contacted Gunther was in NY... not Dayton. But I agree Cooper has some aviation experience.. some military... that narrows it down to maybe 50,000 guys..

Nope, ears.

Wise words...

I find that most don't actually understand Gunther's book premise.. what he is actually claiming as fact. He did not claim as fact that he was contacted by Cooper or that "Clara's" story was true. Basically, these are what Gunther claims are true. Gunther and others were contacted by somebody claiming to be Cooper. Gunther contacted the FBI and Himmelsbach. Gunther was contacted by a "Clara" and given a narrative.

Why is Nicky deleting posts??

Yes, Cooper had aviation experience and that rules out a lot of suspects.

More info.. The FAA replaced the Civil Aeronautics Administration... They had IFR rules, here an example in 1947... (may be earlier) essentially it says.. ATC has the determination for flight plans. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwibuKfs0NiDAxVxIDQIHfXpDCMQFnoECCYQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Frosap.ntl.bts.gov%2Fview%2Fdot%2F52922%2Fdot_52922_DS1.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0V7w-cvOM10CWCE65apAb9&opi=89978449

Agree, this case is riddled with uncertainties... IFR goes way back though,, I agree Cooper had some flying experience and it may be after 1950's but IFR did exist prior so earlier exposure can't be ruled out,, or maybe both. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/history-visual-flight-rules-vfr-world-invention-airpaceaviation https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/about/history/pioneers/First_Instrument_Flight_Doolittle.pdf