I've had these freefly pants for about 2 years now, and I think they're great. Used to jump a Michigan freefly suit, but now I really prefer these freefly pants with a long sleeve T-shirt on top. I have good control with this combination, both head-down and sit or stand flying, with a good range of fall rates. My only quibble (and this is really minor) is that the plastic keeper on the drawstring doesn't hold tight enough, and the waistband loosens enough to let my T-shirt flap when sit-flying. I fix that simply by tying a knot in the drawstring. Again, this is a really minor point, these pants are really great. They're also holding up pretty well, after 2 years of use they look good as new.