ReBirth
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Forever sounds a little too much like commitment to me. How about The byzantine Mutant Villainz http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/comics/herogen/
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DUDE!! Can you macrame me a beer?
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The Time to Act Is Now- A great read about Global warming
ReBirth replied to Darius11's topic in Speakers Corner
No shit...put me down for a gross of solar panels and an ethanol still. I don't want Vinny pulling a Jimbo...getting in my burble while we're sitting and slamming down on top of my head -
Whoopie...I think we finally both gave logical and decisive reaasons for our beliefs. We just had to beat it out of each other.
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Cool with me. I get a little opinionated when I'm drinking though, not like here.
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I empathize with them as well. But not to the point of sanctioning execution of prisoners. Should they have justice? Yes. Revenge at the hands of the state? No. I'll try to clarify further why I believe this way. The State...any State is basically a beuracracy empowered by the people. I don't think a beuracratic system can EVER not make mistakes. There should be no margin of error when dealing with the taking of human life. If, and that's a big if, there were a way to guarantee that no innocent person were ever executed ever, then I may agree with the death penalty for certain and specific crimes. I just don't think that hypothetical situation will ever be possible, and therefore, don't believe the risk to an innocent individual is worth it. I also empathize with them.
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I agree with that completely. Same problem here. Lifers are usually paroled. And that all goes back to one of my original statements in this thread. Part of the cause of violent crime here is that so many kNOWN violent criminals are wallking the streets. Even though we have the 2nd highest incarceration rate in the world. We need to stop locking up drug abusers in prison, treat them instead, that way we can keep the violent criminals behind bars. The current incarceration is unmanageable and as a result, we end up releasing sociopaths to make room for stoners.
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I believe a non-armed British officer did post his opinion earlier, and he was opposed to it. That's cool. If they don't want to carry guns that's their perogative. I wasn't commenting about the death penalty here either. My point was just that there's not a direct correlation between gun control laws and violence.
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You quoted my entire post (that doesn't have any analogies in it) to say that?
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When was the last time an innocent person was executed? Here's a list of murder rates per capita. US is 24th. Check out all the countries with strict gun control laws above them. http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph-T/cri_mur_cap&int=34
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I've got three for you: life in prison. Please don't tell others what I think. I never once said no one should ever be punished. I said, repeatedly, no one should be KILLED by the state. You jumped to the rest of your assumptions, but don't try to pawn that off on me. People who are willing to allow the state to kill for them are the wimps. Why don't you get a job as an executioner if you are so in favor of the death penalty. Stand there and take the life with your own two hands instead of getting someone else to do the dirty work for you. Yet you're willing to allow the mistaken killing to continue.
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Working at a warehouse sized, huge, drive through beer distributor (where we have to go to buy beer in this silly state). Sorted returnables between clear, brown and green glass. Why i liked it? I was 18 and could get beer
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Just make sure they're clean! I thought he said "casual".
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Sorry, not much more to say. It's been well established by the SCOTUS that the constitution applies to everyone, citizenship is not a factor.
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Bzzzzzt...try again.
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I'm done with this. Maybe some of you should go witness an execution. Or visit someone on death row. If you're willing to advocate the termination of other people's lives, don't you think you should make a little effort to understand it? By the way....a man got out of jail a couple months ago who had been locked up for 21 years for killing his girlfriend's baby. Except it turns out, he didn't do it. At least they don't have to dig him up and reincarnate him.
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Well, I've clarified...three times now. Need a fourth?
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Once again, I never said anyone should be freed. I said the gov't should never be permitted to kill. For Rhonda...no, I didn't previously make that statement, but not making a statement isn't the same as advocating it. But in Iraq it was. So...what's the difference?
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Killing is ultimate, final and cannot be reversed, corrected, or mitigated. When someone is killed their existence is destroyed. No other form of punishment can go to that extreme. It's impossible. Therefore, you can't apply my opinions or argument against killing to any other form of punishment, because they are not the same. How do you feel about a society that punishes a rapist by ruling that his sister be gang raped? If my argument doesn't hold any water, then any punishment that the gov't deems suitable must be equally valid.
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Really? What's the difference?
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John...you're not dumb so I just have to assume you are crazy. The gov't is always right, all gov'ts. But when there is dispute between two gov'ts, our's wins. Haven't you read the rules?
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The Time to Act Is Now- A great read about Global warming
ReBirth replied to Darius11's topic in Speakers Corner
Are you sniffing glue? You said my statement was unbelievable without the qualifier that they were "quoted and reported". If someone is not quoted and reported how am I supposed to know what they said? Please give me an example of someone who rebuts the claims of global warming, but make sure they've never been quoted or reported. Use your psychic powers I guess. -
The Time to Act Is Now- A great read about Global warming
ReBirth replied to Darius11's topic in Speakers Corner
True...I don't know what those who have said nothing have to say on the subject -
I never once advocated not punishing someone for crime. Every comment I've made has been in relation to the act of killing someone and the justification others are using for the supposed "right" the state has to kill somone.