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me either. 176 posts, almost 100 jumps. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Then why support a study if you know what the conclusion must be? An unbiased study does not pressupose any answers. It sure isn't the case that we have plenty of money to spend on studies. I know what the study's conclusions would be because I have already read a few studies conducted. But I do support the feds conducting their own study because they will see that it won't work. SAAMI says it won't work. FOP says it won't work. I want the feds to realize it won't work, so that they don't do it. [H.R. 3491, The Ballistic Imaging Evaluation and Study Act of 2001, and its Senate counterpart, S. 2581] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Can I then assume you have no family, loved ones, or roommates in the house? I'm not looking for a fight either, but like I've said, if you come after my famliy I will do everything in my power to stop you from harming them. If you're in my home, that starts with placing me between you and them, and a gun between me and you with you looking down the business end. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Do you really belive Parris Glendening supports private gun ownership? [for those who don't know, he's te current MD governor] Let me tell you, he and KKTownsend do not support gun ownership in any way, shape, or form. I suspect that rather than giving a thumbs-down, they will come back with a result that the pro-gun lobby uses to try to kill fingerprinting, and the pro-control lobby uses to support fingerprinting. Business as usual, in other words. I don't care what either "lobby" says. Police have unanimously stated that money spent for this can be better spent elsewhere in law enforcement. I'll go with the guys in blue on this one. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Another person believing that "red neck beer swilling bumpkins" are the ones "blowing each other away" in recond numbers. It just ain't so. Not too many of those bumpkins living in the inner cities we keep talking about, are there. No one has brought up stats for Hickville, AL or Bumfuck, TX. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Stand in front of me and threaten my family's saftey. We'll see who knows what they are doing. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Then you must hate the media, huh? I mean, people use firearms in defense of self all the time. We all remember the day-trader from Atlanta who went out and blew away all those people, right? Well, who here knew about that the very next day in the very same town, someone used a gun to defend himself and seventeen others from a suicidal homicidal? [the suicidal homicidal left a note saying he was going to take a bunch of others with him] It's only telling the truth if you tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Prohibition: Where did the violence come from? Racketeering. What caused the racketeering? The black market in booze. What caused the black market in booze? Prohibition. Hence, prohibition caused an increase in crime. War on drugs: see above caption substituting gang-banging for racketeering and drugs for booze. And this, in large part is why we have a monstrous murder rate. You said it yourself kallend, the people knocking each other off in record numbers are drug dealers and gang-bangers. I don't need statistics to tell me that. I am still 100% convinced, the more the government butts out, the better things will run. The government that governs least governs best. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Actually, a few people here mentioned that. Bill, theoretically, I would agree with you. With a limited, non-intrusive, trustworthy government, I wouldn't necessarily be against registering firearms either. But, we've established for the most part that this does not work as proposed and is not supported by police officers by and large. Now just show me a limited, non-intrusive, trustworthy government. That begs the question why register firearms. You'll notice the people [if we can call politicians that] suggesting implementing "ballistic fingerprinting" are the same ones that support gun control up one side and down the other. Now, not that anyone has mentioned it, there is a bill before both houses suggesting a study on the effectiveness and implementation of ballistic fingerprinting. It's been there since sometime in 2001. I'm all for this bill [and so is the NRA by the way], though I can predict the outcome of the studies if they are done impartially. They'll come back with a great big thumbs-down. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, I gotcha. The love is back in the room. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

The thread caught my interest, and I noticed the reference to the Post. Plus, since the federal governement is in my business for the moment, what they do affects me. Besides, it's just my two cents. What got you so alarmed? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Zennie, so very well put. Thank you.

Right, because the Washington Post would never distort the truth. Ever. Honest. blah. How many of us know all the infobits and technobits involved in out national security? ANyone who says me is wrong or lying. Media speculation does not equal factual information Being the libertarian I am, I couldn't care less what they're doing over there until someone asks me for help. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OOH RAH!! A meeting of the minds!! Yippee And on this happy note, I'm out of here for today. It's quiting time here in MD. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

This is where we disagree. I say the courts be damned, I'll own firearms regardless. This is one instance where I would break the law knowingly and intentionally. The slaves in the south didn't give a shit what the courts said. Their ability to choose was not recognized by the courts, but they knew what was theirs to take, and they did in any possible way. Put me in that position, and I'll do the same. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, that's your determination to make, but nobody is trying to pass a law saying that you are required to carry. Somebody is trying to pass a law saying I am REQUIRED to NOT be carrying. They are trying to take my ability to choose away from me. Hence my problem is with people trying to stop me from carrying, not people who choose not to carry themselves. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

But that's where the firearms=freedom issue jfields brought up comes in. People may choose to defend their family however they decide is best. I choose [will choose] to have a firearm, or firearms that I might avail myself to should SOMEONE ELSE 'put my family in harm's way.' This is where others infringe on my freedom. I am free to defend "life liberty and [my] pusuit of happiness." You can decide whether guns are right for you. You may NOT decide whether or not they are right for me. That's MY choice. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

It's one of the worst neighborhood sin Chicago and you've never felt threatened? You walk around without fear? Boy, you're brave. Or stupid. "Well, gee, I live in a dangerous neighborhood, but I've never been attacked, just lots of others. But I'm not those others, so I have nothing to worry about." Is THAT your mentality? How bad can a neighborhood be that you go about your business not worrying about where you are? I can walk around a friends acres-wide property where nothing has ever happened but still be constantly aware that it could. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

In which case, please explain the logic that carrying a concealed gun might have saved me from the assault. I must be missing something here. You are missing two somethings. First, the possibility that citizens are armed deters criminals [shown by countless studies; criminals go from AZ to CA, not vice versa]. Second, if you had been carrying in your particular case, and you feared for you life [as you stated you did] then you could have drawn. You may even have gotten away with only pointing it at him. That'll stop lots. If that didn't stop him, you'd have been in a position to defend yourself. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You couldn't do it? Well I HAD TO! It just plain frickin sucks. After a landlord threatens you with a gun though, you generally want to leave, even if it means giving up the DSL. [of course, the bastard held the security deposit] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

"without runnin inta nine guys you f*ck*d!!!" witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

go crazy? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

holy hell, thanks man! I didn't know about the site or the sequel. sweet! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

My favorite movie. Period. Abolutely great. Any movie where a cat becomes a fine red mist is a good moive [with the requisite glob, of course]. [to whoever said Rosco, his name is Rocco] I'd say best scene is the courthouse scene. "NOW you will receive us" witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

now wait just a darn minute. I'm a guy, 22, in college, and a skydivier, and sitting down on the shore, accoring to your analysis, JUST DON'T FIT! witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*