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Jo Skyjack71 wrote "I know what he did. We were living in Ft. Collins when the money was found. I had picked up the newspaper and laid it on the dining room table commenting about the article on the front page but did not have time nor interest to read the entire article. That newspaper disappeared - he took it with him. A couple of wks later the TV was having a special on one of the programs like America's Most Wanted and doing a special segment about Cooper. I wanted to see that program and suddenly out of the blue Duane has arranged for us to go to dinner and to a bar on a WEEK DAY NIGHT - I remembered commenting to the wife (they owned and ran a local dry cleaners, but I do not remember their names) that I was sorry I wasn't very good company because I really wanted to see that program and she said she did too. Within a couple of wks Duane annouced that the company was taking his territory away from us and giving it to someone else. I would find out yrs later that he resigned. He was making fantastic money and doing a good job - I couldn't understand why. Now in retrospect I realize he was on the run - he was afraid someone would finger him and he wanted to get back to the annonmity of the South. Within in two wks he was gone - leaving me and my daughter in Ft. Collins. She was a senior and I was not pulling her out of school. He left in March and came back for her graduation in May and to help us pack." *********** If Duane thought the money find and the TV show would lead people at his Colorado job to suspect him as being Cooper, wouldnt his abrupt departure make him even more of a suspect? His quitting a great job and giving his wife a phony reason is definitely odd, but I don't see it as evidence that Duane was Cooper. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

