Following my recent post I just received a mail explaining me that I had a few hours to privatly answer... unfortunatly, it seems that hours are running faster in some areas of the planet...
In fact Matt was asking to remove something that did not obviously targeted him... gave me an « ultimatum » to remove my post within few hours, but obviously forgot to look at his watch and immediatly posted... such a fair play...
Dear Matt
In french we say « qui se justifie s'accuse »... I do not master english language to properly traduce that....I would translate that in english as « one who tries to explain his own attitude accuses himself ». High five Matt (...and maybe...huhhhh....one higher than the others )
To the community :
I did not expect such a reply but as Matt says, we both make wonderful products and, as a frenchman, I am more than open to share a while with a glass of wine
Good jumps, happy reading and « vive la liberté d'expression » I do cherish the first amendment of the US constitution the freedom of speech, please have fun follow these links www.penisfly.com ; the true one (not « in blue ») www.phoenix-fly.com and of course www.adrenalinbase.com !!!
To quote Jim Morrison « This is the End, My friend » I will not reply to you dear Squirrel
HUG
Jeannoel Itzstein
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Sujet: Forum discussion.
Date : Wed, 2 Apr 2014 09:50:41 -0700
De : Matt G
Pour :
Copie à : roch malnuit ,
Hi Jeannoel,
If you want to have this conversation publicly, then we can. I first wanted to give you the chance to reply in private, and remove your message on the forum to avoid continued stress for both of us. I would prefer to discuss it in private, it is more professional.
You are accusing “us” of many things in your post. I am not sure that airing a list of complaints on a forum is the best way to manage relationships between companies, even if at the end of your post you say that you want mutual respect.
The website thing - if I could remove that website then I would. I did not do it. Seriously, I’m very sorry that it offended you. I think I know who made it, but I do not know for sure. There is not much else to say about that.
Secondly, I am not sure that it would be a good idea to publicly debate the merits of our harness vs. the products that you make. You make excellent products, and people seem to think that we make good stuff as well. As for the load test, our harness has been tested not only by Alain, but also in the USA by other independent companies. We have brought every individual component to failure to determine its strength and tested the system as a whole and were unable to break it using any system available to us. Debating this in public will not benefit Adrenaline.
Your accusations of copying… Phoenix Fly has appropriated design concepts from other companies. Adrenaline has as well, in the past. To deny this is pointless. We of course used our favorite equipment as a reference for the development of our products. Nothing that you or PF makes was referred to.
As for Brevent, in my opinion you are greatly exaggerating the dangers and the consequences of what happened. Perhaps you include it here because it is just another complaint on the list of things you don’t like about me, but it seems unrelated.
I too wish for a more respectful and lower stress environment. To read slanted criticism of our products in the marketing words of Phoenix Fly, or to read the forum posts of PF employees which directly criticize aspects of our designs, is very tiresome. It also does not make PF look good.
I am very open to the idea of an environment where you, PF, and Squirrel… and everyone… agree to a more respectful relationship. I am 100% supportive of this idea. I think it would be better for the sport, the community, and for our businesses and personal stress levels. You recently received an email about the proposed IBA and I hope that we can meet one day soon and share a glass of something and discuss the many ways that we can help to grow our sport in a positive manner. I agree with you that it is beautiful.
I will give you a few hours to reply before I post on the forum. You may also reach me on skype, if you wish, at “matttgerdes”.
Best regards,
-Matt
