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This is fun. As usuall I see you are picking apart every detail. Being obviously left i was surprised to see you give a thumbs up to nuclear power. This was a "lets say" poll. I didnt want to sraw this out to the fact that Chavez(venezuela) and Iran are tight. We happen to get alot of oil from ther to you know. What if we were down to our oil and Canada( the oilsands operations/refineries are owned by American companiies/we get 90% of it)it could be that we might have restrictions along with 5.00/gallon gas. Also in this quiz is a smear to the lefts that love Al Gore. The facts are simple: skydiving is a use of fuel solely for entertainment. Skydivng uses planes which have no emmisions control and wouldnt be approved by fullon tree huggers "go ride a bike' go mountian climb, go BASE jump if you need and hike back" This was just a poll to see how left you really are, and see how silly you are making comments about war so we can drive our SUVs... so why dont you explain how skydiving is a left wing, earthfriendly sport. This is a skydivers forum..right? Quit playing innocent, we would all love to see jump prices back to $13-15/13k and need to get some tryants out that threaten to stop or destroy crude if they cant have their WMDs. How left will you be when you cant comment on forums, because small nukes have fried our country? www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Lets just say that between the environment and the oil crisis, all "entertainment use" of fossil fuel was restricted. This was due to the fact we stopped all war and gave up went home. Gasoline restricions like back in the 70s. Or we continued fighting for the freedom of Iraq, and get business back to usual. Not looking for critisism. Just true feelings. I am seeing a lot of comments on SUVs and all the other envirocrap and why we are at war. So if our war and maybe upcoming war was over oil, where is your real stand? Also the option of Iraq sanction and expensive jumps. Answer honestly..this is a blind vote www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Just because your a moderator doesnt give you the right to be a dickhead. I never mentioned anything about steam engines. Why dont you look back instead of making me the point of your woes. Someone else chimed in about steam engines aftter i mentioned henryford and petroleum needed and soforth. yeah so I am on Morphine, whats your excuse? It is funny how you read how liberals tend to pick on looks or someones personal problems when they are losing an arguement. A true sign of weakness. Fact is that the arabs would have had nothing as far as riches in oil if it wasnt for europeans/americans. USA has always been the largest user of oil. I just like watching peeps scramble for facts or so called facts. Lucky is my favorite. I already figured out from earlier posts is not a skydiver just a forum jumper. I mentioned it earlier and now he just follows and follows. Shit, i dont even know how to do this qoute qoute crap. But billvon oh billvon my favorite is your SUV comment..or was that lucky the forum nonskydiver.. HELLO..dont you think jumplanes use a LOT MORE petroleum products then suvs??? Thats right..go on talking shit about SUVs and blood for oil. You goahead and get on that flight with biodiesel Edit: oops almost forgot..you figure how we are going to fly cessnas or do you just shit on small DZs? www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Youre premise aqbout Ford... DUDE.. that is laughable... you did not READ the rest of that did you... you asked for WHO invented the Internal Combustion.... guess what... Last time I checked Steam sure as hell is not EXTERNAL...... so if you want Gas or Diesel Power....... OOOOPS.... it was those smart dudes in Germany Daimler unt Benz. I know its hard.. but you have LOTS of time on your hands... perhaps YOU can go do some research...for yourself. Thanks for the show of a true genius. Steam does not combust. Internal combustion remember? As far as other comments form others..who gives a shit. fact is whether is was the british navy, the Klingons, or whoever you want to fill the blank; technology found them, they didnt find it. They would of had nothing with out american/europian minds www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Source: Global Research Gosh, there sure are a lot of goofy college professors and scientists out there... I knew this was a big set up to take our mind off of the encnomy and stock crash of summer 2001, all our work in China, and of course to kill Hillary and then bring people together in a false patriotism!! Then I finally dropped the crack pipe. I cant wait to see how many books these professors sell on this. With all the governemnt funded college cuts they needed to find some way to pay the bills. hey the liberals will buy this up like the4 Bible. God bless capitalism! www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

