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Icing is rarely found over 20k. It requires specific conditions for its creation. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Your thoughts are understood, but my intention was to discuss General Aviation pitfalls. Therefore, curiousity about icing is quite valid. Icing will often keep planes from flying. Yes, he may have INTENDED to fly VFR, but conditions can change, especially given the meteorological conditions present two nights ago south of Mount Rainier. Now, as per my original question, thank you to those who have posted and are helping me make sense of this. I have read through numerous months of FAA stats this summer and am amazed at the number of plane crashes that occur annually. I also realize that as more planes fly and I know/care about more people, I'll have to deal with this situation more than I care to. But, I feel the same way about cars and the same way about cancer. Any other wise observations regarding general aviation? I'm all ears. (and a big stomach knot) Lena Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Thanks, karen. I love that man! So many smiles, and always the absolute BEST attitude. Next time you visit lost prairie, know that the "new" white door on the south side of our hangar was put there by Phil. hugs Phil! Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Phil was pkibler. You'll see posts by him on our Montana plane crash thread from May 12th... :( Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

It's just my opinion and experience. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Can anyone tell me (with reasonable evidence) if skydiving is seeing a higher occurrence of plane crash related deaths this year than normal, or is this a sort of "typical" year (which just happens to affect me A LOT.) ??? Thanks, guys, just feeling a little shorted these days... Lena Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

I thought about this a bit, too, but you must realize, if the pilot was doing his best, but still diving fast, no one could have exited, the force is too great. aaahh poop. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Here's a picture of Phil, the pilot, a good friend of mine. He was our "local" pilot last summer at Skydive Lost Prairie. (here he is pictured with our plane, 71T, which crashed in May). So sad kids. I've lost too many friends and family this year... Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

His Obituary from Helena, MT. Rob M. Rogers Rob M. Rogers, 34 years old, went to be with the Lord on Sept. 18, 2007. Born on July 11, 1973, in Helena, Rob lived most of his life in Montana, but had been living in Belen, N.M., for the last two and a half years to be close to his son, Robert "Scott" Rogers. Rob graduated from Capital High in 1991, and followed in his dad's and gramp's footsteps becoming a well respected journeyman ironworker. He was full of natural talent and was exceptional at whatever he chose to do. Rob was also known for his gentle and generous spirit and love for extreme sports, especially skydiving. Rob moved from a novice skydiver to a tandem instructor at Skydive Lost Prairie near Kalispell. There was nowhere else in the world Rob would rather be than at "The Prairie," where he was fortunate to make several life long friends. His son, Scott, accompanied him to Lost Prairie from the time he was an infant and could recognize his daddy in the air. Rob valued his family and the sense of connection he had with them. He was especially proud to be Scott's dad and an ironworker like his dad and gramp. In his short life, Rob suffered severely for over a decade from the incurable diseases of alcoholism and depression despite many attempts to overcome the torment. He genuinely loved the Lord, his son, mom, dad, and other family and friends, but the grip and destruction of alcoholism overwhelmed him in the end. Rob is survived by his 6-year-old son, Scott, in Los Lunas, N.M.; his dad, Rob C. Rogers, and his wife, Celeste, of Helena; his mom, Susan Williams, and her husband, Dan, of Sand Point, Alaska; sister, Teresa Royer, and her husband, Mark, and children, Jada, Makeya, and Roystan, of Kotzebue, Alaska; and his "most special" brother of whom he wrote poetry, Bryce Rogers, living in Sand Point; a grandmother, Yvonne Borgmann, also survives him along with many aunts, uncles, cousins and friends. Cremation has taken place and a private memorial service will take place at a later date. Express condolences at www.legacy.com/HelenaIR/. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

I can't say for certain, guys, sorry. I wish I could. All I know is that he passed on the 18th and that he was having a tough time emotionally those days. I do not believe it to be suicide, but honestly do not know. I just try to bring myself peace by telling myself that he hurts and worries no more, and hopefully he can watch over his son without court interference now. Although it sometimes gives us understanding to know the "how," let's just love his memory and be glad for the time we had with him. All he ever wanted was love. He surely had mine. blue... Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

