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Cooper wasn't a Yakima Indian. Yes, white/caucasians do lose their dark olive complexion if not exposed to strong sun,,, are there exceptions, sure. But we get nowhere elevating the exceptions. Research dark olive complexion, it comes from the sun, it is a tan.. The witnesses are actually seeing Cooper's tan, it is just dark olive and not the reddish bronze for most people. I guess it depends on what you call dark olive. If people said Cooper was white/caucasian with a (regular) tan we would have no disagreement. No tan in the PNW in November. It is a tan, my impression is that it was noticeably dark for a white/caucasian. The sketch is not dark olive,, that may be because if it was not permanent the sketch would be misleading.. and it is hard to get it accurate. I believe a white/caucasian with a dark olive complexion is far more likely from a tan than being permanent.

Yeah, not necessarily. Those are more "native" names or 1st generation. Cooper was described as White/Caucasian with dark olive complexion. That could be latin American or Mediterranean decent.. or a mixed race.

Don't understand your argument. Not all Latin appearing people have Latin names.. many don't. Maybe you are thinking "latin appearance" means something more specific.

Sure, we can infer it... it isn't 100% but it is a strong likelihood. Cooper was described as dark/olive/swarthy and Latin appearance.. that is caused by the sun, they get dark quickly when exposed to strong sun, that is their genetic trait. The witnesses noticed it so it had to be obvious (other than Mitchell). Cooper was a Caucasian with a dark olive complexion. That is a reaction to the sun. It is a suntan. They do go lighter when not exposed and darker in the strong sun.. people are not exposed to strong sun in November in the PNW. I have pics of Hahneman and he is dark others looks light,, Skip has pics where he looks light. Dark olive complexion is a suntan. Two of my friends growing up, one is Italian and one Greek,, their parents moved here. So, legitimately Mediterranean. Both got noticeably dark olive in the summer sun, very fast.

Huh...

Yes, you can. I live in the PNW,, in November it is mostly cloudy and rainy and on the odd sunny day the sun is very weak. Temps are very rarely freezing. People do not tan at that time unless they are up in the freezing snowy mountains. You can argue Cooper was climbing on the top of Mount Baker in November and got a snowburn but that is another example of using an extreme outlier.. it is possible but extremely unlikely. So, unless Cooper was skiing or ice climbing recently in the PNW, he was not from the PNW. With a very high probability Cooper was not in the PNW for very long before the hijacking. He obtained his recent dark/olive complexion elsewhere. This is how you have to evaluate the evidence when you don't have 100% facts.. If you emphasize a rare possibility, you get nowhere and go in circles. You can always find an exception to anything. Beyesian analysis and probabilities is the only way to move forward.. Portland average high November 53F average low 40F average snowfall 0

It suggests that Cooper was recently in a strong sunny climate in November... that is not the PNW. I assume he chose that flight, just that he was not local or at least not recently. Point is, his dark/olive "tan" would not have been caused by the PNW climate November 24. It was likely obtained elsewhere.

In the FBI files there were suggestions to target "Latin" groups but no follow ups in the files so far... The FBI did use Latin/Olive when screening suspects. Doing some research on dark olive complexion, they turn dark olive quickly when exposed to sun, a tanning process. The PNW in November is NOT a sunny environment which indicates that Cooper being dark/olive was likely NOT from the PNW.

I call it the "elephant in the room" because many people even high profile Cooper researchers try to dismiss, diminish or even ignore it. This blindspot has gone on for years. Clearly, he is a Caucasian with a Latin/Olive/Swarthy appearance.. one of the best clues we have.

Elephant in the room,,,

Since Cooper jumped with a back reserve and would not have had an accurate take on the wind his drift was up to potentially about 5 miles, depending on his pull elevation. A 5 mile drift makes the potential LZ 78.53982 sq. miles. Almost 80 sq miles is massive. We have a wind estimate and can reduce that to maybe a third but Cooper likely wouldn't have known that when he jumped. That indicates Cooper did not jump to a specific pre-determined area. It was random or ad hoc. There was no precision involved. Cooper did not jump to an accomplice.. Cooper did not know where the plane was going to be. IMO, his initial plan was not to jump in the PNW.. he jumped early to avoid being on the plane in Reno. A question for jumper's.. Cooper asked for mains but received back reserves, he looked over the chutes and chose the newer "military" one.. Would an experienced jumper be able to tell that they were reserves? Would an experienced guy like Braden know or check that they were mains? Does the fact that Cooper jumped with a back reserve after inspecting the chutes tell us anything about him or his experience?

Uranium and Thorium aren't that rare and were in many things in the late 60's. Death, taxes and random Cooper tie theories...

It's official,, Skip Hall is the new Duane Weber,,, The Forrest Gump of Cooper suspects...

Good job Ryan,, You have slightly walked back the previous certainty claim of an Orchards jump.. smart move. Cooper jumped at 8:11, give or take few seconds. Something that has been overlooked even by most experts... Cooper asked for fronts and backs, that is a front reserve and back main.. He received a front dummy, front reserve and two back reserves.. not mains. So, he did not receive what he had requested or expected. I assume he did not know that he jumped with a back reserve, unlikely, they are designed to reliably open and get you to the ground... they are not steerable. Experts say easy jump no problem they would do it,, but would they do it with a back reserve??? You land where the drift takes you, in a wet PNW night.. Jumping in those conditions with a main is brave or stupid, jumping with a reserve is crazy.. A reserve is more reliable but not controllable. That raises the likelihood of Cooper landing under canopy but also raises the potential for a hard landing and injury. Point is, he effectively asked for a main but jumped with a back reserve.

Back to Cooper... I have a new working theory about TBAR.. something to think about. What if the dredge layer below the money identified by Palmer was not the 1974 layer but a pre-NORJAK dredge layer.. Willow Bar dredging frequency was 4x out of 5 years prior to 1972. I recall reading about TBAR dredge deposits prior to NORJAK.. Not all would be deposited on TBAR,, but if we assume that layer was pre-NORJAK it makes more sense. The money would have been below the 1974 layer which would have been eroded away in the 6 years to 1980 exposing the money at the surface.. There was no added material after 1974.. that extended time would maximize erosion. If the money was on top of the 1974 dredge why did it take 6 years to expose it,, doesn't really make sense. If that 1974 dredge was on top of the money it rationalizes the money being covered in 1974 and in place for many years until 6 years of erosion exposed it.. I like it.. it makes more sense.

Wrong. I wasn't trying to hide my identity,, I intentionally chose something obvious that wasn't my real name. I hate FB and its data collection scam. Lots of people don't use their real names on FB,,

I still don't agree, Ulis blocked me but you played a role in it,, that is what I said. Maybe it wasn't your intention to get me blocked but I believe your actions did play a role in it. Look, I don't care about FB..

Well, we have latin appearance and characteristics..... That is consistent with curly/wavy/marceled/dark hair and dark "possibly piercing" eyes, olive/dark/swarthy complexion... no behaviours or genetics.. though he did request to go Mexico,,

I didn't say you blocked me, I said you got me blocked... and I still believe you played a role in it. But,, I don't care about FB.. I care about misinformation getting spread unchallenged and I saw lots of it there.

No, it is not a lie.. more misinformation from you as usual. Not your group, the DB Cooper Mystery Group.. you got me blocked, you asked me to join the we got in a scrap here and I got blocked... I never posted anything there. Nobody cares about your small group. I don't care what you think of Hahneman.. you are irrelevant.. it makes you feel better attacking him but you are completely wrong about everything.. it is clear your ability to present evidence accurately and assess it is abysmal... you just lie and I don't want to waste time defending the facts to a liar. I would if I thought you were honest.. but you aren't. I prefer you to keep advancing your delusional false narratives and leading people astray. So, keep going..