I used to think that way until I woke up. Of course ive got the rap by now of the evil conservative. I am not a fan of the Bush asministration. To compare our history and the middleeast's is just wrong. Since when did we take hostages in embassy? (go ahead and pipe in on Japanese amercans WWII..that was a worldwar and shoudnt waste thread space) Maybe we should get an age poll on here so we can get an idea of who was around when. Don't forget most of these people hate us for our Judeo Christian majority, or are pressured by thereof. Ofcouse they hate Isreal also. Iraq did invade Kuwait. That got stopped, quick. As much as we like to hate the CIA, they know alot more than we do. The UN had allready quoted that they want all UN countries to limit guns to military and police. I hate the U.N. I think most of them are jealous of our success. If we did such, we would hand ourselves on a platter to China. You better look at the size of their militia. If Iran and Iraq wanst lead by such religious fanatics, I dont think there would be a problem. We let Germany run on nukes. The islamics there have a whole different line of thinking than us. Nobody here even thinks the way they do. This is a whole different situation than we are used to encountering, just like it was with Japan in WWII. Do you actually think that the UN can keep their eyes on them, at all times? The middle east is very confusing,one day ally one day not. To call you own country terrorists, thats really nice. It seems to me we give warnings, plenty first. If we werent moderators in this NUCLEAR AGE, i am sure we would allready be sucking in fall-out from them bombing each other with small nukes. www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

I forgot to mention.. who gives a shit about 1769? your talling about steam...they didnt use gasoline..If we relied on gasoline to make steam, the railways woud have been years behind. If your going to counterpoint me..at least keep it to my point of Middle east oil...Bozo the Clown could have came up with steam or gasoline, I dont care. Who started the big kick for black gold? maybe you have the time to search and find out www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Well Davinci came up with the flying machine also , but how long before we flew. He despised organized labor? Could be. The whole point is that until his mass production of the internal combustion engine, there would have been no use for foreing oil. None. I guess I dont take this squabble as serious and dont try to hunt down counter facts, if they are even actual facts at all, on the internet. We can go to the Alexander Bell conspiracy too, why not? Im only writing on these paasing time while injured. Damn morphine keeps you awake. At least i didnt fill a page. So did Hans Schrueber of the first 3 cylinder, or Milli Vannili the maker of the first refrigerated ice cream truck, help the middle east find a use for their black goo? www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Cute page, an ultimate genius. www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Hmmm I am trying to think of another country that was started by right wing conservatives??? www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

