from what i understand, Mcbain(not 100 jumps,almost 300) and his partner rehearsed this plenty. front risor turns,hard toggles etc... from 5000' trying to throw john off and couldnt do it. this kid may be "crazy" as everyone seems to think. but i was there when he was going through aff and the general concesus was he was a natual skydiver.Maybe(perish the thought!) his learning curve is a little steeper then the rest of ours. i think we should give him the benefit of the doubt.After all they DID land it and NO ONE was hurt, AND someone does have to be the first otherwise how can there be a second? A45109 75 jumps and counting!Quote[email]