sounds like no disguise other than sunglasses. Did he have them on at all times he was seen by crew? 377 "you do not need a parachute to skydive. you only need a parachute to skydive twice." 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Has anyone considered the possibility that Cooper used makeup to darken his facial complexion? It isnt uncommon for criminals (in environments where they couldnt wear a mask) to use wigs, hair dye, makeup and other devices to confuse or thwart possible later identification. Skin color is easily darkened with non glossy makeup that is hard to spot. It would have been a smart thing for Cooper to do. Much easier to darken skin than lighten it. Cooper must have thought about being recognized or identified later. Doesnt it make sense that he would have and taken steps to minimize that possibility? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I am a huge L&B fan, their customer service is beyond incredible, but my Altitron altimeter by Parasport Italia is a fine piece of gear. If the Parasport has features not offered by the L&B Optima, you might want to go Italian. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Wow! Was this at Antioch, Lodi or ? Did you ever think he was a dangerous/deranged person? Thanks for your help in putting him behind bars. Who made the connection between some crime scene fibers and skydiving? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Things to consider: bad spot and landing out freefall injury that makes it difficult to steer or flare cutaway to a large reserve canopy 18-20 mph of steady wind isnt a huge deal if everything goes well, but if it doesnt you'll wish you had set lower limits. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Its more common then you might think. Its used in quite a few different areas beyond skydiving. Instead of a non-reference list of applications, here's a link to a google search: http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&q=spectra+rope&btnG=Search I stand corrected. Never thought Spectra was so common. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Finally! We have proof that tandems cause crime. Bet they were all Skyride customers. Shut it down in the interest of public safety. If I were a criminal defendant the last thing I would mention is that I skydive. Skydiver is just a little bit behind gang member in the eyes of some people. Many older folks who dont really know the sport see skydivers as a kind of airborne Hells Angels. I'd be telling the probation officer that my hobby was helping crippled old ladies tend their rose gardens. I suppose they could strap you to a polygraph and play various Dytter and other audible altimeter warning beeps in a series with cell phone ring tones interspersed. Bet you could find the real skydiver every time. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Did a search for Kibbe in forums. One post says the TV news had a photo of him solo jumping and another said they thought the "rope" used to strangle his victims was Spectra which might explain how fiber analysis nailed him since Spectra cord is not a commonly found item. If he were a jumper you would think some folks here would have heard of him. What a true psycho killer. Sure glad he is in custody. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Anyone know this guy? Prisoner Accused Of Killing Six Women As 'I-5 Strangler' Save Email Print Posted: 4:21 PM Mar 8, 2008 Last Updated: 4:21 PM Mar 8, 2008 0 comments A | A | A STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) - A state prisoner suspected of being the "I-5 Strangler" could face the death penalty if he's convicted of six murders committed more than two decades ago along Interstate 5 in California's Central Valley. Roger Reese Kibbe, 68, was arraigned in San Joaquin County Friday on charges he murdered five women in 1986 and a sixth woman in 1977. He is currently serving a life term at Pleasant Valley State Prison in Coalinga for strangling a 17-year-old West Sacramento prostitute and leaving her naked body in the mountains south of Lake Tahoe in 1987. Investigators have long said they suspected Kibbe in the other slayings. El Dorado County prosecutors presented some of that evidence at his 1991 trial for Darcie Frackenpohl's murder. The runaway from Seattle was killed after she disappeared from a West Sacramento street frequented by prostitutes. At the time, the state Department of Justice said fibers from nylon rope used by skydivers was among the microscopic evidence linking Kibbe to three of the other slayings. Witnesses alleged Kibbe, who was a skydiver, had a murder kit including handcuffs and scissors. But prosecutors previously said the multiple jurisdictions where the crimes occurred and complications in state law made it difficult to press other charges. California law has since been changed to let one county prosecute crimes from several jurisdictions. Only one of the victims' bodies was dumped in San Joaquin County, but investigators from Sacramento, Napa, Contra Costa and Amador counties all testified before the San Joaquin grand jury that indicted Kibbe Feb. 25. He faces six counts of murder with special circumstances including rape, kidnapping and multiple murders that make him eligible for the death penalty. Kibbe, a furniture maker whose brother was a police detective, has been portrayed on television crime shows and was the subject of a 1999 book by Bruce Henderson entitled "Trace Evidence: The Search for the I-5 Strangler." Prosecutors released few details on the victims and would not comment. According to the indictment and media accounts, Kibbe is charged with the murder of Lou Ellen Burleigh of Walnut Creek in 1977 and five other slayings in 1986: - Stephanie Brown, 19, of Sacramento, was sexually assaulted, strangled, and her body dumped in a ditch. A crumpled map was found near her car parked along I-5. - Charmaine Sabrah, 26, a mother of three from Sacramento, disappeared after her car broke down along I-5 and she drove off with a strange man who offered to help. Her strangled body was found three months later. - Heedrick, 21, of Modesto, was last seen getting into a car. Her body was found along I-5 five months later. - The other two victims are Katherine Kelly Quinones, 25 and Barbara Ann Scott, 29. Kibbe, who has receding short white hair, is being held without bail for a court appearance Monday. He spoke briefly and barely audibly during Friday's arraignment, saying only that he wants an attorney appointed to represent him. (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) AP-NY-03-08-08 1750EST 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Wonder if the FBI is interested in an old knife that has some cord stuck in it - looks like parachute cord and it is real dirty? Where-ever he kept that knife it was there for a long time collecting dirt. There were some things I am glad I did not let the FBI have. There is someone in law enforcement who knows a lot about analyzing parachute cord fibers. CHECK THIS OUT: Prisoner Accused Of Killing Six Women As 'I-5 Strangler' Save Email Print Posted: 4:21 PM Mar 8, 2008 Last Updated: 4:21 PM Mar 8, 2008 0 comments A | A | A STOCKTON, Calif. (AP) - A state prisoner suspected of being the "I-5 Strangler" could face the death penalty if he's convicted of six murders committed more than two decades ago along Interstate 5 in California's Central Valley. Roger Reese Kibbe, 68, was arraigned in San Joaquin County Friday on charges he murdered five women in 1986 and a sixth woman in 1977. He is currently serving a life term at Pleasant Valley State Prison in Coalinga for strangling a 17-year-old West Sacramento prostitute and leaving her naked body in the mountains south of Lake Tahoe in 1987. Investigators have long said they suspected Kibbe in the other slayings. El Dorado County prosecutors presented some of that evidence at his 1991 trial for Darcie Frackenpohl's murder. The runaway from Seattle was killed after she disappeared from a West Sacramento street frequented by prostitutes. At the time, the state Department of Justice said fibers from nylon rope used by skydivers was among the microscopic evidence linking Kibbe to three of the other slayings. Witnesses alleged Kibbe, who was a skydiver, had a murder kit including handcuffs and scissors. But prosecutors previously said the multiple jurisdictions where the crimes occurred and complications in state law made it difficult to press other charges. California law has since been changed to let one county prosecute crimes from several jurisdictions. Only one of the victims' bodies was dumped in San Joaquin County, but investigators from Sacramento, Napa, Contra Costa and Amador counties all testified before the San Joaquin grand jury that indicted Kibbe Feb. 25. He faces six counts of murder with special circumstances including rape, kidnapping and multiple murders that make him eligible for the death penalty. Kibbe, a furniture maker whose brother was a police detective, has been portrayed on television crime shows and was the subject of a 1999 book by Bruce Henderson entitled "Trace Evidence: The Search for the I-5 Strangler." Prosecutors released few details on the victims and would not comment. According to the indictment and media accounts, Kibbe is charged with the murder of Lou Ellen Burleigh of Walnut Creek in 1977 and five other slayings in 1986: - Stephanie Brown, 19, of Sacramento, was sexually assaulted, strangled, and her body dumped in a ditch. A crumpled map was found near her car parked along I-5. - Charmaine Sabrah, 26, a mother of three from Sacramento, disappeared after her car broke down along I-5 and she drove off with a strange man who offered to help. Her strangled body was found three months later. - Heedrick, 21, of Modesto, was last seen getting into a car. Her body was found along I-5 five months later. - The other two victims are Katherine Kelly Quinones, 25 and Barbara Ann Scott, 29. Kibbe, who has receding short white hair, is being held without bail for a court appearance Monday. He spoke briefly and barely audibly during Friday's arraignment, saying only that he wants an attorney appointed to represent him. (Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) AP-NY-03-08-08 1750EST 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

