olemisscub
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We'll have to agree to disagree then.
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Yes, because what's the alternative? The alternative is that somehow in the tens of thousands of pages of internal memos this hugely significant characteristic of Cooper is only mentioned once and it is mentioned 17 years after the fact. We absolutely have more than enough documents to claim that this description contains a mistake.
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Those files were released in 2017. I think Bob is great, but how he has Cooper jumping over or south of the Columbia is a mystery to me. Both Rat and Andy have statements indicating that both the jump and the call to Soderlind happened before the Columbia.
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Did you mean “somebody ON the stairs”? Auto-pilot or not, everyone in the cockpit would have felt the pressure bump caused by the jump.
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Many men used shoe polish in those days
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Wish it were true that they were reading the DZ, but they're just scanning things in order and those letters are in that particular cache that was released in the latest vault.
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Ouch. This pic of Petey is one of the only interesting things in it.
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No idea. All I know is that there have been more than enough pages released to definitively state that "cigarette stains on right hand" is not a hold back. Again, he wasn't "D.B. Cooper" of legend yet. He was just some piece of shit bank robber with a clever modus operandi. They wanted to catch the guy. BADLY. If a physical trait as unique as cigarette stains on his fingers was ever part of his description, then it would have been included from day one.
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The original FOIA case says there are around 71,000 pages.
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Not a fraction. About half. Most of what we have remaining is just going to be suspect files. They've already gone through the actual categorized files.
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Seems like a coincidence. The FBI withholding info would only be externally, with the public. We now have their internal memos. It would absolutely 100% be in there. It's hard to fathom that not being all over the memos and suspect investigations as a way to weed people out.
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My question would be how would Tina have even noticed such a thing? His right hand was in the brief case most of the time. That's a very noticeable trait and if the FBI had that info they would have run with it in 1971 to narrow the search down.
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Why does he have to match the guy in Himmy's book? I really wonder if this is some sort of a typo or brain fart by the case agent who wrote that. That is LITERALLY the only place in the entire FBI files where it says that about Cooper. The same Cooper description shows up well over a thousand times in the Vault files and that's the only time it says that. I'm not particularly suggesting that this agent was influenced by Himmelsbach's descriptions of Cooper, but rather this was some sort of typists brain fart. It says "this description taken from the file". Well....no. That's not taken from any file known to exist.
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In Himmy's book NORJAK, he describes receiving a call from a woman wanting to speak with him about a suspect. It is my belief that three things within her description have somehow been absorbed into the Cooper narrative. Cig stains, terrible language, and "piercing" brown eyes are all things that Himmelsbach brought up about Cooper quite often. Yet all three have no prior provenance in the FBI files prior to the book being published. So I think this woman's description was conflated, perhaps inadvertently, into Himmy's description of Cooper.
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I believe it was actually the voice of a 20 year old or something and was so obviously not Cooper, but they made them listen anyways.
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Wasn’t much info apparently. His narrative of the actual hijacking is really inaccurate. He has Scott coming back and sitting next to Cooper.
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A ton of 302’s about it. The Elsinore suspect was taken very seriously by the Feds.
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Gunther says that Cooper went to an air show that had skydivers in it while in LA. One of the skydivers was the brother of his girlfriend. The guy then let Cooper do a free fall skydive. Cooper then eventually asks a pilot friend about jumping from a jet. The pilot says you could drill a hole through the floor of the plane or something like that. I’m not sure how all that was conflated into being the Elsinore Ghost story.
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Where do we have evidence that Gunther went to the FBI? Is that in a redacted 302 that I glossed over?
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A hoaxer.
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It means I think the book is likely fictional, but I'm not prepared to completely write off. I keep an open mind.
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I’m personally not a believer in Gunther, but I’m not at all opposed to following leads based on the book and wouldn’t discourage anyone from following them. Even if it didn’t reveal Cooper’s identity, DNA testing the stamp could explain who was behind the letters, which I think is a worthwhile endeavor.
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We pulled that out of a box at Himmelsbach's grandson's house. Although finding the original letter to Himmy from "Clara" was the highlight of that trip. Would be neat to have that stamp DNA tested at some point.
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Good stuff. Several of the Cooper copycats were referred to by passengers as using phony tough guy expressions like something from a TV show or a movie. Here's one such instance:
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I’m hearing that Tom’s scope has been fixed and is up and running.
