Nicholas Broughton

Yes, it’s a classic episode. I had the treat of being in the hotel room when they recorded it, the day before Cooper Con 2019. Mark is a real gem, just the kindest warmest guy you will ever meet. He coined the term, The Cooper Vortex. If only one person in the world could know who Cooper was, I’d want it to be Mark without question. Looking forward to meeting you at The DB Cooper Conference this year Haggar!

Agreed.

Yeah. I think we need to consider the source on this one. Biggest coward in the Vortex claiming people are scared and don’t have the game for it lol. I know, I know, you have a project you are working on with others and they asked you not to discuss the case publicly. If I’m blind then you must be hard of hearing because you discuss the case publicly on a daily basis.

I don’t want anything. I just calls ‘em like I sees ‘em. You have made my point, now carry on…

Right and that is EU’s call, it’s his group. FWIW I knew about Fly’s Jacque Voler alias account on the group since day one and never said anything to EU or anyone else about it. Fly has had an open Invite from EU to Cooper Con’s since 2021, and has one with the new regime. Same goes for Ryan’s YouTube channel, and The Cooper Vortex podcast. Maybe you need to get your facts right William.

“I have never left for anything forum related, I have left many times but for personal stuff……”

Oh so now that’s the reason you left hmmm. Might want to get your “story” straight. We all know you left because Ryan posted the Hahneman files. You’re not fooling anyone here, it’s comical at this point.

This forum doesn’t have an audience and you don't have to speak or show your face here. That takes some guts and it’s what I mean by safe confines. Internet forums are a thing of the past, incase you haven’t noticed. Oh and news flash, you can do media without sharing your top secret research information. You have no shortage of research and opinions on the case, which you have shared on this public forum and shutter's site over the years, that the modern day cooperite will never be exposed to because they are dead and buried on those outlets. The majority of the people interested in the case today weren’t around in the “forums” era to soak up your superior NORJAK case knowledge. It's a cop out and nobody is buying it. Given how irked you are regarding the misquoting and trashing of your research and analysis, one would think you’d be jumping at the chance to set the record straight. But instead you duck like a coward and use some lame excuse. If had to hazard a guess as to the real reason, I'd say it’s rooted in an insecurity. Maybe you have a hard time properly pronouncing the names of people, places, and things associated with the case or something.

That’s funny, I think the only one afraid is Flyjack. He’s too scared to step outside the safe confines of the dropzone forum. Runs from media opportunities like it’s the plague, won’t do podcasts, youtube, cooper cons, ect. He’s hid behind this “project” for over a decade. Put me on record, if it ever comes out, I’ll retire from the case/vortex.

Tom talked about this at CC23. Here is a video of the presentation in case anyone missed it.

Tom K “indicated” no such thing! He only cited the rolling on the river bottom theory as a possible explanation for the misalignment of the bundles. Here is what he has to say in regards to degradation (not erosion) of the bills.

TK "It is theorized that fanned out bundles should become mis-aligned while tumbling along the river bottom over time." What is the source of this TK quote?

Confirmation bias is a helluva drug

John Granados and Ted Braden were both with the 101st Aviation Co in 1958-59. According to John he took a few pictures of Braden during that time period, including this one in the boonies of Fort Brag (1958) during Operation White Cloud. I asked John what he’d estimate his height to be and he said maybe 5’8. This would of been based on how John saw him which would of been in army boots. For reference, John was a fairly tall guy standing at 6ft. I say was because John recently passed away last month, a few weeks after our communication. John Granados was a true OG in the sport parachuting world. He started jumping in Elsinore/Perris during the early 1960’s and was a member of the famed Latin skydivers club, which as fate/vortex would have it put him on the feds radar for NORJAK. The FBI looked at this club early on in their investigation. With witnesses describing Cooper as having a darker complexion and his presumed parachuting background, it was an obvious place to look. The bottom line is FIVE FOOT EIGHT in army boots makes Braden a non starter!

Makes perfect sense to me. The money was precounted and prepackaged The serial were prerecorded. The entire purpose of this stash of money was to make everything easy in the event something like this happened. Repackaging the money defeats the entire purpose.,

It’s not like he’s letting me sleep on his couch or something, now that would be an odd choice. You did numerous lives with EU on Facebook and not only let him sleep in your own house multiple times but you gave him a key! You don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to questioning somebodies judgement. I’m still living rent free in your mind like EU was at your condo.

Where did you get the info that the Fazio’s had permits to obtain sand from specific locations on the river? Any documentation for this? This seems unlikely. Even though ocean beaches in Washington state are publicly owned, river banks are privately owned. They would need approval from the local landowners, as well as a permit from the government for each location they wanted to use.

What happened to the portion of the money that went to Royal Globe/Indemnity insurance post money find? It’s been a Vortex sub mystery for years but we may finally have an answer! I just spoke to the son of a Royal Globe/Indemnity employee who inherited this Cooper bill that was gifted to his now deceased father by the company. It appears in true vortex fashion that they gave them away to employees as gifts and there should be more examples out there.

I second that!

We will… keep ya posted G!

Good post. Yes some of us on the particle team including myself currently believe that powdered metallurgy may be our best explanation due to the touch transfer, particle size and opportunity to produce Frankenstein particles like 14 iron heavy ones that have been flagged and very difficult to alloy metal combos due to vastly different melting points as well as other factors like the TiSb. The team recently found that the average area of the metals on the tie fall loosely into the expected size you'd see in powdered metallurgy 25-130 micro millimeters. We currently have stub 675 from the tie knot at Mccrone undergoing a very thorough rescan so we should know more soon!

Yesterday I became one of only 33 non licensed skydivers in the world to have jumped a passenger jet. Blue skies! https://skydive.shredvideo.com/f/77ZJE6xB40

From TK: Stub UPDATE! I am happy to report that stub 675 which is from the tie knot will be delivered to McCrone this week. 675 should have lots of particles that came from his finger tips and holds the most unusual particles like the titanium antimony. I decided that we should go full bore on the best possible stub and told McCrone we want longer dwell times on each particle and go to the max on the number of particles to analyze. McCrone has assured us that the techniques they are using today are far more advanced than what we used back in 2017. We are expecting to get better analysis of particles we know to be on the stub as well as many never before seen particles. McCone said they have a "window" right now and should be able to get it scanned sooner than later. Myself and the rest of the particle team are anxiously awaiting the results and we will keep you posted as new things emerge. Unfortunately we will not be able to confirm the new particles until I get back to my lab beginning of October so lets keep our heads until final confirmation happens. New data! Exciting times! Tom Kaye