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Once I witnessed such a scene: on the plane minutes before reaching the drop point an AFF instructor said to his female student (who was visibly scared shitless since it was her firs jump without the instructor holding her). He said: “I’m tired. If you lose stability and start to spin I’m not going to try to stop you. Count only on your own self.” If you could see that girl’s eyes. She looked as if it was death that waited for her outside the plain. She managed to land safely but after completing the training she never spoke to that instructor again. Do you think it’s OK if the instructor scares his students?

op5e! I’m not sure what you meant. I think that you might mean that games are not fair. Every game can be fair. It depends on the players. Of course in discussion they can cheat and take part in it just for the sake of proving it is them who’s right. But I don’t think it’s the case with Ying. In my opinion it’s a very good thing that is happening here. Thanks to people's answers this thread contains just an enormous portion of positive energy. In (almost) every post people did their best to prove that skydiving is an affirmation of life. Believe me it’s great to read it. Happythoughts! You have to use your intellect to discuss. This makes every discussion - including this one - an intellectual game. Besides I meant that not every Polishperson is like Iwan and his cussing buddies who ban and threat everyone who makes them feel helpless.

Hi everybody! I talked to Ying personally and I can tell you she’s a very modest and nice person. Her only fault is that she’s a talented polemicist and she loves to analyse philozophical themes in public. Iwan didn’t tell you the whole truth. Forgive me but my patriotism doesn’t allow me to tell you how exactly Ying has been treated on our forum. Those of you who know Polish can see it for themselves: www.freefly.pl Let me just tell you that adroit arguments are not allowed on our forum. What is allowed is cussing, offending and threatening. I find it outrageous. And I’m ashamed ‘cos those guys are Polish like myself. Let me assure you – not all Polishmen are like that. It’s just some of those who write on our forum. Including Iwan. He and his loyal buddies had Ying banned ‘cos he’s got a huge crush on her and she doesn’t want him. Besides he’s overambitious and he’s never managed to start a thread that would have over 5000 vievs and over 250 replies. And Ying achieved this in a relatively short time even though our forum has only about 200 users. So don’t be judging Ying too fast. And don’t treat this discussion too seriously. It’s just an intellectual game afterall. Relax. Have fun. The world can be so beautiful. Bluskies!