:) I always loved Rob's eyes. So much love in that boy... Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

you're damned straight we will! (what the hell does that mean, anyway?) miss my byron boys... kisses to all of you (payment in full next visit ;P) Lena Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

as posted at http://www.news-bulletin.com/obits/default.html Robert M. Rogers 1973-2007 Robert M. Rogers, age 34, a resident of Los Chavez, and formerly of Helena, Mon.,, passed away at his home on Tuesday, Sept. 18. He was a member of the Calvary Chapel Rio Grande Valley in Belen, a third generation Union Iron Worker and a member of the USPA. Robert loved sky diving and was a tandem instructor. Although sky diving was his passion, he also enjoyed mountain climbing and especially loved riding bikes with his son, Scott. He loved children of all ages and had many friends who loved him. Robert was dedicated to help bring young adults to the Lord. The most important thing Robert loved was spending time with his son, Scott, age 6, and his brother, Bryce Rogers, age 29, of Sand Point, Alaska. He also wrote beautiful poetry, which touched the souls of those he wrote it for. Robert is survived by his son, Robert Scott Rogers; his father, Robert Rogers and his wife, Celeste, of Helena, Mont.; his mother, Susan Williams and her husband, Dan, of Sand Point, Alaska; one brother, Bryce Rogers also of Sand Point, Alaska; one sister, Teresa Royer and her husband, Mark, two nieces, Jada and Makeya, and one nephew, Roystan Royer, all of Katzebue, Alaska. Cremation has taken place. A memorial service will be held on Sunday, Sept. 23, at the home of Eddie and Linda Bunch. His remains will then be taken by his father, Robert Rogers back to his family home in Helena, Mont. Sign Robert's online register book at www.romerofuneralhomenm.com. Romero Funeral Home, 609 N. Main St., Belen. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Thanks for the excellent Rob story and the beautiful picture of Rob and Scotty. Here's a great picture of Rob, Fred and I that I referred to earlier. So much love. dear Lord let there be peace for him beyond this life. xoxo. Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Wish we did, MadJohn. I haven't been in the sky since I made my 302nd on the last day of the boogie (boy, we were tired, eh?) I'm definitely itchin' to jump, I tell ya. Mikey and I might have to scoot over the Shelton just to do a couple... So sad, I MUST jump in Byron one day soon! (If I can swing it, and we can travel down in the winter, would you guys still let me run around in bumper stickers?) Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Dear Friends, Lost Prairie weeps tonight as we learn of another family member who has passed. Our beloved brother, Rob Rogers (who I had the fortune of riding as his certifying tandem passenger twice, skinny dipped in a local pond with, and so much more) passed away this past week. I do not have many details, but know he was not skydiving at the time. He had injured his knees several years back and had not jumped much in the past few. He has been living in New Mexico near his son. Please post happy memories of Rob. Pictures are great. If I can find the one of him, Fred, and I after a frozen MacGregor Lake jump from 2003, I'll be sure to post it. He, and David Landeck, were my two true brothers in this sport. They are the two whose memories fill my first summer of jumping. This has been a sad year. Stay safe friends, Rob, hug David and Joel for me. (and Mack, Monty, Tommy, and Jean-Guy, too). Love, Lena Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

Don't worry guys, it won't be windy 'cause we can't come after all. (no $$). And I even down-sized! so sad... someone needs to run around naked for me... Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

you know, the request to have a friend purchase one is a nice one, and it really would be a shame to have this year IN PARTICULAR be the one WITHOUT a quality video. Tod, any thoughts on a little memoir of Joel and David? We have the footage... Lena Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

interesting sandwich you have going on there. Where's the whipped cream???? Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

yeah, no doubt... Mikey and I are packing for the trip already! Sheesh (we're going to SOMEONE ELSE'S BOOGIE! do you all believe it???? Naked & Dressed NWFlyer Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

hey, if you guys see my hubby there, take out for a fun jump or two! he's helping Kelly at VSE for a few more days... ;) Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

hey, I was second in for that 9-way speed star competition! much improved from taking Chandoline out in the 15-way the year before! ;) Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

I'm glad you guys were there, it's always great to see such a fabulous family! Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

did you like that? I thought it'd be clever... haha Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com

(me, too) Once you visit Skydive Lost Prairie Your heart will never leave. Boogie with us... www.skydivelostprairie.com