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thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag no obvious diatoms were found, according to Kaye. thats all I know. This is from Kaye's website. "The modern bills soaked in the Columbia River were examined using a scanning electron microscope (SEM.) At least three different species of fresh water diatoms were found immediately. Subsequent examination of the Cooper bills found no diatoms. Not seeing any diatoms on the Cooper bills does not guarantee that they are not there, so any final conclusions on this would be speculative."

Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location It is listed as "VANW: Columbia River at Vancouver" where VANW is probably the symbol for the gage. Here is a web page that may have linking information to the Vancouver information. http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil 71 is missing only 72+ is there max (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:VANW+record://VANW/HG//1DAY/MAX/+psy:+psm:+psd:+pey:+pem:+ped:+pk:id.vanw it is referred to as the old gauge max, mean , min 72+ (24 Hourly) http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/perl/dataquery.pl?k=id:vanw

a recent news clip about the dump.. http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/St-Johns-landfill-to-become-public-park-213246631.html

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Your theory is as good as any other to explain how that money ended up at Tina Bar. There are a couple of things to remember, though. First, the AMOUNT found. Now if you are going to have this money travel for miles, then this makes it tougher to explain how more than one bundle ended up being found in the same exact spot. This almost has to assume the money was in a container, but no container or evidence of a bag was ever found, even after an extensive dig by the FBI and volunteers. Second, there is Tom Kaye and his Citizen Sleuths assessment of the cash. They were allowed to examine the bills. Kaye thinks the bills were not moved by water. He states a few points why HERE. I've suggested that someone here question Kaye more closely and try to pin him down further on the question of the bills being affected by possible travel by water. If one were to stash cash in a house attic, floor or wall or dwelling, it seems reasonable to speculate that it may be in a plastic bag or other material, to keep it clean and dry... I would do that,, though there was no plastic bag found.. it would keep the bills intact during the 3-4 mile float.. That dump had a lot of activity and expansion over the years. The deposit on TBAR would be virtually intact if in a plastic bag.. Then the rest of that money may be in that dump, but nobody would throw it in the dump intentionally.. I wonder if is possible to match addresses of male deaths with house demolitions or new construction dates.

Flyjack, The Army Corps of Engineers make daily readings of the Columbia River heights, etc., at a point a few hundred feet east of I5 and just off shore of Vancouver, WA. Information collected at that sensor is available online from November 1, 1974 to the present. The same information for the period of November 24, 1971 (date of the hijacking) to November 1, 1974 was collected but can't be located. This suggests that it is not online. That information is needed to determine what, if anything, the Columbia River level had on moving the money. So if anyone knows where that information is located, please speak up and fast. Robert99 What is the name of that station/location

thanks, Ill try that for any links, Yes, the slough would be rich with Diatoms, but I thought the analysis on the money was inconclusive,, some found then not found/detected?? Further the Dump is close to the outlet into the Williamette, what would the water be like in a flood??? The cash may have been "repackaged" when stashed... plastic bag

Flyjack, this possible source has not been considered before to the best of my knowledge. I would like to defer further comment on this to a future date. In any event, I'll go where the facts indicate. If you can find a source for the early 1970s Columbia River data, please post or PM immediately. Both Georger and I will probably have trouble keeping our feet on the planet if you find that data. In the meantime, stay tuned and keep the faith. As mentioned earlier, the wheels are moving and time is of the essence. Robert99 what data are you looking for,, Historical Crests for Columbia River at Vancouver (1) 31.00 ft on 06/13/1948 (2) 30.80 ft on 06/01/1948 (3) 27.70 ft on 12/25/1964 (4) 27.60 ft on 06/04/1956 (5) 27.20 ft on 02/09/1996 (6) 26.30 ft on 06/19/1933 (7) 26.20 ft on 05/31/1928 (8) 26.00 ft on 06/12/1921 (9) 25.90 ft on 06/26/1950 (10) 25.60 ft on 06/16/1903 (11) 25.44 ft on 01/19/1965 (12) 25.30 ft on 06/22/1917 (13) 25.30 ft on 06/03/1916 (14) 25.20 ft on 06/13/1913 (15) 22.55 ft on 01/03/1997 (16) 21.50 ft on 06/12/1972 (17) 21.10 ft on 06/22/1974 (18) 19.54 ft on 01/24/1970 (19) 19.03 ft on 06/05/1997 (20) 18.50 ft on 12/01/1995 (21) 17.50 ft on 04/27/1996 (22) 17.43 ft on 06/02/2011 (23) 16.80 ft on 02/02/1997 (24) 15.00 ft on 12/30/1998 (25) 12.32 ft on 11/26/1999

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation." Dates these dumps were affected by high water 1971-1980 ? Still looking for water levels.. though the activity may have dislodged it. EDIT

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died... Pay no attention to Jo. She claims to own every idea in the Cooper catalog. Your theory offers a real world idea of how Cooper money could have come to Tina Bar. JT claimed to have released ping-pong balls in the Washougal and they came to rest on Tina Bar ... a claim yet to be documented! A claim like yours was advanced here by Farflung some years back, involving construction on Hayden or Govt Island - I forget which.. You might want to do a search of his post on that. What dates of passage do you have in mind? And, what species of diatoms dominate in the slough you are focusing on! ? ... Flyjack, can you give the precise location of the Columbia Slough that you are talking about? Further, do you know the dates that construction started and finished on the Flushing Channel between the Columbia River and Vancouver Lake? The river entrance is just south (upstream) of Caterpillar Island. And Flyjack, if you are a resident of the Portland/Vancouver area, do you know when the marina was built that is now between Caterpillar Island and the "mainland"? Finally, does anyone know of a source (hopefully with a link that works!) for the Columbia River data at Vancouver for the period from November 24,1971 to December 31, 1972? Things are moving and time is of the essence! Robert99 I am not from the Portland area.. The St. Johns Landfill/dump was operational in the 70's and is at the East end of the Columbia Slough close to the Williamette. maybe a 3-4 mile float to TBar, has this been considered as a possible source of the cash?? If the cash came from the dump, it wouldn't have been thrown out intentionally, perhaps the cash was stashed in a house, maybe the owner had died and the cash was abandoned. The house was demoed and the debris dumped.. So, a dead previous owner matched to a demolished house in 1978-9ish. I found another location in the Slough that looks like a back yard of an old house that had a slide into the Slough, if the cash were buried in the yard, the slide may have put it in the water. Ironically, I found a small culvert that connects to drainage ponds/ditches at the Southern side of the Airport,,, it currently dumps into the Waterway.. So, there are many ways that cash could have made its way into the Columbia Slough, but the dump is interesting as the cash could have been stashed "protected"" in a house or structure (container) for years first.. Since it is unlikely that the cash was out in the elements anywhere for 6-8 years. It seems probable that it was stashed, hidden and dislodged by mechanical means prior to TBar... It was an active landfill through the "Cooper" 1971-1980 timeframe "14 million tons of garbage Located in north Portland near the confluence of the Columbia and Willamette rivers, the 238-acre St. Johns Landfill is situated in Metro’s Smith and Bybee Wetlands Natural Area, the largest protected wetland within an American city. By the early 1960s, the former lakebed was filled with garbage to the edge of its surrounding levee. Although the majority of waste in the landfill is domestic solid waste, industrial waste from a pesticide-manufacturing facility also was disposed in the landfill between 1958 and 1962. Metro estimates that up to 14 million tons of waste were disposed in the landfill site during its years of operation."

What story is a take off??? are you just trying to discredit me.. by associating me with someone else that may or may not exist,,, I am not playing games... I may be newer to this but that can be a positive or a negative.. There are lots of ways the cash could have been dislodged in the Columbia Slough.. There is even a garbage landfill in the Slough that was operational late 70's.. http://www.oregonmetro.gov/index.cfm/go/by.web/id=25126 I am creating a logic tree and one branch is that the money came from the landfill in the slough, was not intentionally thrown out, may have been hidden in a house that was torn down and all debris dumped,, Any homes torn down in the late 1970's.. after the owner died...