Nobody said Latino.. I avoid that term because it wasn't really used in 1971 as it is today. That applies today's context into 1971... probably why most don't get the Caucasian and Latin thing.. and you don't know it is false because you don't know what the witnesses said to the FBI. You argued in the past that we have all the witness 302's so Tina didn't claim Cooper had stained fingers, nice to see you have changed that stance.. hard to keep up with your shifting arguments.. Nothing is as dishonest as shifting your argument to fit the subject. But,, what I take exception with is when you lie and spread FALSE information to discredit me... here and in your videos. You never owned it or corrected it. Dude, you lied. You made provably FALSE claims... Repeatedly, and just ignore it. The result is YOU have disseminated FALSE information and it isn't minor stuff. You did it to discredit me and it forces me to correct the record,, but you had me removed from the FB group even though I never posted anything ever.. YOU are lucky I am not on there. Meanwhile, you and your buddies alter the map evidence, push and defend a terrible suspect like Vordahl or Skip (0% chance, WHO HAS TWO BIG GROWTHS ON HIS FACE, a facial scar, a crooked eyebrow plus massive wrinkles), and bad ideas presented as facts polluting the case with nonsense. You have Skip scoring at #1 on your unexplained and (un)biased matrix... People actually believe Cunningham's screwed up map is legit and you say nothing but "I defer to Cunningham the path expert". You are enabling completely falsified crucial evidence to enter the case. Most people don't have the case knowledge to recognize it as FALSE. You do, but say nothing. Why, because you put friends over truth... and you keep claiming it is now known that Cooper jumped at Orchards and the FBI admits it... complete nonsense. You have burned up your credibility with me.. I am not really interested in discussing anything with people who lie or just shift arguments to fit the subject and apply selective criticism. IMO, you do bring in new people, not necessarily a good thing.. but are a net negative for advancing this case, you enable bad research, bad ideas, misinformation and endless rabbit holes. Most FB people are in this for the social aspect, I get that, that is fine but I am not. I am trying to solve this thing. YOU are taking this case backwards and on net have not added anything substantive to solving it. You pushed/defended,, Vordahl, Ti REMCRU (metallurgy), Skip, sketch A, Orchards, Bump vs Oscillation delay, Cunningham's altered map, Gunther fraud, TBAR hand burial and Cossey's unreliable claims... probably more that I have forgotten. A large portion of the public falsely believes Skip was Cooper, he jumped with an NB6 at Orchards and buried the money at TBAR... congrats, you win the social game go sell some books. Don't worry, few read the DZ so nobody on FB will even notice you lied..

Maybe, maybe not.. We don't know everything the witnesses said. I know you think you have every witness description in the 302's but I know for fact you don't. Extraction isn't really the right term,,, "Latin appearance" is. But you will need to take any confusion about Cooper's appearance up with the FBI. Virtually every FBI description uses "latin"... that isn't a mistake. White/Caucasian... plus Swarthy/Latin/Olive/Dark/Mexican, which are similar descriptions by witnesses and are virtually interchangeable and are really different ways to describe a perceived characteristic. Not that Cooper was necessarily Latin extraction but definitely latin appearance. This is one of the few solid and most important pieces of evidence in this case. I have called it the elephant in the room... if you can't see it you can't see anything. I think Edwards doesn't understand that many Latin Americans were mixed race and called Caucasian. Cooper was Caucasian with Latin appearance. Simple. Artist conception.. and virtually every Cooper description from the FBI has it..

JACKPOT,, FBI part 102 and 103 are up.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper ?b_start:int=80

Strictly, SWARTHY means dark or olive skin... Practically, it means a dark/olive skinned Caucasian. That is why most said Caucasian/white and Dark/Olive/Swarthy.. The FBI did not invent it, it accurately describes almost all witness observations. Most witnesses also described Cooper as "Latin", which is also consistent... Cooper's appearance and features were a Latin, olive/dark/swarthy caucasian... Further research,, swarthy is generally Caucasian people who tan to dark/olive very fast in the sun. My analysis.. Cooper's complexion was dark on November 24.. He was not from the PNW.

I feel like we are getting punked.... the case is going backwards not forwards. Too many opinions presented as facts, not enough focus. Some recent things heard in the Vortex… Sketch A is better than B. False - Murphy Cooper had a small skinny nose. False Cooper was Caucasian not swarthy. False, can be both Cooper jumped at Orchards, the FBI confirmed it. Provably false Cossey’s NB6 parachute description is accurate. False, no corroboration and many conflicts The tie was worn at Union Carbide. Conjecture Cooper was 6’ tall, not under 5’10”. False, unknown. FBI used 5'8" as the lower bound. The TBAR money was human buried. Extremely unlikely. Cunningham’s revised flightpath times. Provably false The distributed ransom list was non-sequential. False it was re-ordered alpha-numeric Braden was Cooper. False Cooper had Skip Hall's obvious and severely wrinkled forehead. False, no witness ever mentioned it. Vordahl was Cooper. False My uncle was Cooper. False My dad was Cooper. Nonsense Cooper was a pilot. Conjecture, aviation experience but not necessarily a pilot Cooper’s initial demand was aistairs lowered on takeoff. False, initial demand was airstairs lowered inflight. The Hick's type placard was still attached to NORJAK. False, NORJAK never had that placard. It has a different one (wording). No letter's were from Cooper. Conjecture