"waste"? I know you really meant to say "spend" Guru. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Tell us about the seat save. They are not so common. Riggers everywhere have my eternal gratitude. They have saved me twice. Every time I see a successful cutaway I think about a rigger who took the time and care to do it right. What other professional will perform a lifesaving procedure for $60? You depend on your rigger as much as you do on your heart surgeon. You just pay him less. In a just world, riggers would never have to pay for beer and saves would earn them an extra $100 every time. Get some publicity outside of the skydiving press. I'll bet the local paper would do a story on your 100th save. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

T Dog wrote: "Final Comment: The jumper admitted hours after the reserve ride that he did not trust me since I was a new acquaintance, so while I told him I did not trust the rig, I was not creditable. He apologized, and I told him no apology needed." Congrats to the uncurrent A licensed jumper for handling the emergency successfully, BUT... what was he thinking jumping a rig where the same rigger who packed his reserve made some BIG errors in rigging his main??? That conditional free reserve repack offer was commendable and way above the call of duty T Dog. Your level of concern should have raised major caution flags with the jumper. I visited a DZ in the 60's intending to use their rental gear. A rigger who was also visiting told me that he wouldnt jump the gear because it showed poor maintenance (weak pilot chute springs, missing or loose tacks on stiffener plate, a loose strand on a ripcord cable, etc). I didnt have my own rig and ended up spending the day as a whuffo. When riggers talk I listen, no matter who they are. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You are right. In this case it was stretched between my sofa and kitchen while others were doing the work. The fact I saw it was not because it was delivered to me in any official capacity... I just happened to see things from a distance while walking around my house and I said: "I would not jump this until it is completely repacked and inspected. I don't have time to do it now otherwise I would do it for free because I am not comfortable with what I am seeing." I think I clearly expressed my opinions and limitations. In a court of law, the other party in the room would testify I expressed my opinions and limitations, and that I did not do a complete inspection, but did say not to jump the rig until an inspection was done because multiple other errors were found. Morally and legally, I believe I did everything I could or should. T Dog, you did the right thing and showed considerable courage and ethics in posting about something you missed. To hell with lawyers (and I am a lawyer). If you can improve safety just do it. If you see something wrong, call it out. You may not find every error but any error pointed out is a good thing. Just let the person know, as you did, that there may be other things wrong. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

