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Acutely I said I believe and it was because I read it in an article. I got the link below and there was a link to full story so as I was scanning it I clicked on fule story" which took me to the article from 2004. Simple I made a mistake. I have no issue admitting when I make a simple mistake or when I am flat out wrong. At least I can admit it and therefore I learn. Wish I could say the same about others. Here are the links. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/23/iran.uk/index.html Let me guess next step will be to criticize my spelling. You guys are just so smart and never wrong I wonder how it would feel to never be wrong even when you are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

These same questions could be asked of you. How are you so sure that they WERE in Iran’s waters? How are you so sure that they the sailors WERE spies? Do you have inside information or just following your gut? I never said they were. All i said was what if they were. I am not rulling out the If just because the UK said so. read my posts youll see. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

i was not mad at all. I love honesty more then anything. You feel the way you do and your mind is made up. Like I just said in the post to Dorbi this is not rocket science. To me this is simple. Iran is not pushing for war we and are allies who are nervous about Iran’s power in the region are pushing for a chance to set Iran back a few hundred years. That is ethically wrong even if it might be right for the US. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

How are you so sure that they were not in Iran’s waters? How are you so sure that they the sailors were not spies? Do you have inside information or just following your gut? If you don’t like Iran and think they are this “axis of evil” as GWB has presented then your mind is already made up no matter what the facts. If you can not understand why it is hypocritical to say Iran is pushing for war, when we are out side of there borders with guns pointing at them, when it is so obvios that the US has superior military capability I really don’t know what to say to you. This is not one of those arguments where I can see someone’s side and not agree but get where they are coming from. The claim that Iran would push for war or is pushing for war is ridicules. Oh yea I forgot there Muslims and we all want to blow are selves up and kill the infidels. Allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaahoooooooooo Akabar. Now where is that red button. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Well at least your post proves that you are not a rational person to argue with on the subject of Iran. As you have stated your mind is already made up on unrelated topics therefore Iran is bad no matter what the facts. That is basically what you are saying, and I appreciate the honesty at least this will save me time and energy. Thank you and have a great day

Wow now i understand. It all makes sense now. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

We have done the same thing just in the past few years in the Iraq war. So either hold the same standard for all countries or don’t hold any at all. If the Sailors weren’t shown every one would assume the Evil Iranians were torturing them, so when we do see them and they seem ok you mention the Geneva Convention that we don’t listin to our selves. Is there a better definition of hypocrisy? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

There is opinion and there is absolute lack of historical knowledge. The UK is anything but a peaceful nation. How many countries has the UK invaded and basically treated the countries own citizens like slaves in the not so distent past? That’s the main problem most don’t know the history and think that the news they receive from these countries is all true. Or they don’t realize how deep the issues are. It is not just about today, or even this decade. The oppressed tend to remember there oppressors, but the oppressors want to forget what they did after they have received the benefits they wished to get. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think everyone is losing me on this. We are talking about British sailors who are in the Persian Gulf. Right on the out side of the shorelines of Iran. If they were in Iranian waters Iran has every right to detain them and questions them. We would have done the same. I am sick of hearing my self say it but it is a big point that needs to be said until people get it. WE ARE IN THERE Territory right now, they are no where near us. We are threatening them with aggressions and violence. Honestly what would we do if we found Iranian sailors in our territory waters? Even better what would we do if there were Iranian solders 100 yard from entering our territory waters how about one mile what would we do? How can people think that we are allowed to invade a country, defy the UN, torture prisoners, hold people captive, topple governments, shoot down civilian air planes, support terrorist when it is convenient, and on and on and on but Iran is way out of place for capturing British sailors that they claim were inside their waters? And even if they are not in there waters they are close less then a mile. That is what I don’t get. How some can simply turn a blind eyeto all the shady shit we do and at the same time be pissed at Iran for what would be viewed as standard percidure I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yeah, well had the Brits flown Iranian airliners into a few skyscrapers in Tehran, my bet is they would be dealing with much worse than hoods and shocks. And to those who would profess to know what these sailors are enduring - YOU KNOW NOTHING - SO SHUT THE FUCK UP. This is what I mean about ignorance. What the fuck does Iran have to do with 9-11? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Obviously some are. To being stupid please add selfish, and incapable of viewing anything with common sense. Like the fact that if we traveled thousands of miles with are guns to sit on Iran’s border as we have done befor they are not the ones pushing for war maybe we are? But whats the point. Unfortunately a big part of ignorance is not being able to admit you were wrong or to allow another point of view to intrude in to there dim little minds. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You just chose to belive what you want. I remember when I used to say the Iraq war is for money and there is no WMD. People who are blind didn't get it and it was the same type of people. You so sure of what your told, and so blinded that you can not see the most obvios. We travled how miles so Iran could push for a war thatbthey will lose? I mean come on who is stupid enogh to belive that shit? I guess the same people who were 100 percent sure Iraq had WMD and a link to 911. Some never learn. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

we can lie as much as we want. When we lie and kill54k people it is a mistake. When we sit in the persiangulf iran wants to start a fight we want peace that's why we have the gun to there head. We are always right just trying to do the right thing and bring peace and happiness to all. Were like santa with a cruze misslle. We have so many smart people just look at the smart guy they voted for and you'll know the whole story..... I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Gears of War. got it the day it came out and can't stop playing it on line. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Sorry dude I jumped and attacked you assuming you meant they must have been tortured. This place always brings the best out of me. It’s Friday and I got one more hour before I go home and chill. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really do you have an all seeing eye or do you use your psychic ability to see these things. You know your post basically describes your whole sides logic or lack of logic. Your logic is simply not based on logic it is based on feelings, and assumtions. You watched way too much 24 now you think you know “these people”. What was this kind of thinking called oh yea the truthiness (not the truth but what feels right to you). I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Just letting you know that I will be steeling this sentence from you. "Situational ethics". It describes a lot of our friends on here very well. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think the Idiots are the ones who live in their little fantasyland. The ones who play with words. Kidnapping? If they were in Iranian waters it is not a kidnapping, They are members of a foreign nations military invading in to Iranian territory. They have every right to question them, and if they want to lower there standards to our level they can even torture them fuck we have. As for parading people on TV. Remember the pictures of Sadam in his underwear. I can surely remember a bunch of other times where we have shown people on our TVs even the dead. Most idiot closed minded DIM rednecks just happily cheered their victory maybe even had a shot of their favorite drink to celebrate the death and bloodshed. Either you are blind (which I bet to be the case) or only reading between the selected lines. We detain people indefinitely, we have tortured and murdered people. How about you take a good look at the shit we have done before you pass judgement on something that is not even clear yet. We were not invited to Iraq, Every pole says the people wants us out. The reason behind was proven to be false. The murder of the 54000+ people was unnecessary, and Iraq was not a haven for terrorism until we decided to force our views and guns on them. Enough is enough. These are not things you can argue their fact. Again another reminder for the geographically challenged. Iran is no where near us but we have traveled thousands of miles to sit out side their door with guns, missiles, and ect. I mean how blinded would you have to be to think Iran is trying to start a war. I believe history speaks for it self no one has been in as many wars as us. We have a lot of stupid people who are warmongers and unfortunately one of them has become the president of the US, and he has a lot of sheep that blindly follow. Wake up and buy your self a mirror. If you have a standard hold it for everyone If you don’t then simply you’re a hypocrite. Many on here are. I remember a dvd I watched about the war and war coverage. They showed a US troop explaining how he was so pissed when Aljazeer showed dead US soldiers on TV. Then he mentioned how we were showing dead people on TV all the time and he never had the same reaction. That experienced helped him realize how bias and blinded his views have become. It all great to wave flags and tie yellow ribbons around your house, but please when it comes to looking at a situation objectively those views and emotions need to be set aside. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Wow you are a very sexy, and attractive lady. I like the 2nd one more. You have a devilish look in your eye and the red brings it out. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No we don’t take hostages we put people away indefinitely, anyone the president and 3 of his buddies say so. Oh yea we torture people too. I love how so many still think they are on the high road. I need to buy a huge mirror for everybody. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

There is defiantly something wrong with that. I don’t know I wouldn’t be comfortable if my comfort was the cause of death, and atrocities to another part of the world. I don’t only value my self and the people who look like me but the humane race. I understand we can’t save every one, but I am not talking about saving I am talking about cause and effect. Our policies have caused many country to live under dictators> under those regime people have been murdered, raped, and a whole bunch of other shit. I think it would be wrong to have no issue with causing other that much pain. Then again I obviously don’t agree with a lot of you on here. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Here what they say. The reason Iran had the revolution to begin with was people viewed the Shah of Iran as a puppet government that was directly under the influence of the US. So when the revolution occurred they believed that the US government was anti their revolution and was hosting spies in the US Embassy in Tehran. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Touche I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain