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If you can find a good deal on an LTI unit like the trupulse 360, I think it will do what you want. I'm pretty sure they have supplied the military in the past, maybe still do. You may know this, but the advertized range is usually to a reflective target and the useful range is probably less than half of that.

Medicare doesn't have to pay for quite a bit of it's administrative cost. It also covers old people, and that greatly skews any comparison with the private industry.

69gr is kind of high, many use 55gr or 65gr. I fully believe that the .223rd will penetrate sheetrock and I'm a LEO. I also believe that the public should be able to purchase and use anything I have available to me. I also believe that the high level specialized training I have should be available as well. As of right now all the weapons (lethal and less-than-lethal) are available for purchase and anyone can pay to go through the same style training I've had from firearms, to defensive tactics to driving. That is how it should be. 69 grains is high but it's the green tip shit we all have. Mk262 is better for me but still shows the the same characteristics. 55grn as well. A lot of SWAT teams are ditching the MP5's for this reason.

Yes I do believe it. Most US LEO's do to. As your report states the 69grn bullet fragments as soon as it hits anything. The testing we did was all with Mk18's (10.3" barrels 7:1 twist I think). The MP5 did far more damage after going through the sheet rock. I was not expecting that and wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it.

No I understood. Keep worrying. I still like my MP5 cuz I'm a prick and I don't care (or miss). Your wonderful gubment also gave me a Mk18. I guess only pricks get guns now. Fuck everyone else. They should have different jobs I guess if they want to have the right to defend themselves. Stoopid sheep.

You are a nugget. What part of safely shooting in buildings would not apply to you or me? I don't see how who you are working for would matter. Why should a father trying to protect his children be less concerned with safety than a prick like me?

Nugget that wasn't from the report. Just a fact pertinent to the title of the thread. If LEO's think using AR's are safer for entry teams then why wouldn't it apply to other citizens?

An AR/M16 is the perfect home defense weapon. The 5.56 doesn't penetrate though sheet rock like the 9mm does (hard to believe but true). Lots of agencies are going to the AR/M16 for just this reason. It's simply safer than having people shooting glocks or MP5's inside apartment buildings. That and most are going to hit more often with an AR than a pistol.

Wow, another death threat. I find it highly ironic that so many gun owners want to kill me, simply over a little thing like a political disagreement. In my mind, that should disqualify you from gun ownership, as you obviously don't understand the grave responsibility and restraint that comes with the power of deadly force. And the moderators must be right wing gun nuts themselves for letting you get away with that kind of talk. Sheesh! I did not threaten you, I would never do that. I was just stating a fact. Sheesh!

I had no idea we were that short on guns. I'm going to have to build some more I guess. Having one gun would be like having one piece of cutlery. If you are going to have one you should just go ahead and get at least: .22 rifle .22 pistol shotgun CCW pistol (9mm or larger) and some sort of high power rifle. .308 is a good start depending on where you live. Then if you are not an asshole, you will get suppressors for all of them. These are now considered firearms, so that's at least 4 more. Now we are at 9. I guess we need 8 more times 300 million or so... I'm going to fill up my gas tank tomorrow because I'm afraid of running out of gas. I'll do that on my way to work because I'm afraid of being unemployed. Then I'm going out to shoot some deer because I'm afraid of not eating. Sucks to live in fear but I think I'll keep grinding it though. People like you make me feel better about myself...well that and killing people like you. I get paid to do that

Obesity is a symptom of a poor healthcare system. All else equal, a country with more obesity than another has an inferior healthcare system. That is ridiculous. Obesity has nothing at all to do with the health care system....and it shouldn't in any free country. The countries with little to no obesity typically have the worst health care systems, or none at all. Our health care system didn't buy the video games or KFC for my fat ass neighbor's kid. We are fat because we don't have to work very hard. On average, we don't work that hard to make a living, buy our super-sized value meals, or even to entertain ourselves.

"Ya'll do understand that I came here a sinner and leaving a saint. Take me home, Jesus, take me home, Lord." Something tells me this guy had quite a disappointment about 6:28pm last night. I miss Texas.

Well for one the US is no longer proud of "Christian Values". That stuff is now considered "spreading hate". Anyway, the original text of the Bible doesn't translate to "kill". It's closer to murder. Killing is cool as long as you have a good reason....like killing killers who kill without a good reason.

There is something wrong with this guy. Gun goes inside the belt. Putting all of that shit in a bag and carrying it into a movie is asking for trouble. Maybe that's what he was after. I don't see why body armor is an issue. It's a purely defensive item. I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be appropriate for going to the movies now

I'm in disagreement with you here. No where in that report is it documented that fatbodies are adjusted for. It does document in painful detail how the data was manipulated and weighted to make WHOs opinion of ideal the benchmark. From page 40 -Weighing the achievements that go into overall attainment:"...WHO conducted a survey of 1006 respondents from 125 countries, half from among its own staff...." It gets even more goofy when they explain annex table 10. You have to go find another report if you want to know how they calculate "maximum level of DALE achievable for observed expenditure per capita". Maybe that's where they hid the fatbody calculation. Even if you are right about the fatbodies, this is by WHO's own admission, only a measure of how closely each system fits their ideal. Even WHO doesn't advertized this ranking as "quality of health care", so I still maintain that doing so would be misleading.