SafecrackingPLF: Welcome back! I hear you loud and clear. You Sluggo and Guru raise some really interesting and thought provoking points on the found money, flight path, hydrology and topology etc. What then is your most likely explanation of how the money got to where it was found? Start with Cooper's exit and end with the kid finding the cash. Sluggo and Guru, you too. Since long distance river transport of that money sounds nearly impossible (given its condition), then I think we need to adjust the flight track so that the money lands at a place where natural means can transport it to the find site. I know my theory will be ridiculed, and that's OK. I am keeping an open mind. What can we do to get Ckret back? Is he still the agent in charge on the case? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

If you post s rig without a price you will be sitting answering emails ALL day with some ridiculous offers and some ok ones. Do everybody a favor post with an asking price. Good point about wasting time with inquiries. Why not post it at best offer over $2500?? (or whatever you think a good price is) received by a certain date. I watch rigs get bid up on eBay. They seem to bring good prices if they arent ancient relics. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

There are several versions around including the old Altimaster III made by SSE. I'd recommend getting the latest Alti 2 manufactured model as the lens is FAR FAR easier to replace. They are all (SSE's and ALTI-2'S versions) good altimeters and can take a beating. I still prefer the larger Altimaster II design as ity can be read easier by you and by others in your RW formation who might glance at it. I also like the adjustment to be done with a knob (like on the Altimaster II) rather than a bezel ring (Altimaster III design) as it is less likely to get accidently re-adjusted while you are moving around on a crowded plane. These altimeters have withstood the test of time and come out shining. I just wish someone would make an altimteter with a shatter proof mineral glass lens. Look at the new I-Phone screen, you cannot scratch that thing if you try. Why should older altimeters always look like hell with cloudy scratched lenses? I guess it brings some business to the manufacturers for replacement lenses, and plastic is safer than glass, but I'd LOVE an altimeter whose lens looked great after years of service.

just post it on classifieds here. markets are efficient, it will get bid up to its real value for sure. It is not an oddball or outdated rig and will attract a lot of interest. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I dont know if it's legal for a non rigger to tighten the cord that seats the pop top closer to the container, but my rigger showed me how to do it. It is really easy and keeps it snug as the repack settles in. I like my Reflex and think it is a well designed container. You will find MUCH controversy about the Catapult system, but I believe it enhances the chance of getting a reserve out in a horseshoe malfunction. Others see it as a safety hazard. There are sharp riggers on both sides of the controversy. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I have no trouble getting mine repacked. No rigger has ever turned it down. I know there is TONS!!! of controversy, but I see real merit in the Catapult system if you ever have a horseshoe malfunction. The inventor posts on this forum occasionally. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Good work Guru! You really dug deep on that one. Wouldn't the money get abraided very quickly once out of the bag and tumbling downstream? How far could it go and still arrive in the condition found? I was thinking about the discrepancies Sluggo has found in evidence regarding exit point. Isn't it more likely that the crew would correctly recall the place rather than the exact time? They'd feel the bump, look out the window and that visual memory of location (Portland suburbs) would likely remain. Think about your own memory of big events. For my generation it was the Kennedy asassination. Everyone remembers exactly WHERE they were when they first heard the news, but few remember the exact time. There is still uncertainty about time: delays in radio comms, time synch between plane and ground, possible confusion between time of reporting and time of occurence. One of the pilots was reported to be concerned that the FBI searched the wrong area based on his memory of where the plane was when they felt the pressure bump. Is that a FACT OR MYTH? Am I missing something? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Given the above qoute, I doubt that anyone would bother. Although you could never convict Duane on evidence that had been handled like that, I'd give Jo the benefit of the doubt if the cord remnants on the knife matched the cut lines the FBI has. Jo, any woven stuff or colored ID thread? I tried cutting some surplus shroud line with a pocket knife and it was hard to get anything stuck to the knife, but I don't know what kind of knife Duane had. 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

there was one WFFC takeoff where they apparently forgot to lock the tailwheel... drifted off the runway edge, looked like it clipped a few lights and thankfully got airborne. Anyone else remember that one? 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, See any woven fabric or colored strand in the cord material? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.