Darius11

Either way I wouldn't take too personally if I were you I am sure dmcoco84 didn’t mean any thing by it. You often have thread here that start with Muslims this and Christians that, very rarely do people take the time to say SOME. I think most at least I hope most of us realize NO ONE knows what everyone is thinking or will think, And gross over generalizations are usually incorrect. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Well just the thread title alone would implement such. “Losing THE Jews” I am sure not all Jews feel the same about it, the proper way would be to say “losing some Jews” but I didn’t start the thread. However I did suggest and I am still suggesting, that Votes don’t out weigh what is right, and that if a person an American citizen is making decisions solely on what’s good for Israel, then there not really an American citizen are they? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Follow up question to any criminal lawyers or DA out there. If armed men who do not announce themselves as cops break my door down, and I end up killing them all. Who is at fault? What are the rules? I was under the impression that if I answer there knock, they would have to show ID, Show Warrant and then break in if I refused or did not respond in the first place? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/jose-guerena-arizona-_n_867020.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C66223 FUCKING STUPID COPS. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Well not everyone’s soul is for sell , and not everyone takes the root of hypocrisy and lies just for the a sense of camaraderie they feel. Good to see a president with a backbone who does the right thing even if it will lose him some votes. All we have been doing by BLINDLY supporting Israel all these years was prove that we are hypocrites. No one respects a hypocrite. I find it much more disturbing that fellow Jewish Americans tend to be more loyal to Israel or there religion then to the United States. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You mention the 'shrinking of Israel' - Israel has been expanding by the forced decline of the so-called Palestinian territories, yet no one saw this as a 'shrinking of Palestine" Fact of the matter is that through the last century Israel has continued to widen it's occupied areas and Palestinians have been forced to occupy smaller and smaller areas. You seem to be concerned of Israel being 'wiped of the map', but yet that's what's been happening to the Palestinians. If anything, I see it more diplomatically wise to give Palestine some borders in an agreement, though making sure it's a sufficient area. Then should they act in violence in an attempt to further expand, then at least any defence on Israel's part would be warranted. Right now they're given nothing and when they try to get anything (What they had before) they're punished. I'm not saying it will solve anything, but I see it as fair and better than just refusing. Great Posts both of them. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You cant lump up “terrorist” groups well you can but then you would be wrong. They are all not fighting for the same thing or the same reason. In the case of Hamas, there tactics are disgusting and they kill many inocent people. However they are the only ones to actually fight back and they use what is available to them which is not much. I have a feeling if an American gave his life for the country he would be viewed as a hero, I can understand how someone in Hamas can be viewed as such by a Palestinian who is living a desperate life. There fight is about land, Religion is how you can motivate people, specilly the poor and hopeless. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The key word there is preemptive Israel launched a preemptive strike against Egypt after the Egyptians moved forces into the Sinai, kicked out the UN observers and blockaded Israel's access to the red sea, all of which are acts of war. Syria had a military pack with Egypt and joined the war and Jordan joined based on the Egyptian lies that Israel was about to be destroyed (Israel urged king Hussain to stay out of it) Yes there was an escalation of forces on the boarders. That is not an act of war. However actually attacking the people who our on there side of the boarder IS. That’s the issue with this recurring Israeli Palestinian debates. The Israeli supporters have no standard. You want to pick and choose which international laws you like and even in that you are not consistent. Simply they want to do what they want and will use wherever justification they can put together at the time. The term “preemptive strike” is an act of war. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Nope, you have an ASSumption of this. But you have no actual proof. That's the difference between the two. And you have proff if you have eyes. no ones fault you keep looking the other way. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Hey man. We have lived in the same culture so I know what you are talking about. There is a huge emphasis on education in some cultures. “Seek Knowledge till the day you die” thing. I think it has many positives: almost every Iranian I know has some sort of higher education. Therefore they tend to have more money and more prestige (if that shit matters to you to many it does). However I think the reason there is such a huge emphases on higher education is because you can’t make a decent living in Iran unless you have a masters or more. I don’t think that’s a good thing I also have never liked the arrogance of our culture. I hate that people who do manual work are looked down on. All in all I think the culture here is better, please understand I didn’t say perfect but if I had to choose I would like the low pressure do what makes you happy and what your passionate about method more then become a doctor or an engineer or be looked down on. At the end of the day its your life and you should choose what you want, what if you don’t want to be an engineer? And in that environment are you ever really able to even know what you want to be? Every kid in Iran was going to be a doctor or engineer how many of them would have wanted to if they had the freedom of mind to think about something else. I guess I am from the Omar Khayom Iranian way of mentality. Drink be merry as there might not be a tomorrow. Oh and FUCK prestige. The disclaimer to everything I said is that I was an absolute BLACK SHEEP in Iran. Even some of my cousins were told not to hang out with me. So i know i was not the norm. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TRk8xzKpAw Gets great after 2:39 Do not watch if you lack a sense of humor. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InxupFUMcE4 Bunch of mistakes in there. hope u enjoy it anyway. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

ricochet maybe? Unless you have people using suppressors for very selective work you are not going to use a subsonic round. Well I guess some low power shot gun shells would be sub sonic as well but he did say rifle. I stay with my first guess ricochet. Edit to add: Oh and distance is too close. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Ignorance / Innocence - Would love to believe the world was a ferry tale and there is such things as Karma and all that shit. The reality is very harsh I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

War will exist until there are fascist )in the world and until resources are an issue. When we progresses to the point where all people realize you should not force your way on to others, and until the day our technology makes basic resources easy to get by all there will be war. Please keep in mind basic resources change with the standard of living. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

If your predetermination’s of someone is stronger then what they are telling too your face; then there would never be a need for a discussion. My point was I understood what David Barton was trying to say and John Stewart seemed to purposely ignore it and then jump to his predetermination of what he thought he was saying. To me it was a clear case of a person who is not arguing the facts but arguing because they don’t like the facts and wish they were different. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

great interview, however i have never seen JS miss the point so much. http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-4-2011/exclusive---david-barton-extended-interview-pt--1?xrs=share_copy I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

If you focus on the Radicals of any group your usually missing most of the picture, and there will always be Radicals to focus on. Just sayin I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Had to look him up but glad i did. Thanks. Just listened to Hold on any suggestion on which song i should listen to first? Edit: Just listened to "gods away on Bussines" its like an accoustic death metal song. Never heard anything like it.

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Love Pink Floyd, and Pearl Jam. Yea that's me singing with a cold. The song was all done in the last 3 hr. before i get my actuall voice back. Wish my voice would stay this low. This is the 2nd time i have used a cold to sing on a song. It sounds better then me without a cold Thanks for taking the time to listen. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5gT1fmlQI I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No wonder i have such happy hands I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Praise Allah! thats funny I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Sila is smoking hot. However I don’t get and never have gotten how showing your pussy to the world is liberating but whatever makes her happy. She had the choice and did what she wanted, people also have the choice to think she is a whore or a saint. If she grew up in a conservative family she knew the reaction would be what it is she should not be surprised at ALL. However it is her choice and any one who thinks they have the right to spit on her or god forbid anything worst is way out of line. Oh on a side note I LOVE THAT SHE HAS SOME BUSH, i hate the all shaved look. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain