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FBI,, Sketch B is the best likeness.. Catalano's nose is wider than Sketch B.. Murphy was liked and shown to witnesses many months before sketch B was started and matches sketch B extremely well... Sketch A not so much...

The classic claim that keeps getting repeated as fact over and over without any evidence or analysis... People hear it and just repeat it because it sounds good. That is.. Cooper demanded to go to Mex City only to get the plane heading south (a ruse) and chose the longest route to give him the most time after he jumps. Cooper never demanded to fly directly to Mex City, he said no landing in US for fuel or anything else, can land anywhere in Mexico. So, his range demand was actually just Mexico not Mexico City. Cooper must have believed the plane could make it to Mexico when he made the demand. Nobody is going to make a demand that they knew was not achievable and would be rejected. So, the ruse idea makes no sense. Since Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight and he gave no directions/instructions, he was going to give that later in the air and that means he could have directed the plane to almost anywhere. When Reno was in play he changed his plan and that caused him jump earlier than he had planned.

Ryan is throwing up a straw-man,, although being wrong is too common for him it isn't the issue. Ryan lies, distorts, smears and just makes up stuff about those who have a different conclusion... to discredit others who turn out to be right. He just claimed I was making up stuff,, he was lying. I was not and I was correct.. He lies to win an argument... Unfortunately people with less case knowledge defer to his opinions,, most are bad. I really don't care if he is wrong or if he admits it or not,,, in fact, I prefer he remains wrong... I just can't strand a liar.

See, that is fascinating about the difference between mains and a bailout rig.. Cooper asked for mains.. He jumps with a bailout rig and that isn't ideal. That indicates Cooper wasn't a very experienced jumper.. some jump experience but no expert like say Braden. For Hayden's rig my point was the counter to Cossey obtaining Hayden's rig,, he didn't and it doesn't make sense that he would procure bailout rigs and fronts that couldn't be used. The guys who got the Hayden's rigs didn't realize they were bailout rigs... and yes it seems unbelievable that Emerick didn't know that one was a dummy reserve.. I bet he knew but assumed it wouldn't be used so it didn't matter, then later later claimed ignorance. Lots of jumpers have said easy jump no problem they'd do it... but would they jump at night in a bailout rig... that is another level... which makes me think Cooper didn't actually realize it was a bailout rig.. an experienced jumper would have rejected them and demanded mains.

Just can't help yourself.. You are a liar,,, it doesn't get lower than that.

Cossey didn't tell them to call Boeing Field... he had nothing to with obtaining Hayden's rigs. He lied to Tosaw in a CYA move. The obvious problem is Hayden's rigs did not have D rings yet they still supplied the fronts.. doesn't make sense. I bet Cossey's rigs had D rings because Emerick was to grab fronts and backs.. My question is really about how distinguishable a main from a bailout rig is without opening it.. for Cooper. Would he know it was bailout rig and not a main. Did Cooper know or should have reasonably known he was jumping with a bailout rig and not a main that he requested.

You are wrong.. like many things in this case. All you have are baseless assumptions... that block your own thinking.

Ryan, full of more lies,,, that is your MO.. smear people who actually know more than you.. disgusting. You accuse of making up stuff which is exactly what you are doing... making up stuff. I am not inventing anything, Emerick explained this in an interview... He was to grab all 4 then was told told to send only the fronts.. Cossey was contacted and told them to get the chute from Issaquah.. Is there any end to you misinformation and false accusations. I think you need a new hobby.. you aren't good at this. "Arrangements for the parachutes were conducted by an official from Northwest Orient, named George Harrison in the official documents. Harrison knew to call Pacific Aviation at the nearby Boeing Field because they sold acrobatic airplanes and according to FAA regulations acrobatic pilots and their passengers had to wear parachutes, so he knew that Pacific Aviation would have a couple available. However, when Harrison called Pacific Aviation he spoke with Barry, a sales manager there, and learned that they had only conical “seat packs’ and not the “back parachutes” demanded by Cooper. Hence, Halstad recommended to Harrison that he contact one of Pacific Aviation’s recent customers, Norman Hayden, who had two back parachutes and was located not too far away in Kent, Washington, about ten miles away." https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/

Tosaw book,, Florence.. Cooper was threatening to touch the wire to the battery terminal..

yes, I've heard that before,, I am not referring to that. That is likely revisionism from Cossey. Cossey said he was contacted after the plane landed.. I know he might be lying but we don't know for sure.. The files only have that Cossey in person meeting with the FBI,, that can't be the first contact with him.. they had to have contacted him to set up the meeting at least. This is why you get so many things wrong.. it is legitimate and necessary to use assumptions to build theories that get tested.. but you use assumptions to build conclusions that get expressed as fact.. Cossey told them to get all 4 chutes from Emerick at Issaquah. Emerick was contacted and told they only needed the fronts, they had secured the backs from Hayden.. but Cossey didn't know that until later. He had assumed his back chutes were taken from Issaquah and given to Cooper. Clearly, at some point he learned of his error.. when is the key. When he learned that Hayden's backs were used not his he wove Hayden into his narrative. That is why Cossey's description doesn't match Hayden's or the packing cards, he was describing his chute. So, he never corrected the record and did not supply his records which would expose his error. Cossey lied to Tosaw..

No it isn't, Cossey said he was contacted and he must have been contacted before his in person meeting with the FBI.. Not even close.