There is also a steel truss rail bridge that crosses the Columbia Slough, i searched this forum for info on possible activity in the Slough prior to 1980 that may dislodge the cash,, nothing here,, but I did find an internal proposal with specific options dated 1975 for work in the Slough.. Were any of these carried out,, http://www.ccrh.org/comm/slough/primary/jamiehart.htm "July 25, 1975 From xxxxx xxxx To Commissioner xxxxxx Addressed to Subject Columbia Slough Flood Control Project The study of the Columbia Sough began in 1966 with the DMJM plan for Rivergate and the North Portland Peninsula sponsored by the Port of Portland, the city and the county. From 1968-69, the Corps of Engineers completed recognizance studies of the Rivergate/North Portland Area, but suspended work until a separate study was completed by a special task force made up of members of the North Portland Peninsula Study in December of 1972 and recommended the closure of Columbia Slough for flood control and the development of the banks of the slough and Smith and Bybee Lakes for recreation. The work of the task force was adopted by the Port. The Corps of Engineers then began detailed recreational development which were presented at a public hearing on June 19, 1974. At that hearing, representatives of the city, the Port and the county presented position papers. All three of the agencies gave public support to Plan 1 as proposed by the Corps of Engineers. The Corps of Engineers has completed its report on the project and has selected Plan #1 as the proposed action." Proposed Action For purposes of discussion, the slough has been divided into the lower slough and the upper slough. The lower slough is the western end from Kelly Point Park to the Peninsula Drainage Canal. The upper slough is that area encompassed by the Multnomah County Drainage District. Essentially, the upper features of this proposed action are flood control, recreational development, and cultivation of fish and wildlife. The primary element in the proposed action is the closure of Columbia Slough at its juncture with the Willamette River just south of Kelly Point Park. The closure would necessitate a 170,000 GPM capacity pumping plant which would be provided at the closure site so that interior drainage could be evacuated during high stages in the Willamette River. In addition, the three gaps in the Port of Portland's landfill would be closed by the Bonneville Way Levee, the North Portland Harbor Levee Flood Wall, and a closure embankment in the Columbia Slough. In addition, modifications to existing flood control facilities would be made in three drainage districts. The sewer outfalls and the levee flood wall of the Peninsula Drainage District #1 would be closed off, and part of the levee of the Peninsula Drainage District #2 along Marine Drive would be reinforced. Levees along the Columbia Slough in three drainage districts would not then be reinforced because high flood stages would not occur in the slough.

There are a lot of steel (iron) bridges on the west and northwest side of Portland primarily on the Willamette and other secondary streams. The steel I5 bridge over the Columbia has a drawbridge if I remember correctly. However, it is very unlikely that Gustave Eiffel (1832-1923) had anything to do with these bridges. His crowning achievement was the Eiffel tower which was completed in 1889 as part of the preparations for the 1889 World's Fair (or Universal Exposition) in Paris. After the Eiffel tower, Gustave seems to have devoted his interests to other scientific matters instead of engineering structures. Robert99 I searched google maps and my picture with a "Dan Cooper" in it resembles the train bridge EDIT (WEST) of I5, there is a road right there, I assume that bridge was there in 1971,, Has anybody searched around the bridge/shore area... it is a short float to TBar from there. here is the google image.. edit, it could also be on the other side of Hayden island crossing the Columbia,,

