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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE65D00R20100614 But let me guess they are wrong too they must just hate jews to be sayng anything. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

shows how much you know. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Yea and instead of sarcasm and bull shit if you have reasons or a set of standards that you apply to reach a conclusion feel free to share them. I take any ones lack of ability to debate there case as a sign that they have a weak case. Often they didn’t think it trough. Their mentality didn’t go any further then “these guys are my group so I will stand up for them no matter what”. When people run out of reasons but have built there whole foundation on a false belief that even they can not defend they tend to get angry. I get nasty PMs from them when they simply have lost the ability to debate or state their case. Its satisfying to win debates or even better validates your own way of thinking with logic, however at the same time when people are hypocrites we have no sense of justicebecause all they do is twist and bend to fit their agenda. Oh let me guess the next replay will be a grammar error that I made. Like I said before pathetic I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Wow that was pathetic. This is why its impossible to have an intelligent conversation with some you. You do understand the difference between an edit video, and a false video right? You also do know that IDF is military right? You do know people were killed by bullets right? Seriously I don’t know why but I expected more from you then noise. What’s odd and very sad is even when you and amazon cant answer questions you still blindly support the other side with noise. I am still waiting to hear her justification for a whole village being massacred. And your answers to my questions. I don’t think I will get an answer because that would actually require thinking and maybe having some logic for the way you feel and not just emotion. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

If we don't answer any of your questions, then you'll not post any more! I'll take that deal, seems fair since you don't answer any questions that challenge your assertions. Please, don't take that as an invitation to reply. Trust me you already have shown your class in the PMs you have sent. For the record i actully take the time Answer questions over and over, but i do not get the same respect when it comes to some. And here is a little reminder for you as you seem to have NO CLUE on fairness Or justice. If you don’t want a replay you should not do that by replaying, just like only a dumb fuck would send a PM asking not to receive PMs. I know I know in your world your special and think you get your own set of rules. But here is a hint treat people like you want to be treated. That can be a life lesson for you. Let me know when you need another one i hope its soon. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Well I assumed you have logic and your response sounded like someone who has not followed the comments back and forth and someone who is having a knee-jerk reaction. Your replay was so stupid and unrelated to the pervious conversation that I assumed you had not read the many back and forth comments. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt if you give me the same respect by answering a few of my questions. Yes Sorry that’s not a yes or no question. I am sure all of the people (as most seamen and working people had knives and items that can be used as clubs) and one boat used these items as weapons which can kill. The others did not. No You have proof only if you believe the edited video the Israelis showed (they did not offer the whole tape) and if you believe that the Israelis word is the gospel. Any one taking the Israelis words or the Palestinians as the sure description of the vents is an idiot. Yes the Israeli edit version. If you are stabbing me then I will protect my self with deadly force, but First wquestionf or you 1.whose fault is it if I am the one who entered your home by force? Are you wrong for stabbing me then? 2. Do you believe that the systematic group punishment of civilians is inhumane? 3. Do you think an embargo that did not allow shoes, cloths, note books etc is for the Israeli safety or for the punishment of the people of gaza? 4. Would you have any anger in your heart if a committee decides that because of the war in Iraq and the loss of inocent lives there? The US government is giving land (which happens to be your town) away to some Muslims to make a Muslim state? Trying to keep this short. But please include the history and perspective. You have no other place to go and the new Muslims have all the power. If you want you can become part of the Muslim State or get the fuck out. What would your reaction be? I guess the same reasons your not on your way to Israel. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Because as usual your post is nothing but bullshit. Did you tell what is your excuse for the murders in the village is yet? No you have nothing to add but noise. I'll talk to you when you actually take the time to THINK and answer a question. As I have for all of you repeatedly on here. It seems you lack even the simplest idea of justice and fairness. So what did the man, woman and children do to deserve to be systematically murdered again? THATS right you have nothing to say. When you do let me know. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Fixed that for you. Just the fact that you assume its only one side using propaganda tells me you are not objective. Your view of the Israelis is way to one sided. Historically they do not allow an independent source to ever investigate their incidents, What does that tells you ? Do you really think they would do a probe and find them selves guilty? It is so stupid to just accept the accused to do its own investigating to see if they find them selves guilty is it not? If they have nothing to hide let an independent group do the investigating. Don’t cut the tape and only show what you want show the whole thing. If they wanted law they would have allowed UN peacekeepers in they didn’t because they know there actions are criminal. If not what do they have to hide? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Either you have not been reading the thread and the related posts or as usual your jumping in the circle jerk that often happens in SC. Yes exactly like that. Stupid sheep that celebrate other people’s murder and try to excuse it by making lame excuses that they can never backup with any set of standards. Yea good example turtle those people in the video are applying the same logic as the blind Israeli supporters. I know you have already sold your soul. But WTF here are some facts. The video is edited by the Israelis only the portions they wish to show are what you see. Two. A ship full of humanitarian aid was boarded by force in international waters. The Ship was under a turkish flag The Israelis broke the law first, not to mention the the blockade it self is illegal, so are the boarders Israel holds. Off course that’s according to the UN and the international community. Now when you as you predictabley will claim that the UN and the international community is void in your opinion. There is your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of others who support every action the Israelis do. Yes I did just type that. I find many people on here really to many to name and even in life have zero moral backbone. They fold, and they twist right and wrong just so they can feel ok about there own actions. To me people like this are worthless they swing with the wind and are generally selfish and will manipulate facts and even there own sense of right and wrong simply so they can do as they wish. I have said this so many times. But if you set a standard for right or wrong then that standard should be applied to all in the same manner. When you change what’s right or wrong depending on who is doing the action and not the action it self then you are a hypocrite. You find this in parents. They know an action like rape is a horrible action but if there son gets accused of it they tend to reach for excuses that they would never look for if it was there daughter that was claiming rape. Again your jumping on the band wagon. Read Amazons reply. We are talking about a massacre of man, woman, and child that is documented by some Israelis and known as fact. Her replay was Which is basically saying nothing useful or even coherent. And if you know any thing about the Nazi and the holocaust you must know that there were many deniers, and many people who thought the stories werent true. My point was and is that whenever horrors happen there are many people who support the horrors not by knowing the action but simply by being blindly loyal to an idea. I think her inability to except what happened in that village but still feeling the need to make some sort of replays is exactly that type of mentality. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

