Darius11

I remember when the movie Passion of the Christ was coming out. There were people calling Mel Gibson Anti-Semitic for stating what he and many believe to be historical fact. I guess if you ever mention Jews in a negative light you’re considered an anti-Semitic bastard who must be a Nazi. People need to get over them selves and not deny there past. Is it stupid to blame Jews for the death of Christ today? Yes Is it stupid to try to change history? Yes We should just look at just like any thing else that happened thousands of years ago. Every race every country has done something horrible in there past. I have to agree with Flaxori that history is written by the people in control. That would explain why the Palestinian side is often not mentioned, and they are made out to be all crazy. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thank you now that i know i will do that. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No i don't remeber it being mentioned. I agree no matter what they say i am not going back to them not worth dieing. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

SDI Scuba Diving International. Yea i will if they give me a hard time I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

About 8 months ago I got me and my GF gift certificates to open water certification course. We started it on Saturday or thought so. Long story short these guys are so unorganized and the instruction is so unstructured both my Gf and me want to stop. I feel like I am taking the Fandango version of the scuba course. Please tell me if I am being a bitch. Sat we showed up and they talked to us not much about scuba but more about social shit what they do and stuff like that. Sunday we show up they have no pool so we go in to the bay after searching for a place to go for the swim test. We do the swim test and then go to another lake which one of the students suggested to do skin diving techniques. We get those done and meat with them yesterday. We get a 10 Min. Briefing on all the equipment we get shown everything once and then told to gear up and go. We get in the water I have some scuba Exp. So I was ok but my GF had a horrible first time experience and she not a girl who gets afraid easy, She has jumped hang-glided you name it. I have never seen a place that was so unorganized. From taking 30 min. to find gear to not knowing where we are going to go in. My questions is this normal? What was your experience? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think that’s a great idea. Depending on your neighbors, If there cool and not noisy it is so worth it to have your own place with no one else in it. Just don’t take shit you don’t use, and set it up the way you want it. I have a feeling you will love it. Buy a flat panel TV it will cost more but will take no space. There is a lot of stuff you can do to save space and make it look nice and open so you don’t feel crowded by your stuff. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

True if you are dealing with a rational person. When you dealing with someone who doesn’t have the same basic principles as you then unfortunately many times they don’t get it or get you and you don’t get them. I have had more then my share of arguments on here and the biggest problem has been people who say they value all humane life the same but it is obvious they do not. Or people who can’t understand a culture and just because it is not what they are used to they think it is wrong. So yes they do not get it and no matter how much you explain they will never get it. People who view things that are different as wrong will never get anything and it is a waist of energy to try to make them understand. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

