olemisscub

No doubt this one is more your speed

Your mutual foray into dumping on me is transparent to literally everyone. If both of your suspects had a smaller nose or looked more like Comp A than Comp B, neither of you would be saying a damn thing to me about it. Everyone can see it. I couldn't care less whether the evidence led me to conclude that Cooper had a small nose or if it led me to conclude that his nose looked like it had been smashed with a frying pan like Reca's nose. What agenda could I possibly have other than it just being my genuine opinion? This attack on me is so transparent. You two are foot stomping and gnashing teeth and tearing your clothes because what I'm saying goes against your suspect and for no other reason. Remarkable that I don't get any pushback from either of you on my belief that Cooper needs to look ethnic. It's only on things about his physical description that go against your suspect. I wonder why that it is...

Nope. I vociferously begged for mercy from you already. Timestamped:

Not many. McCoy, of course, was a pilot. Frank Sibley was an actual 727 pilot. Those are the only ones I can think of. That profile is mostly OK, but it gets quite a few things wrong fwiw, is sometimes contradictory, and goes against what the FBI themselves stated that they believed on a few occasions. It says Cooper didn't offer to tip the stews with ransom money, but used his own money. We know that's not true. It says Cooper smoke eight cigarettes in eight hours. Cooper had seven cigarettes and was only on the plane for just over five hours. They extrapolate that he was a one-pack a day smoker because of this. They're neglecting that he actually smoked all seven in under three hours. There is no indication that he was smoking at any point after they landed in Seattle. It says he jumped with the dummy chute and they imply he should have known it was a dummy chute if he knew parachutes, yet I think it's reasonable and safe to say that he did not jump with the dummy chute intending for it be a reserve chute. The FBI themselves state elsewhere that they think he just tossed it out of the back. It says he became "somewhat childish in his actions and comments while counting the money." Yet Tina says Cooper never counted the money and also I think they are taking Flo's "childish" comment out of context. It says that he was not an experienced criminal because of how he acted when he received the ransom money but then it says he exhibited an "unusually calm manner throughout the whole hijacking." It says that the hijacker was "not well prepared for the hijacking", but makes no mention of the mystery bag being a foil to such an idea. It says that the hijacker engaged in a small argument with one of the passengers. Not true. A few weeks ago I asked John Douglas if they ever had him create a Cooper profile and he said he didn't. Would have been interesting to see his. Although honestly, Cooper's profile is just really hard to pin down given how little he said, how few people saw him, and what he left behind.

Pop the champagne. We agree on something. Joseph Henry Johnston is probably the closest template for Cooper out there IMO. And no it's not Frank. I don't think this new suspect is Cooper, but the researcher has put a lot of effort into him, so I'll be glad to support his suspect reveal. This suspect is the closest match to Bing I've ever seen. I didn't think it was possible to get someone to be a closer match to Bing than Burnworth, but here we are.

Don't want to lead you astray here. In videos I'm not always able to articulate my thoughts fully or I say things rather clumsily. There is an FBI profile created by Charlie Farrell in 72. I've got an entire chapter in my book devoted to the Farrell/Cooper profile. I'll link Farrell's profile in full below. What I was meaning in the video is that there is no agreed upon profile of Cooper among the Cooper "community" when analyzing suspects, nor is there anything remotely close. Cooper is a bit of a Rorschach test when it comes to suspects. You can interpret the evidence in any way you see fit in order to shoehorn a particular suspect into being Cooper. This is the great difficulty with Cooper. There is some evidence that could lead you to think he's super smart and also evidence that could make you think he's a bumbling crook. He's a true enigma. A good example of this is that I wouldn't fall out of my chair if I found out that a brilliant guy like Roman was the hijacker but I also wouldn't fall out of my chair if it turned out that some dope like LD Cooper was the hijacker. I've gone back and forth many times and what I expect Cooper to be, but my current understanding of the case makes me lean toward him just being a low-rent crook with a capacity for divergent thinking and a big set of balls. I do think he had some sort of aviation background though. We can see with Paul Cini what it looks like when someone without an aviation background tries to do this. It's ugly. As for other profiles of Cooper, the one suggested by Dr. David Hubbard, author of “The Skyjacker”, isn't bad. He was a psychologist who interviewed close to one hundred hijackers during the 1960’s and 1970’s. Hubbard’s experience and training led him to assess Cooper's profile thusly: “As an individual, he was a personal failure who had lost the capability of earning a living in our society. In actual fact, Cooper was an early middle-aged mentally deteriorated ex-aircraft pilot. He had flown in the Vietnam War, and undoubtedly had taken part in the airdrops in which the tailgate of a 727 was used for dropping materiel." Not sure I agree with him about Cooper having flown in Vietnam (he seems a little old for that), but the rest is pretty close. Cooper-Profile.pdf

Precisely. Flyjack could have been the Michael Jordan of some sport or competition if he focused his pathological competitiveness on something else besides Cooper.

I've never called anyone a POI. They're suspects as far as I'm concerned. And there's no "real evidence" for ANYONE in this case. If there were, they'd probably be Cooper.

Yes, and what was the point of it? You were trying to find something else about Hall. You were going to claim that his hair was too thin to be Cooper. But then I PROVED that his hair was thin by choice in that photo. Now you're crying about it.

Nope. You proved nothing of the sort. You provided more webpages of just people in the modern era referencing it. I wanted contemporary sources.

I don't have a responsibility to do anything regarding this goofy notion of yours.

Yep. Not enough to eliminate him. The fact that this is all you have on Hall shows his strength as a suspect. Dave is bitching about people not attacking Skip. Well...what is there really to attack him on? I think his nose is somewhat too large for my liking and he doesn't look homely. Sure, when he raises his eyebrows he has forehead wrinkles. They are much less apparent when he's not. None of that is really enough to eliminate him IMO when he has so many positives working in his favor.

BAHAHAHAHAH how?? A crap photo? You were acting like Skip Hall was virtually bald. He clearly wasn't. There are photos of him from the late 70's with a legitimate Afro.

You haven't provided ANY evidence that a lowlife aircraft hijacker in 1971 would have known about the verbiage "Minnesota Nice". None.

again, if you say that something wouldn't have been missed by witnesses, then you need to eliminate Hahneman, who looks less like Cooper than any suspect ever except for Walter Reca.