TheAnvil

I make no such admission - nor should I, being as it would be utterly untrue. Those idiots I mentioned will need to make fools of themselves to garner attention enough to make the endeavor worthwhile for ACRI - you really should join, John; great organization. As I stated - shouldn't take TOO long, given the intellect and proclivities of those two. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Which is far more intelligent than Biden could ever hope to be. I pray he's underestimated her as you have. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Jen posting in SC. It truly must be a crisis of sorts.

The microbrewery in Carpinteria, just south of you, is quite good.

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Perhaps the American Civil Rights Institute could do such a thing with $harpton or Jack$on the next time they make fools of themselves publicly (shouldn't be long). Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

And I agree with her on a lot of things. Just not this. Read the article this morning.

Bullshit. SOX was and is an overkill response to the Enron fiasco. It has increased operating costs for companies, who in turn have passed those costs on to the consumer. Cost of accounting is absurd under it, and it is REALLY a pain for the smaller companies. SOX didn't cause this fiasco - nor did it prevent it. When discussing ways to improve the economy, modification of SOX should certainly be part of that discussion. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

It's ironic as hell...and I don't like it at all. Should be unnecessary. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Banks encouraged by the government via CRA's 1995 revisions. And all those morons are to blame as well. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

He created this mess? How so, exactly? He lobbied the Congress in '95 to strengthen the CRA to facilitate government pressure on the banking industry to make stupid loans? I don't think so. Then again, I haven't checked. Get on that and get back to me. He forced idiots to enter into inadvisable contracts? How so, exactly? then again, I haven't researched that - I assume that one person as head of one bank did not engineer a massive wave of idiots going to both himself and his competitors to obtain loans they had no hope of repaying. I could be wrong...but I don't think so. I would think ANYONE would go to their money guy - or possibly DoCommerce - to take the executive branch's lead on this. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

No, I don't. Nor do I care. The $$ has been expended. If you were interested in solving the debt problem, neither would you. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

You have no desire to address the debt because you have no desire to place every single entitlement program on the table for modification/cancellation. You instead wish to increase them - health care for instance. When you cease calling for increased entitlement programs, come see us. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Discretionary spending - Republican. Entitlement spending - Democrat. Which is greater? The latter. Deal with it. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

And who confirmed him, exactly, Jeanne? Ahhh...I see. I don't think it odd at all to go to the Treasury department for a financial matter. Perhaps some do. "I would not go to my money department to lead the solution to a monetary crisis because..." would be the sentence I'd like them to complete. I'd live with disappointment, no doubt. I disagree with the bailout 100%, BTW. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I do NOT like this fucking bailout. As a matter of fact, I am 100% against it in its current state for myriad reasons. I do NOT like government intervention in markets at all. Placing such a large amount of $$ in one branch's hands to expend as it sees fit on bad debts of creditors seems to violate the Appropriations clause of the Constitution on the part of the Congress. I mean that's a LARGE chunk of the budget. That would give the Treasury Department a GREAT portion of control of the loan market. The amount is obscene - how was it determined? I could go on. Incremental steps could be taken prior to appropriating that obscene amount to the Executive branch with such a broad mandate. Or ANY amount, in fact. We'd be REMISS if we didn't take steps prior to injecting taxpayer $$ into the market. Fools, in fact. I'd like to see the following: - Market-mark accounting rule should be modified. - Re-examine the well meaning but punitive Sarbanes-Oxley act. Especially the section - 404 is it - for small businesses. THe SEC has mitigated this a bit, but cost of accounting is exorbitant and not good for the economy. - CRA provisions of 1995 should be repealed. Like it or not, they helped cause this fucking mess. Deal with it. The above two things could be done with some ease and would have an immediate effect on the market. After the above, we could look at a much SMALLER injection of capital into the market if necessary, though in principle I am TOTALLY against it, and do it in a sane time-frame with adequate debate and examination. If, after adequate examination, an injection of capital into the market to cover bad debt would STILL be necessary AFTER mark-market accounting rule modification, the amount of oversight I would require would be obscene. Further, any capital going into the market would NOT be a grant, but a loan. I want that money BACK in the Treasury - with interest and one heck of a fee to be collected over the long term - say 20-50 years, the latter being a bit long but about the most I'd be willing to wait (with an increased interest rate) to recoup those taxpayer funds. I'd want the $$ to go out in increments, each one to be reviewed and approved by 2/3 majority of both houses of Congress. Say - $10 billion increments max. One increment every two months maximum. Any current exec of any bank receiving taxpayer $$ under this program would have his/her severance bonus approved by congress. I hate this. It makes my fucking blood boil. I don't think the government should have ANY business setting the salary or bonus of anyone not in government service. But in this case, I think it's fair. And it makes my blood fucking boil. Saying zero isn't fair to those who have done a good and honest job - and they are there. This dis-fucking-gusting government intervention should end as expenditure of funds to the banks themselves end. No compromise. Yes, I know some people want the gov't to cap executive compensation for all companies - and they're all fucking idiots and mental midgets of the lowest order. This would be for companies receiving market injection funds only. My initial thoughts on a way out of this mess. If we're going to descend into the fringes of socialism at all, even for a short period, to save our capitalist system - and I DON'T FUCKING WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AT ALL - then we should require an extrication plan written in stone. If we take the right steps, I don't think the injection would be necessary - and definitely not at the levels currently being requested. Do you realize the amount of work and documentation it would take a department to justify a request of such magnitude during the normal budget cycle? FUCK. Some random Anvil thoughts. Anyone have any along the same lines? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Not in the least...but you obviously have. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

I hate to break this to you, but I have absolutely no idea if EJC or any of his advisors ever took money from Fannie or Freddie.

Iit looks like 'purported' was key in my wording... Clicky Sometimes, being sexy is just hard work. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Are you admitting El Jefe Clintonista was in bed with the Chinese, in your opinion? After all, his convicted felon advisor, Sandy Berger WAS a lobbyist who accepted thousands of $$ from the Chinese government prior to working for EJC. Just like McCain's advisor is purported to have done with Freddie Mac. Nice to see you're finally coming around on EJC's extra special relationship with the Chinese government. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Dammit, Marc! You're not paying attention to the liberal rule book! The 'call all racists republicans' rule is right in between the 'Ahh...so Clinton did it first' required response when called on hypocrisy rule - a relished haughty moment for them - and the 'run like cowards when forced to face racism within liberal ranks' rule. Dammit, man, how can you hope to speak or chat with liberal people if you don't read their rules? Back to Ann Coulter 101 for you! And don't forget the WSJ is worthless while the Slimes...er...NY Times is the paper of record and anything it says or infers goes! Sheesh...get a CLUE man! Don't you know liberals won't accept anything else? Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

And Lucky just reinforced it! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

Not really - though when I do it, I'm dead on.

How did you deduce that? I think they're despicable. They'd fit right in with the Reverend of Tawana Brawley fame, eh? He did run for President on the Democratic ticket, didn't he? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

He never had my vote and that sure as hell didn't get him any headway in getting it either! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!!