At least one thing is consistent you make the past out to be as you wished it to be but not as it was. If you think me not posting back and forth for a billion times means defeat or me being proven wrong you go head and tell your self that. Once again you use your stock defense of stating a fact that has nothing to do with what I was saying. What I was pointing out was the military power of Israel vs. Palestine. Off course you knew that but felt like bringing up a point that has nothing to do with what was mentioned. If you notice i didn't post that much to this thread or as much as i usuly do. Simple answere is i don;t have the energy anymore. What I have realized is no matter what you do most people have there views and no matter what the facts are there views will not change. If you need to feel good about your self make sure you put this post up as “I was proven wrong” after all I wouldn’t want you to wake up from your happy dream. Fact: There was no Israel 58 years ago Fact: The land that the Israeli citizens live on today was occupied by the Palestinians people (Muslim, and Christians) Fact: Israel has no issue torturing it’s captives and has violated human rights laws. Sorry dude you can say what you want but the Isralie government is a cruel government that cares for no ones rights but it’s own. At best Israeil deserve the same respect that we give any other terrorist organization. Just because Israel uses canon fire from a ship or a bomb from a plane doesn’t make the people they kill any less dead. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really if your friend said it then it must be true. There are diaries after dries on line that show how the Palestinians are treated by the Israelis. Just do a search on Google. There not written by Arabs but by your fellow Christian Americans. Maybe you will believe them? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Don't worry they will. It's like putting five 4 year olds up to fight Mike Tyson. We are the strongest military on this planet and Israel basically has the same shit we do. I really don’t see how there could be any pleasure from seeing Israel “kick ass” as it is not a surprise. Most of the times the Palestinian throw rock and get slaughtered by the Israeli solders. To that add a raciest government and belief system that you and only your kind are the chosen people and you have a very strong indiscriminate killing machine. Will Israel ever have peace? I don’t think so. We have realized no matter how much brut force you have you can not change what people want. Israeli can build a wall around them self and they will dig tunnels to get to them, and I can not blame them. If you stole my house and killed my family I would want you dead no matter what the cost. Israel doesn’t deserve peace because they are the reason there is no peace for the Palestinian. You don’t get peace by killing peoples children and destroying their homes. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think there is a huge point that you might be missing. We supported Israel. Israel has a history of preemptive attacks, of torturing people they have captured, and not to forget general cruelty to anyone who is not one of there own. I don’t think it is that hard to comprehend why we are hated by the Middle East. Israel especially in the beginning used our help our weapons to commit these crimes, and we had no issue with it. In fact most people have never even heard or seen footage of what the Israeli military has done. I would bet that if the average American heard both sides of the story they would not agree to wsend the millions of dollars we send to Israel every year. I would also bet that if a country decided to supply a another country with weapons far more advance then us and watched us get slaughtered with out any issue we would have the same hate towards them that the Palestinians have towards our goverment. Not really hard to understand I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

That seems to be the stock answer to any one whom criticizes Israel or any group that happens to be of the Jewish fait. No matter how valid the criticism is your considered anti-Semitic. I don’t know but that’s getting to be old. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

That takes some energy and more importantly you have to care enough to do the research. Unfortunately most take the easy way out they trust their shepherd and go Bahhhhh bahhhhhhhing along. I have always dreamed of having a news paper or program that just reported the facts as they are with there history with out prejudice, and in cases where there is more then one side show all sides and let the people decide where the truth is. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

We are starting the Open water training next weekend. I can't wait. That’s the other thing I wanted to do since I was a kid. The only thing left now is driving a F1 car...............don't think that will happen. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Maybe they can take another step and like Israel just kill anyone that gets in they’re way including woman and children. After 50+ years of murder the Israelis must have become great teachers in the art of killing by now. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I love how are media works. One kidnapped Israeli solder is a huge deal. Israel killing hundreds of inocent Palestinian not even worth a mention and the sheep follow. Bahhhhhhhhh Bahhhhhhhhh I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hi Mike I did that as well. I don;t know the company name but i am writing to the adress Dave found. Thank you for all the help. I love this place(dz.com) I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Thank you Dave. I will be writing them a letter today. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You were my first guess John ALways knew you had a thing for me I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No dude no clue. I have called it rings busy and when it does ring no one picks up. i already don;t like telmarketors and i really don;t like this one. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

He only talks to the woman when i grab the phone he hangs up. He sounds like he is masterbaiting and saying preverted things. Not really kept a log it happens like once every 3-6 months. Sometimes 3 times a week and sometimes we don;t hear anything from the guy for a year. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

This has been going on for 5 years now. I have tried calling the local police, we have called the police at Baytown TX , and have reported to the unlawful call center. Have no clue what else to do about it. We have found out that it is a marketing company. The number he calls from is 281-424-4910. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Any one with any intelligence can see that if Israel really wanted peace they wouldn’t be storming beaches and killing inocent civilians including children. Any one with any intelligence would see that the Palestinians are willing to go against their belief for the fear of dying and war. Simple fact there was no Israel 58 years the people living on the land that is now called Israel were Palestinians. I think them willing to agree to something that is so wrong shows how much they do want peace, as always Israel will bully them then wonder why they are so hated. Here is a clue if you want peace don't steel land, kill children, murder peace activists and treat people as if they are a lower species then you and you will have peace. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I am sure storming beaches and killing people with canon fire doesn’t really help the peace. It’s a two way street. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I said there guys dude.