Williams and Lysne are just not reliable. They were not aware of the hijacker and said they not sure they could recognize him if seen again. The Cooper case has a small sample size.. these are recall estimates, nobody measured Cooper's height. Four male passengers had Cooper 5'9" - 5'10" seated.. Men are better at sizing up other males that women are. Just because he was seated doesn't mean they were all wrong. The FBI used 5'8" as the lower bound probably because reported heights are not accurate in shoes or boots... self reported heights are almost always low.

Sure, everybody prefer's.. but absence of evidence is NOT evidence.. Many times you claim something ISN'T true or CANNOT be true because it isn't in the files and would be if true.. This is not rational. I notice it is a recurring flaw in your logic.

Cossey said he was contacted,,, he had to have been before his in person meeting with the FBI.. We don't have the exact time/day but it had to have been before that meeting.. Cossey didn't just show up at the FBI office. You always make this error.. you assume that if something is NOT in the FBI files it didn't happen... But Gregory was not the drunk... I believe he was in row 16 aisle seat.. the FBI would have noticed if he was the drunk. It is not deductive reasoning when you have the facts wrongs.

FBI.. 5'8" height is not sufficient to eliminate a suspect. FBI searched Elsinore records from 5'8"

No, Gregory was not the obnoxious drunk... Ryan us using wild speculation and misunderstanding the evidence. Gregory sat in the aisle seat, he said he believed row 18 but it was likely 16 and alone in that row... not 17. but, he never moved up when the passengers were asked. Mitchell said the drunk moved up. Further, the key passengers were interviewed that night, they would have noticed a drunk.. No, Gregory was not the drunk. Ryan doesn't know what he is talking about and misleading everyone again. The evidence shows Gregory was not the drunk...

A single breasted overcoat unbuttoned worn loosely should expose the suit lapel's.. Some overcoats are worn with arms not in sleeves.. just over the shoulders.. Sitting in a plane, how would he have worn it?? loose, over shoulders?? But we don't know enough about that overcoat/topcoat/raincoat,,, did he ever remove it, did he put on the chute with an overcoat on??

Cooper was wearing a skinny tie and small collared shirt, both out of style.. However, his suit had wide lapels.. in style, just barely.. Most of the 50's and 60's suits were small lapel's.. Cooper's suit was either a year old or from the 40's/early 50's.. In the 50's besides small lapel's suits became patterned, more colourful and textured... 60's were small lapel. Most likely it was old,, late 40's era and not nearly new.

G, the reference was the other test, the Boeing test in the 60's when they only opened the airstairs in flight... no weight, not the sled test.

Doc, Doc, Doc... I am compiling all this stiff right now... The Boeing test did not have a person on the stairs or jumping.. they only lowered the stairs. They wouldn't have open very far with no weight on them, no pitch, bump, oscillations. This can't be compared to a jumper.. their weight pushing stairs down and releasing. Rataczak was told to expect a pitch and there was.. The 8:09 little bob on the FDR was Cooper getting to the bottom of the stairs, maximizing drag with his weight opening the stairs.. the stairs were opened earlier but not opened as far with much less drag and no pitch. Pitch was caused by Cooper at the bottom of stairs not when stairs cracked open earlier. The FDR mark indicates Cooper was at the bottom at 8:09, no later marks. If this mark was not Cooper maximizing drag then what was it and wouldn't there be another mark later. The only question is how long was he at the bottom of stairs from 8:09 before jumping.... causing the physical bump. expect a slight pitch..

Ryan doesn't know what he is talking about.... go ahead explain Ryan's argument,, it is a blend of opinion, ignorance and misinformation. Not that you should agree that he was Cooper.. but Ryan's argument doesn't eliminate him

I think Randy233 is claiming he wasn't Cooper because he smokes one brand.

This is the typical analysis by Ryan... completely wrong and disastrous for this case. He jumps to conclusions, makes assumptions then attacks me from a position of ignorance.. then I have to respond to his misinformation. The FBI file said missing several upper side teeth.. It took me years to get to the bottom of it and it turns out it is not dispositive at all. Notice he attacks me personally,, and he actually doesn't know the facts. He was missing two upper bicuspids, (down the side), one person out of 50 noticed it and it is common for people with braces, it was unbelievable that the person even noticed it. I have an image of his front upper teeth and they look normal.. Ryan recently lied and said he was missing half his teeth.. then upper and lower, both false. Why, to discredit me and support his own bias. This is why I have no respect for Ryan's analysis he has run this playbook many times,, it is amateur research and bad for the case. Ryan is not a serious person. He won't change.

Bla, Bla Bla,, Same made up nonsense... heard it all before. You do have a strange fixation.. it is irrational. You cherry pick the low level arguments for sketch A and COMPLETELY ignore the important ones. You don't even acknowledge anything that contradicts A.. You clearly have a bias. Ultimately, sketch A is your opinion and you can have it.. but, your reasoning is incomplete and flawed. Same with Skip, Orchards, Cooper's height, Cunningham's map, Cossey's NB6... low level thinking. This case is saturated with that. You stick with sketch A and all these other things... you will get nowhere and mislead many people.. All I ask is for you to stop lying about me and be accurate with the case evidence. Is that too much.

You are making it up Ryan, you keep lying about me and if you keep doing it you will regret it.. Clearly, you need to lie because you have no arguments. I am not talking about trash talk, you are a Professional and it is beneath you. Georger accused me of getting run off DZ,, my father had suddenly died and I dropped out for while... you accuse me of running away, my step brother suddenly died in an accident. So, you are a liar,, you are making up stuff to try to discredit me because you are incapable of formulating a rational argument. You are trying to smear with complete fabrications. You are acting like a child not a professional lawyer..