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Yes you do. If not for the safety of our beloved tandem passenger, we also have your physical well-being at heart!

That's why it is much better to recommend the PC1000. Then, if and when he screws up while "ignoring the running camera" at least we'll have a better chance of quality footage on skydiving movies dot com. "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

Or an experienced poster, if I may add... What never ceases to amaze me that a lot of responders are absolutely positively sure that any infringement of the rules about who pays what and gets 'non commercially' compensated for what is a capital crime and may put an end to our beloved sport. That, and that asking about it overhere implies that one is in way over their head - opening the door of a C172 in flight, phew - What Are You Thinking Stupid Boy? *) Cloud punching on the other hand seems to be a whole different matter... *) Remembering vividly that @ my place but not under my supervision one time one very experienced jumper in the Netherlands who was on all sorts of technical boards and instructor examiner and all during a unnotified 'jump in' jumped out of a normal C172 that didn't have the door removed and that had his girlfriend(!) without a parachute in the backseat. Of course he saw absolutely no problem with that... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

I usually get scared below 3000ft since between 3000 and 2000 one might end up "between canopies". That seems like a bad plan. So there you go - 3000ft. "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

DGIT? Bounce Bingo!

Luck has got nothin' to do with it, kiddo... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

It looks as if you are grabbing your left 'camera-side' toggle rather different than 'what the rest of the world does' - i.e. when I grab my toggle like I'm used to, the last 10 seconds prior to landing show "an interesting view of the TI's reserve container + the dropzone tilted @ 90 degrees..." This is a result of the way the camera is positioned on the back of my hand ("upright" - if that makes any sense...) and I can't figure out how to work around that. In your video I just watched on youtube that is obviously not the case. (view of the reserve container + tilted dropzone...) You have worked around it and yours is by far the better video, compared to f.i. the landing footage I shot only last weekend...(I'm not uploading it somewhere - just take my word for it

Well... I have not tested it as suchs (i.e. unscrew the lens) for that would definitly ruin the video of the next tandempassenger, so indeed it may have been something else. Have been? I was playing around with the setup on the ground a bit more yesterday after I posted this question here and am not able to reproduce the same effect I had in the first picture (overexposed). In fact, it seems to be working fine now in auto... In fact, while typing this message I went out and experimented a bit more, with and without the lens. Though I havent solved it by dropping the camera, it was not the lens - it seems....

Is it possible that a wide angle lense is disturbing for the automatic exposure? I screwed a xdream-optics 0.3x onto a Sony DRCR-PC106 and now all-of-a-sudden it seems that the auto-exposure does not work like it should. (see att. uvs etc. 001) I can work around it by exposing manually (see uvs. 006) but then the image is 'underexposed' inside the plane. (see 005) Don't need to tell you lot that adjusting right before exit is..uhm...unpractical? ) Thoughts? "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

If the "larger, busier" DZ can't produce the common decency to cease operations for the rest of the day it has grown to big for my taste... Then again, not a single WFFC would have finished if 'my policy' were in place. Please keep in mind that I'm speaking 'from an emotion' here. Having a hard time imagining that you would continue jumping with the people from the sheriffs department and coroners office still at the airport. Having an even harder time imagining scene's as portraied by Stratostar earlier in the thread. Since I run a tiny operation and not a multi plane 365 days a year one it is hard for me to say what I would and would not do @ Spaceland, Perris or Arizona. As always - YMMV "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

Well, I can see that that would change the perspective on life and death matters somewhat, but I thought we were discussing 'another day at the dropzone' here, i.e. we ARE 'in the skydiving world' and not in an Iraqi war zone (for the sake of THIS argument, that is...). If it was such a frequent occurance that shutting down operation for the rest of the day in case of a fatality would lead to a permanent shut down - I would go look for another DZ.... Anyway, maybe it is time to quote Michael Herr (from "Dispatches"): "The corpse I absolutely couldn't bear to look at I most certainly will never get to see..." "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

I cannot believe that this discussion is actually going on and that I have been hearing arguments like "the deceased would have wanted us to carry on" or "honoring him by making another jump" (probably as his relatives are arriving @ the DZ and being counselled by the local priest?) Even the "back in the saddle ASAP" argument is a lame one IMO, I mean come on: what part of "DEAD" did you not understand when you were signing your waivers? The only exception I'm willing to accept would be a big competition or a bigway attempt - with all the participants fully understanding beforehand what all the others would do, should they be so unfortunate to 'buy the farm' today. In all other cases I would think that jumping should stop for the remainder of the day in case of a fatality. Of course, since it can be argued that one could just as well close the DZ for a week or even a month there is no real 'rationale' to do this - except that the rest of the world (who thinks we are lunatics anyway) might stop to tolerate our behaviour. That - in itself - ought to be sufficient argument in case lack of common decency might carry us where we should not go. If you cannot wait 24 hours to be 'back in the saddle' and might 'chicken out' if you had to - than 'chicken out' by all means please... Just my 0,02$... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

I didn't either. But had it installed in firefox in about 10 seconds after reading about it here and googling it... Amazing gadget...*) Anyway - the dark pic was taken with a shutter speed of 1/1000 while the lighter one was taken with 1/200, not to mention difference in focal lenght (18mm / 24 mm) so, before recalibrating the monitor, sacrificing virgins and what have you not - well, what others already said.... *) A gadget the official greeny of a photography forum cannot do without IMO

It actually has a NAME...

Somebody I Do Not Know (honest to God) dropped a CD in my letterbox @ my home (there ARE people into this Valentine thing I guess...). On occasion I mentioned to be a Byrds fan (a "what fan?" the young ones say nowadays...) but I havent got a clue who did this*). It had "Mr Tambourine Man/ Byrds" written on it with a CD-pencil. Since these are modern times, I scanned the CD for virusses (without actually knowing what Norton security is realy doing there) and it came out "clean". Put it in my computer and listened. Yes -an audio CD of the Byrds, according to the Media Player . For some reason I decided to 'scan' the Bonfire for 'Byrds' and this was the only post that turned up. As luck would have it - 5D was on the CD... If Tonto were still online, we would all have known that the year of the Rat has started a couple of days ago... (or, let me rephrase that - when you found out / if you did / that the year of the Rat had started, were you reminded of Tonto? And let me rephrase that again - would you have been?) BSBD *) With me living in the Netherlands, skydivers living in Florida are above suspicion, of course... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

For Gods Sake WOMAN - it was a mere observation! GRRRRR... * withholds remark about PMS *

Since you seem to be the second one who misunderstands what I was trying to say... 1. About the Bonfire? I couldn't care less. I consider it to be DZ.coms asylum. I pity the wardens and the head of department ... Just as long as the loonies are kept out of the 'topical' parts of the forums it is fine with me for I only come here when I have absolutely nothing better to do... 2. It was offered as a mere observation that people who 'used to jump' saw it fit on another social website to start a special interest group on this 'used to jump' aspect of their lives. 3. Since I'm able to share a drink and polite conversation with people that never even saw a parachute (and in fact myself never bring up what I do for a living when I meet someone for the first time), on the rare occasions when I read the bonfire and even rarer occasions that I post there, I'm no elitist either. 4. Having said that it beats me why IRL someone would hang out at a DZ if not to jump out of airplanes. Most of the time you find yourself in a worn out hangar somewhere at the end of the civilised world. Often the surroundings remind one of a refugee camp. No bathrooms to speak of. Noisy airplanes. Beats me why one would spend free time there if not to jump or pack or do jump related things. Doesnt mean I want to drive those that seem to be having the time of their life there off with a stick.... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

Then again (pleased to meet you Jewels) one cannot help to wonder what it is that a Student with 4 jumps has to contribute to a SKYDIVING site that forces her to make more than three times as many contributions in one year than a DZO / instructor / tandemmaster in 6 years? You type faster than me? All words of profound wisdom, I guess?

There - you were quick to spot that one! "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

Funny that you mentioned this. In the Netherlands there is one of those "social network sites" called "Hyves" (think 'Myspace') and it is very popular with virtually 'everybody' having his personal space on the web there and lots and lots of possibilities to meet old friends and find groups with a common interest. (Best of all - everybody "speaks"/ types Dutch which is what I would want you all to do to make this place here more convenient for me ...

And if you do, don't forget to do the math on the presures involved when you take your vacuumchamber with a complete rig or your ex in it 'all the way to 12 grand'...

Move over - I wanna watch 2! OTOH I 'm not THAT keen on the sound and sight of someone femuring in sideways. The last guy I saw screamed like a wounded pig all the while untill the ambulance arrived. I'll sit this one out in the comfort of my office, thank you... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

That quote somehow got me thinking about a period @ my old club where things like that seemed to play a role. As all of you probably know, you need to be a bit relaxed about this whole 'jumping out of airplanes' stuff and some of the required relaxation comes from routine. When you are a young jumper who has first discovered the rewards of skydiving, people who are on the staff doing back-to-back as camerapersons, instructors etcetera sometimes seem like the coolest people on the planet. I mean landing, dumping your gear in the hangar, grabbing another rig and off to the plane again - who wouldn't want to spend his weekend like that? Meanwhile - at any place where people jump out of airplanes, be it a club or a business, there's also a lot of less glamerous work to be done and in case of a club they are always on the lookout for someone willing to do that work for free. (Well, in fact the DZO is too - hush, hush about that please ) Beggars can't be choosers, so if someone is willing to hang around at the DZ, serve coffee and soft drinks, jump in a car to go look for cutaway canopies and people that landed out and a dozen of other things that need to be done - he or she doesn't have to be a hard core skydiver. In fact, hard core skydivers tend to be not verry good at these 'less glamerous jobs' - the boys and girls that are either on the creepers with their coach, packing their canopies or in the air hardly ever serve coffee or a softdrink. People want to be recognized for what they contribute to a community - any community. so invariably there is a potential for tension between these two groups at the DZ. The 250 jumps a year folks tend to 'tolerate' the 'I'm not actually jumping myself at the moment' persons since they serve coffee and softdrinks and keep track of cutaway canopies - in fact with some thorough training they can become dedicated tandemcatchers who will wait faithfully for the tandempair even on no wind days ... However - they should NEVER actually RUN the DZ. People telling other people that they cannot be their friends because they don't jump enough is about the silliest thing I have heard in a long time (and trust me, I have heard a lot of silly stuff... ) The Bonfire and its tendency to spin out of control like the rest of the internet where one can type anonimously is hardly visited by me. Don't hold me to it but this may be my third post here - I'm pretty sure it is less than 10. And I'm not shy about "speaking in public"

The oldest trick in the book probably would be getting THEM to steer the canopy as much as possible. Motion sickness from "being moved" is generally a whole lot worse than from "moving'. YMMV. "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words...

Yes! I DO understand Russian! Strange though, normally this only happens after consuming enough alcohol...