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. I can hardly believe it someone with humor sadly happaly thank you Sir. I'm from earth to. It been along time. The bridge of the Gods is up the Gorge on Hy 14,it is very tall. But the money was planted for sure 100 percent. It was confirmed to me. And the location of the money before it was put there.It's in my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13. But I see you don't want to cloud your judgment with with books. Sounds good. You want fact's only. Well The ticket is fact 1971 that night the letter's are fact 1971 1972 Letter's to FBI are Fact 1971 1972 And the DNA under the stamps fact It matches KENNETH P C on 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA fact This case is solved as of 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett fact Call Curtis ENG FBI SEATTLE WA FACT Well, I wouldn't bash others theories, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated.. Was there any DNA found on the ticket?? Is there any DNA from the hijacker?? other than cigarettes than may be missing The ticket has KENNETH's writing on it the name DAN COOPER ONLY.and the letter's match KENNETH'S writing that were sent to the new's papers ,FBI and MAX GUNTHER Have his hand writing on them 1971 1972 The stamp's have his DNA under them and that's when Curtis said solved and Paul you can go to the media. You did it I will call LARRY CARR right now. Paul Geivett VAN 9 same as the VAN 9 Letter 99 what are the odd's of that Van 9 and Van 9 it scared me the first time. The RENo Letter has Kenneth's name in it this is my own video All me on my own but71 not 74 I was corrected GC 148 . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atTJ_aEA8WQ it is not fact that the writing on the ticket is the hijacker. Hand writing analysis is not fact, more art. Actually the writing on the ticket suggests one person wrote all. The hand writing on those letters match Kenny in some places and don't in others, randomness of patterns. It is not fact that the DNA matches the stamp, but assuming it does, and that info is being withheld that puts Kennys saliva on a stamp not on the hijacked plane.. So, your suspect is circumstantial, as is mine and maybe 1000 others.. It falls short of proof, unless you "believe" that there is a cover up, but there is no proof of that. I wouldn't suggest that Kenny isn't the guy,, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated but my process is to try to eliminate my suspect, while it seems most are trying to include their suspect. The facts of this case are actually very thin which forces a lot of speculation, but you need "theory" until you can put somebody on the plane.. My gut feeling is he died in the jump, but I have to rule out my suspect.

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. I can hardly believe it someone with humor sadly happaly thank you Sir. I'm from earth to. It been along time. The bridge of the Gods is up the Gorge on Hy 14,it is very tall. But the money was planted for sure 100 percent. It was confirmed to me. And the location of the money before it was put there.It's in my book DB COOPER CASE SOLVED 6 13 13. But I see you don't want to cloud your judgment with with books. Sounds good. You want fact's only. Well The ticket is fact 1971 that night the letter's are fact 1971 1972 Letter's to FBI are Fact 1971 1972 And the DNA under the stamps fact It matches KENNETH P C on 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett of Vancouver WA fact This case is solved as of 6 13 13 by Paul Geivett fact Call Curtis ENG FBI SEATTLE WA FACT Well, I wouldn't bash others theories, everyone is a suspect until they can be eliminated.. Was there any DNA found on the ticket?? Is there any DNA from the hijacker?? other than cigarettes that may be missing

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today. There is no major bridge near where it was found! Above water, or below water, or in Spain either! JHC! Has this thread gone mushugannah? I originally thought Bridge of the Gods, are there any closer ones to compare?? I am sure it sounds crazy but I have picture of a confirmed Dan Cooper at a steel truss bridge with an object marked on it, and it shows mountains in the background. I figured it was the North side..

Can you prove that it wasn't happily planted,, I have a picture, I believe could be related from my suspect, it is of a steel truss bridge, it has a position drawn on it, a box shape with a w squiggle, at least it sort of looks that way. At first I thought it was Bridge of the Gods based on the mountains in the back but I am not that familiar with the bridges in the area in the 1970s. Maybe it is one of the other bridges, It is possible that the money was stashed at one of the truss bridges closer to where the money was found, it became dislodged, floated downstream and was found on the sand bar. This picture looks like it has a fence and some lights, like lamp posts.. hard to tell could be a parking area or storage.. but it might not be accurate today.

It takes 3 to 4 months for money to lose its tensile strength with sand and water from Tian br. I have done it. I have a jar with money in it right now in front of me with 7 months of rot. I will make a video right now if you like.I will compare with fresh dollar to 7 months of rot. Money falls apart at 3 month time frame with Columbia river sand and water. To much time on my hands GC 148 The Gray Cop page 1971 cool Were there any steel truss bridges in 1971 near the location that the money was found. Or the closet one upstream?

(Guessing here, since Mitchell first says he didn't notice Cooper being swarthy or dark skin tone, but then says he didn't recall seeing a pretty white guy. This doesn't make a lot of sense. I would have to listen to the audio to see if the transcription is correct. I would guess Mitchell actually MEANT to say he didn't recall seeing anything but a pretty white guy. Hard to tell what he really meant there. If the audio is accurate with the transcript, then this question should be re-addressed with Mitchell.) NOTE: I don't believe Mitchell was interviewed by Geoff Gray. I think the only Mitchell testimony Gray used was from Gray's access to the FBI witness reports. In that, Mitchell claimed the hijacker was no more than five foot nine. Quote from the Dawn Andrusko interview, sister of Bernie Geestman: ***'I asked her if Kenny had ever worn a toupee. She said yes, but added that he never wore it on the job, only socially sometimes and not very often. I pinned her down on the last time she had actually seen him wear it. No, she said, she had not seen him wear it after 1971. He had taken to wearing baseball hats instead...' Bills description of the suspect matches my suspect.. White guy turkey neck hair odd looking, possible toupee Also, he claimed suspect always had sunglasses on,,, this attached image is my suspect, but let me explain it, the image is a still from a transition gif between the DB Cooper sketch and a photo of my suspect at 65-70 (guess). I did not distort the images, only laid one on top of another. The glasses are from my suspect, I darkened them slightly to give the appearance of sunglasses (they are regular glasses on original) only for this image not the transition as Bill Mitchell said he had sunglasses the entire time he saw him, believe it or not there two faces in this image, the shape of the face and head, location of the eyes, eyebrows, hair, nose lips, ears are a dead ringer. Including a turkey neck... gobble gobble Note,, This is a few frames short of the full 100% transition to my suspect.. I think Bill Mitchell should look at this...

There is another angle that I think has been overlooked, it has nothing to do with my suspect, I did not come up with a suspect looking into this.. but it is interesting.. About 30 minutes North of the US/Canadian Peace Arch border is a community called Maillardville, a suburb of Vancouver BC, my grandparents grew up there. it is the largest French Canadian community in the West, a substantial community. They were very blue collar, fully french/english bilingual, extremely french Canadian culturally, smokers, drinkers and military.. they love and celebrate the military most of them were in WW2. Most were born there but were fully french Canadian. My grandparents and their friends would drive to Reno or Vegas every year for their vacation. It was common to cross the border and shop or do day trips. So, when I read the FBIs "cooper" suspect description, it resonated with my knowledge of that community. I thought that Cooper may have come from that community. So, I started to research the possible connection to the titanium on the tie and Canada was a titanium producer and there were companies in the area that used titanium, in fact I found one still in existence today that was started in 1970, DO THEY STILL HAVE EMPLOYEE RECORDS. At this point I got sidetracked with that other suspect and haven't followed up on a possible Maillardville connection, but it should be investigated. There was a letter sent to the local Vancouver "The Province" newspaper and the Reno letter, though it is likely a hoaxer. http://www.maillardville.com/index.php/en/history

According to the flight path the FBI and others DICTATE - no way he was over the WASHOUGAL, but so much of the story I was tolded seemingly involved the Washougal area. Yet, I am told it is impossible per the projected route and YET another well know Cooper searcher maintained until recently that Cooper hit in the Washougal area. Per the flight track being projected by the FBI and the "facts" there was NO way Washougal was involved. I argued till I was blue in the face. When I was out there in 2010 I realized time and space was not part of my memory of the places Weber took me. BET your subject worked on the pipelines &/or powerlines. The GUYS knew that area real well.... Duane claimed to have known 3 guys who he had worked with who went to Mt Hood after the left an area in the 40's. One of the guys played a guitar and wore boots and everywhere he went that guitar went with him. He also rode horses at fairs. NO ONE ever found this old friend of Webers, but surely there was more than one guy who fit that description in the mid 40's. Well, I know we found him but the dead do not talk....and I could never find any of his family to see if they had some old pictures. Good Luck Kiddo! You are starting where I started 18 yrs ago and now I am 73 yrs old and the FBI will not do any investigation beyond what they have which was no more than prints. The prints they have are particials and they do NOT even know if they belonged to Cooper. At least that is what I was told. Evidently the prints they obtained were very smugged. I never meant to imply that the flight was over Washougal.. Speculation,, He landed West of Washougal, then likely crossed it heading East.. he may have fled the area heading East, crossing the Washougal on foot, possibly slipping on rocks and dropping some cash. The image I have of my suspect is older, It is what it is, I am only comparing what I have to the sketch, the shape of the face and position of eyes, eyebrows, nose, lips ears, hair, forehead is bang on. This alone is not conclusive, of course. My suspect is not American and there is evidence that he may have been at the Bridge of the Gods. the only takeaway is that it may place him, a non American in the area at some time,, There are maybe hundreds or a thousand suspects that would fit the "circumstantial" evidence, none is proof until you can put him on the plane. On some of the circumstantial, I was vague on some points, but there are some very strong circumstantial ties to this case. How many suspects have you run across that match all the particles on the tie,,, match the sketch,,, are proven to be connected to the name "Dan Cooper",,, are associated to aviation and were in WW2 Europe,, multilingual,, including french,,, are the right age,,, non American (might explain the lack of cash turning up),, always wore a tie,, I have been trying to eliminate this guy, and I am only left with obtaining that "personal" document which should have fingerprints or possible DNA. Would that solve it, who knows,, is it worth pursuing, yeah, I think so.. it won't cost much, it will come down to opportunity and circumstance.. it will happen. BTW, I do have a short hand writing sample, in a photo, is it confirmed that there was no hand writing evidence from Cooper.. Question,, are there or were there any trails East West at the time,, similar to the North South Pacific Crest Trail

Sure seems that way, so what will or does it take to put a suspect on the plane.. is it even possible? one would think if Cooper survived, something involved with the crime would also survive that would put him right in the seat. perhaps something only Cooper and the FBI know would help as well. one single $20 dollar bill works well too. If he survived, fingerprints and DNA, he is likely dead by now, $20 bills in circulation last an average of 7.7 years (today).. there is a possibility that the FBI is withholding something?? i have a gif transition of the suspect sketch to my suspect (age 65-75) and have isolated a still from it. Is there any way to share it without posting it publicly for the world.. I don't think anyone can identify my suspect from it. It shows an identical shape and structure, everything lines up perfectly. The full transition is amazing. Is there any way to have a witness view it??? though the image of my suspect is much older,,

Sure seems that way, so what will or does it take to put a suspect on the plane.. is it even possible?

Your suspect sounds interesting indeed, and should be investigated if what you say is accurate. I only want to venture a couple of comments on the money. Two things: 1) FBI agent Larry Carr, the man assigned to the Cooper case before the current agent Curtis Eng, said in a radio interview from 2008 that most banks gave up the search effort for the bills within three months after the FBI released its 34-page list, and virtually all of them within six months. Reason given was the difficulty involved for tellers to try to compare all their incoming twenties against a 34-page list of 10,000 non-sequential numbers. It was a nearly impossible job from the start. 2) I contacted a senior representative from the Treasury Department (Printing and Engraving) in DC back in 2010. I questioned him on a possible search for the Cooper bills back when the hijacking occurred. He said they receive literally truckloads of bills a day, and such a search, even if it were ordered by the Justice Department, would have been virtually impossible to implement. He said even if any efforts were made, such efforts would have been very short-term and the chances of locating one particular matching bill vitually impossible. What does this all mean? It means that by April of 1972 it would have been safe for the hijacker to pass the bills with little to no risk of being caught...because no one was looking anyway. I am no expert on the currency system, but there is the immediate notification that went to banks (3 months), then there is the general circulation and destruction of bills for replacement, I would expect the serial numbers to be recorded. So, I would assume that if the money were eventually spent in the US that at some point a serial numbered bill would turn up somewhere in the system or be recorded. On the other hand, bills circulating outside the US may not be treated the same, not just the immediate notification but upon destruction. I do know that there is more US money floating outside the US than inside. This needs expert clarification.. My working conclusion, it may have been safe to spend the bills in the US after 3 months but over the full lifespan of the bills in the system I would expect one to turn up.