that poll is a quagmire www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Hey now, those kennedys were po folk to the thread heres the coincidence thread..i think it was better..im getting tired http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2437707#2437707 notice the time on it i just wrote about henry ford,lol But really i think the liberal ideals are great. Every russian I know wants to go back home. You meet alot of neat people standing in bread lines www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Wow, did you read a response i just wrote or is this just coincidence? I am so glad you dug up SOME facts,now get ready for the richochets. Henry Ford, yes Henry Ford the one responsible for making the internal combustion engine. The one that actually found a use for that sticky black goo. The one that all arab nations should hail for releasing them from poverty. I wrote this earlier and I wil write it again. I wonderer if all liberals still hang out with someone that they have helped so tremendously that screwed them badly later. They would not have shit if it wasnt for these white Christian men that set up everything for them. Arabs only knew how to herd sheep, make swords and knit carpets. they didnt have our technical brains. We gave them an economy with this once worthless sticky black goo. If you go to saudi arabia you see how many Lambis the kids just trash. they are filthy rich. All Arabs would still be using camel shit for firewood if it wasnt for Henry. Now only some are, like the oppressed in Iraq. You liberals are right ,we shouldnt had to goto war. Not the first time when Hussien invaded Kuwait,first off. That strike should have been the "OK we wont mess with other oil producing countries". Bin Laden wouldn't have had family wealth if it wasnt for us, and he says "death to America". Hussien who shold have straightend out his shit, and shared the wealth with his countrymen , like Kuwait does, needed to be removed. What if this was just about oil? it seems to me that America GIVES some countries wheat, instead of charging quadruple because its in DEMAND! We should be getting this stuff cut rate, it should be just as cheap as grain. "Blood for oil" you all cry...shit this is like giving someone a house, a car, and a good job, to have them burn you house down, get our boys out and nuke em then, the ungrateful Jihads. Oh, dont worry about the NWO, that will happen after you get Hillary in, and we cant own guns as individuals, and her and hollywood goons get to be the pigs in Animal farm while the Chinese keep you under Martial Law order. You liberals do such a great job keep believing everything you read www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Oil was definitely a factor. Remember when you wrote this, on 3/2/2003? "I also get a kick out of those who whine about the cost of going to war and how much the long term cost will be. After the Gulf War in 1991, 80% of the 80 Billion the U.S. spent was reimbursed by Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Remember, Iraq is not without natural resources. I'm sure going to enjoy filling up my SUV with that $.49 per gallon Iraqi oil. Hmmmm......... I kinda like that idea." Wow, you are so prescient. Bush's war has been really a bargain for the taxpayers, and those low gas prices... OK thats it.. for all f*&(ng liberals that want to go on this...yeah maybe it is about oil. what if it is? I suppose all you liberals still hang out with someone you helped in a big way alot of their life and they turn around and screwed ya. Who invented the internal combustion engine automobile and in what country? Cmon know you liberals can answer that one. What the hell was this worthless sticky black goo until then. Do you realize how much we helped the arabic countries, our tecnical minds to make their Palace? Ever been to Saudia Arabia? Someskydivers have..you know who i am talking about. They are rich to where kids buy a Lambi and crash it , then trash the next. Fact is oil should be less than water to us. Without us, and Henry Ford all of them would still be using camel shit for firewood, now ony a few do, like the oppressed in Iraq. Your right on one point, this war should have never happened, either should the first one when Suddam invaded Kuwait. Every single Jihad instead of calling us the devil should have said..OK thats what happens when we bugger another oil supplying country. Bin Laden, the ungrateful cocksucker would have never had family riches if it wasnt for white, American/anglo whatever he wants to hate ,men, that found a use for that worthless black goo. So while you liberals want to say conseravtives are war mongers, why the hell dont you see us as fighting back on someone that betrayed us in the least. Thats if this was about oil. I dont know why liberals dont understand that arabs only knew how to herd animals and make sword and carpets. Look at how we just GIVE food away, we dont charge a high rate for wheat to a country because its in DEMAND...ooh that gotta hurt! www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Wow I see there is still people that think the Ireland conflict has to do with religion. Do you maybe think they did that in the name of the motherland, not God? I would pretty surely guess they kiilled the nun in the name of their diety allah. I dont think either party will argue that point. So now that this bounced to Ireland and Catholics, suppose next someone is going to go onto the priest/little boy slam..typical God hating liberal move...where is it....of course its all cool that some faggot grade school teacher speakes openly of his teabagging adventures with his students. I got a great idea.. how about we dress homo gradeschool teachers in Nun suits? Im sure they would like the crossdress and the blasphemy..suprise! I hope you like you quick I bounced that! We really need more smiley choices www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

