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Thanks Kevin, but I mangaed to get it. It's a great machine BTW _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Thats is a sales flyer but 7/10 for effort, I've got it now anyway so if anybody else needs it PM me

Anybody got them? please. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

I'll take 6 dozen at that price. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Thanks Terry, I look forward to using the new forum. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

A while back on the old PIA riggers forum a German(I think) Rigger posted construction details for a porosity test machine. Did anybody get a copy of the construction details from the website? If so could I have a copy of them. Please. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Wow, you been in the sport for 24 years and you just got round to venting! Man are you tolerant.

I feel I can comment on this particular incident as I was the rigger that brought the problem to light. In fact there was nothing wrong with the system itself The problem came from people making loops longer than the original factory spec, because it was easier to pack the main. With the right loop length we couldn't get the pack to lock. That said I agree there are better systems that pull the ripcord directly out of a normal type closing loop _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

That is quite a claim. Any other manufactures out there care to comment? _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

I couldn't help notice that "most" of the replys to this thread are from people with small number of repacks, maybe like me once you been working in rigging a while you just stop counting. However One thing that does strick me even more is that very few people seem to get alcohol when they have a save. I say it's time to start a campaign to revitalise this inportant skydiving tradition. If jumpers don't keep their riggers hungover we might start jumping instead of doing all those repairs and repacks! then where would they be? Join the campaign to keep riggers drunk. we need a catchy acronym. Any suggestions. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Quote I quess using common sence is the general concensus in this thread and I would like to know where I can order some of that. haha! reply] www.common_sence.com ? _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Whats a manual? _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

I agree that rigminder is a very verstaile program but only if you can connect to the net. I accept that is a minor problem but I would prefer a stand alone app. Also I would want to be able to enter my own searches for SB's and AD's against my own safety file. I guess what I would like is a program that allows me to record all the info required by my rules (BPA in my case) and allows me to search all those entires in a organised manner. For example if I put in a serial number for a main I would like to be able not only to bring up the owner but how many patches I've put on it. where they are, how much i charged how long they took ect. but I would like to be able to get that info with the customers name or the type of canopie too. If the same software could generate invoices and provide a hard copy log book too I think that would be somewhere close. Maybe I'll just enrole on a computer course.

I was thinking somthing like a access would be the way to go but I would have no idea where too start. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Thats not what I was talking about, as good as it may be rigminder seems to be designed to alert an individual when their reserve is due a repack. I see it can be used for lots of other things too but i was meaning somthing for individual lofts I was thinking about somthing more akin to an electronic rigging loft log with database qualities which would enable the rigger to for instence bring up all the work that has been done on an given rig or for a given customer. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

A post on here about log books made me wonder if any clever computer literate rigger has ever bothered to write a software log book. Maybe something that could total hours worked and also keep track of repack dates for customers ect. Anybody? _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Another pro is that with the 180 day cycle, the jumper pays twice a year instead of 3 times a year. Oh, wait a minute that is a con since the rigger will only get paid twice a year instead of 3 times a year! Come on isn't there a rigger in a country with a 180 day cycle who can tell us what he is seeing and what problems the longer cycle has created? I don't think injury/fatality rates are necessarily higher in those countries to indicate real problems, but can't someone tell us the facts instead of all this rigger speculation on how bad it is? We use 6 month cycles in the UK, As I said earlier I cant think of one time I have found a problem that would not have been one had the clyle been less. I have Rigger friends in Germany who use 1 year repacks they find that the repack time doesn't cause problems. As for the con that riggers will only get paid twice a year, thats true so you have to increase your price _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Will 15 years do? IMO a round with a mesh skirt and a full stowage diaper, (not type one deployment). That said I wouldn't choose to jump a round again

In the UK we have had a 6 month repack for as years, I'm a full time rigger working at a busy military sports parachute centre. I can honestly say that I don't see any problems that make me think a 120 day repack would be any better. I can't think of one problem that made me say, "if that had been inspected 60 days ago it wouldn't have happened" _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Jersey is great!

I've had one mal a PC in tow, I cutaway then deployed my reserve, I found my free bag in the centre of the cutaway main canopy which had deployed after the reserve tray opened. I think that cutting away keept me alive. I don't think the time saved by going straight for the reserve handle is anything to write home about if it is you waited WAY to long to react to your PC in tow mal. I agree with the line of thought if you have mad ANY attempt to deploy the main then cutaway before deploying your reserve. It saved my life

Excellent answer! But unfortunatly wrong, it would seem http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1834550;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

I'm interested in hearing the opinion of other riggers on the design of the Racer Elite Free Bag, I recently saw one with the rubber band stows and no pouch for the lines. This particular free bag had the edges of the mouth cut very high so that only a small amount of the reserve was covered by the bag. The mouth lock flap did not extend all the way across the bottom of the packed reserve. When the bridle was given a sharp tug the reserve fell out of the free bag sideways leaving the locking stows and the lines in place. The reserve was the correct size for the bag and packed according to the manual. Anybody else had any experience? Good? Bad? _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba

Incorrect. We stow reserve canopy suspension lines in a pouch as opposed to rubber band line stows because it is more mechanically efficient during deployment. The bagged canopy is much less prone to twist or flip from side to side because the lines are extracted from the middle as opposed to from one side to the other as with rubber band deployed d-bags. Lines that are stowed in a free bag pouch do not by design, speed up deployment. While I agree that is true, it is a bonus of the design rather than the design critria. The original manufacturer of the free bag system. (para flight?) went for a pouch because the wanted to eliminate stows. They wanted to eliminate stows because hesitation of lines on a reserve is a bad bad thing. I'm not saying the free bag is supposed to dump the lines, clearly that would be a stupid idea, I am saying that they can, and that given a choice between a system that could possibly dump your lines and one that could hessitate the deployment of your lines, then dumping them is the lesser of the two evils. I accept that you have the right to belive hessitation would be a more palatable choice than line dump. I would rather dump my reserve lines than tow my free bagged canopy into the ground I am aware that the free bag doesn't speed up the deployment, It does however eliminate a possibility of the deployment being slowed down. As for rubberband dbags bing a compromise, is John Sherman aware of that or the french, or the manufactures of the Icon? I doubt if there is a single correct answer to the question as to if it is better or not to use a particular system on a free bag, but the point I was making was that free bag systems are a side issue in a disscusion about double stowing rubber bands. _________________________________________ Nullius in Verba