The evidence indicates that my suspect may have been at the North side of the Bridge of the Gods (the escape route), My speculation is that he landed east of the flight path but west of Washougal and east of intended LZ and escape route, he could have dropped some money crossing the Washougal at night, perhaps slipped on rocks and stumbled or fell, he may have had a car stashed somewhere east of the Washougal. (pure speculation in the context of my suspect) I do have a serious question that some here may know,, Is the flight path different between the Mexico and Reno destinations, in other words, did the change to Reno put the plane slightly West of the expected path or would the paths be the same?? I am trying to figure out the "expected" path to Mexico vs "actual" path to Reno.. same or different? On the tie, the titanium was a rare pure form, said not to be found in airplane manufacture, perhaps, I wouldn't rule it out/in. Further, "GreyCopGC148" left out an explanation for all the other particles found on the tie, my suspect has an explanation for all the identified particles found,, Clearly, all suspects are circumstantial until evidence puts him on the plane,, My suspect has the best circumstantial case that i have seen, I have tried to rule him out but can't YET, though I did uncover the existence of a "personal" document that I am very confident I will obtain, so hopefully fingerprints and possible DNA will rule him in or out,,, but that may depend on what the FBI REALLY has,,, BTW.. I was at the Washington Museum Saturday symposium for the Cooper discussion and neither myself nor my suspect is American... and I have not, will not read any Cooper books, I wanted to look at this fresh and objective.. Here is what I have, in general, yes it is circumstantial, I have been trying eliminate him ever since I matched his photo to the Cooper sketch.. NOT US resident re "negotiable American currency" (controversial) Aviation experience/knowledge/interest World traveller WW2 experience in Europe The particles found on the tie are a match YES a match, all of them Age, mid to late 40's in 1971 I used Adobe software to transition an obtained photo of suspect at about age 65-75 with the Cooper sketch, it is an amazing match. The position of eyes, jawline, ears, forehead, hairline, everything lines up EXACTLY.. His hair is a bit odd looking, natural but may be mistaken as a toupee Always wore a tie "Dan Cooper", has proven exposure to the name, but it is not his name NOT swarthy, though that witness sitting near him denied swarthiness.. (recent audio interview) Somewhat effeminate, meek character Works under pressure Multilingual Raleigh's perhaps from Europe WW2 military exposure.. Found evidence that he may have been at the north end of the Bridge of the Gods, a possible escape route,,, Lack of money found circulating,, taken outside US immediately, (I wonder if it could be traced in the banking system if spent outside the US in the 1970's) So, interesting, worth pursuing or not... I have a "blended' image between the Cooper sketch and my suspect that is UNBELIEVABLE, but I am reluctant to let it get into the public sphere at this early stage,,,

Sorry...I've just gotta say (and I'm not singling anyone out)...I've been following the thread for three years. I don't post for two reasons: 1. I don't have anything substantive to offer in the way of new info and/or leads. 2. This forum truly has devolved into childish bickering and in-fighting. I, for one, am sick of it. Can you guys please stop bashing each other and return to a dialog more centrally focused on solving this thing, once-and-for-all? Us non-posters would appreciate it, and might even have something to contribute. Many thanks. PS there is more "genuine interest" than you expect. exactly, I was thinking of posting a similar comment with one exception,, I have an extremely strong NEW theory and "suspect" that I have been vetting for a few years now, right down to a match for particles on the tie, but the childish and toxic environment here ends any thought of a serious discussion..