I like your humor, I bet you also belong to a DZ to a group that goes to other small DZs, mostly jumpers that are older that give you nicknames that are either offensive or jab a little because your all friends and nobody takes anything seriously or personal. I really love the iraqi oil qoute I cant wait for 13k jumps to be $8 also..Just goto Brazil or Venezuela! I like how the guy talking has real white hands in the video..he really has a nice Iraqi accent too www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Such a great sample size, must be a reliable, representative survey. Also, look at the Regan son, he was abron coserv, yet now very lib; libs are often made from too much conservatism, so I don't see an absolute correlation between conserv parents and conserv offspring. I only posted because I found it amusing. I didn't actually expect anyone to take it seriously and dissect it. You think this is bad? please visit my thread"how liberals spent our tax dollars" the fact is that alot of us that grew up middleclass, blue collar dad,mom at home, grew up Dem and were taught Dem. things have changed. Clinton broke the camels back with China free trade. Most went green party. Fact is now that the Dem party represents gun control, special queer rights, the infliction of the Rite of marriage. Affirmative action-the anti-white bill, taking God out of the Pledge of alligiance, oh and the big one..teach gradeschoolers about butt pirates..thats it enough..keep your perversion to the bedroom and quit trying to convince kids that it is "normal", it confuses their innocent minds. Sex ed is not suppose to be till high school anyway. This is why there is more red than blue, they have lost their honest workingman family vote. Hope this clears this up to some..you might just find out your a closet conservative! www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Nice one! Like the non-partison part, both parties higher ups are scandoulous, some actually believe one represents the poor www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Oh for the love of God! I am just a skydiver who femured thats got nothing better to do but stir up shit with liberals and their viewpoints. I really am laughing my ass off. So I suppose all the loudmouth actors in Hollywood dont have capitalism..yeah they all live in huts and give their money to the poor..COME ON! A conservative will look at this person as no more than a murderer and should have allready got the electric chair. A liberal sees a murderer or pedophile, or rapist as "someone who is sick that has issures in childhood, maybe we can FIX him":. Liking money is not a conservative view, and there are MANY RICH LIBERAL LAWYERS out there. I seriously have enjoyed the psychobabble about gay, trangender, transformer...I like transformers..they JUICE MURDEROUS SCUM RIGHT TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG. The fact is why chould we care about how scary it could be for him/it. He commited murder, and now he wants the taxpayers to pay for a sex change??? I was expecting "fuck you"s "right ons" and jokes like downward spiral did. Come on someones gotta jab liberals. I am not a fan of Bush or the current Republican party, but fair is fair, right. Someone has gotta defend the conservative view instead of this skewed rich/poor thing. Wow cant believe I wrote this much. That was fun, Thanks Edit: forgot a quotation mark..no need to add to the confusion and yeah my typing sucks excuse my errors, im not a white collar conservative www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Are you TRYING to give conservatives a bad name? What? Oh yeah..thats right..I forgot all conservatives are rich and hate the poor........ A conservative lawyer would not respresent this worthless murderous piece of shit. Eating tax dollars that could go to poor. Guess which two states are the richest??? Guess what party the majority is??? Ohhh dont know? TRY NEW YORK AND CALIFORNIA! www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

heh heh jsut like a liberal to try to find some fact out to prove a conservative wrong....Ithough it was the liberals who think the government ,especially the MILITARY, si hiding/covering up stuff...maybe that little candybar internet information you got was a military cover up for the irresponsible loss of two sailors lives. Damn..now you just lost something you could of worked on against the government! www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

try studying thier philosophies, Hitler was a socialist, a elite socailist, but still socialist. In the name calling game conservatives are called facists. .Sorry, buddy but being conservative doesnt make you a facist racist. thats where liberals are facist racist. They actually believe people of African decent cant be conservative....keep watching your blaxploitation flics. Why dont you talk to Larry Elder...he'd love to talk to you..Hes got a book "the 10 things you can't say in America" Token lib white male view of a black male, token www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

I gotta say, I am full on for stopping terrorism, but I had a roommate at Crosskeys, from Kenya, that was Muslim, not practicing, but still. Some know Washir. One of the most kindest people that I have met on my travels. One of those people I would trust with anything. Genuine person. Muslims and Islamo-facists are two different people. He is Black Muslim, I am not a religion expert. Washir was learnign to be a pilot and there was not one person there that would not trust him with their life. Kind of like not all Christians are radical right...but before a comment is made ther is still quite a difference between those "radicals" www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

thanks downward..i knew this would get some action.. my last "copy shortcut" worked, dont know why this didnt take... Oh someone else commented on the capital punishment, lol, I like sarcasm. Yes, is this about the biggest fuckup youve seen, can we excile these lib lawyers that waste our money....I wonder how many poor people could be fed on this absolute nonsense! Will someone please stab this guy in there and release all our misery? www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net

Nice story! here that happened in my hometown and I didnt hear it on radio,oh wait earlier this month..they didnt have details earlier this month. I will tyr to find a pic to attach. I can just see this skinny little crackhead charging to see Large Marge turn around. "oh shit!" hammer to head,(sound of metal on metal) Marge blinks eyes, crackheads eyes bugout like Buckwheat "cutaway!!!" ha ha too late asshole, now he'll be picking rocks out of Satans ass. www.911missinglinks.com the definitive truth of 9/11..the who and why, not how You can handle the TRUTH www.theforbiddentruth.net