What are you referring to? Any thing in particular that relates to the village? Or are you just out of any thing useful to say and just spewing the same garbage as usual? So what’s your position? that the man woman and children in the village deserved to be murdered? So what’s do you use to excuse this one? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I don’t think your capable of seeing anything when you keep your eyes so firmly shut. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Very well thought out replay glad you stepped out of your comfort zone. So what’s the excuse for the massacre of a whole village again? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really. What does your replay have to do with a historical fact of a village that was destroyed and villagers that were massacred? Really your like a little kid throwing a tantrum who is not getting her way. You know when a logical intelligent person finds out facts that disagree with their perception two things can happen. 1. They recheck their priorities and understand that maybe they have been wrong all along 2. They simply throw mental tantrums because they can not accept what the have based there mental foundation on has been false. Therefore sacrificing their logic and intelligence for the comfort of feeling right. Even if they are far from it. So what’s the excuse your making for the massacre of the villagers again? Sarcastic generalizing comments. I am sure the Nazis made jokes and excuses too, I sometimes wonder do you think the Nazis were bad people because they killed people or are you just mad that they killed Jews? You do understand that killing people even when Jews do it is still wrong right? What a fucked up world some of you live in. People = People Your constent generalizing statements just show ignorance in its purest form.. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Watch the videos done in Israel by Israel’s. Oh wait they disagree with you so they must not be credible either. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo16wgAC798&feature=PlayList&p=0ACA353B7DF256A4&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=12 Deir Yassin Remembered part 1. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Deir Yassin happens as he stated according to the Israelis actually. They killed man woman and child so they could expand and take over their village. Then used that event to scar more people out of their homes. To deny that there is and has been some truly despicable actions by the Israelis is just asinine. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

yea i didn't get it or it just was not funny. I waited for some funny punch line that never came. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

What a stupid comment. How many murders happen in the US. Year? Make sure u make thread for eachone from now on. And don't for get to mention every one that is violance commited by people who share the same religion. U can use that as an excuse for all crimes comitted by people who do not share the same religion. GREAT LOGIC. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

To be fair i found the whole thing. and the whole thing covers both sides.But its longer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-v-_CyDSgE I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe6qdXqBvLA At least more people are seeing the truth I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Ok the first one is short and shows old metal objects that seem rusted. Lets say for they are rockets still i don;t see what the 20 sec video is suposed to prove. The 2nd is a video posted by fightIslamicCensore3 that says nothing other then show people shooting rockets. 3rd one is news report about rockets 4th one is a dude dragging a child. Under the title terororist using child as humane sheild. I guess if you consider random youtube videos as evidence that could be your first issue. Again I am sure you approach watching those videos with the preemptive thought (evil Muslims) it might just fule your fire but kind of pointless videos. But I mean really what’s your point? You and your fellow Israel supporters talk about the BBC and Reuters not being a valid source but random videos on youtube with no explanation is the gospel? Again are you that unaware of your hypocrisy? Also a reminder for you- I am not saying HAMAS are angels And don’t approve of any one killing civilians. My issue is that your side never stops making excuses for Israel when they do the same actions and worst only they have better technology. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

So you admiting that what you sad here Is bull shit then? At least thats a first step. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You tell us expert? And also fill in what happened in these instances. Oh and there are thousands more. Did they WITHSTRAINED running over the American girl with a bulldozer? How about the sniper talking about shooting the mother and her infant Massive bombs dropped on schools, civilin areas. Let me guess your excuse is all the Palestinians have been pushed in to a corner so if there is a bad guy in that crowded corner you pushed them in now you can kill them all and feel good about your self. Great logic. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You speak of jihadest, racism oddly most of you whoa are Israel supporters are the ones motivated by race and religion. As stated many times before you can not set a standard of right or wrong. International law, humanitarian law, or the UN in your world they only matter if they agree with you. Who is motivated purely by race and religion here? It sure looks like you guys are. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

BULLSHIT and you know it. When they dropped a 2000lbs bomb on a suburban area that killed 9 kids they didn’t know civilians including children would die? Really I think you need to put down the kool-aid. And last I checked if you call a murderer a murderer it doesn’t mean you hate Jews it means you hate murder. You constantly talk about jihad and the normal shit you spew out. Believe it or not life is not that black and white. You do not have to be a jihadest to understand there is suffering in Gaza and that Israel has a very long reputation of cruelty. But I guess in your world that would get too complicated. Keep things pure black and white in your head we wouldn’t want you too get a headache. And by the way That operation was considered a great success and Israel only apologized when international outrage was once again raised. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain