blueVTsky

Ok, again I think we are dealing a bit with semantics. when I say "faith"in this discussion I don't mean religeous faith as in lets say... right wing conservative christian faith , um...for example,I mean that at some point even a scientist must rely on hopeful speculation leading to a theory, leading to the proof stage whether mathematical or by lab testing. Allow me to use skydiving as an example....I apply scientific principals in my everyday life including packing my parachute;each line, each fold, each seam has its place as dictated by historically successful testing and deployments- science. However when I reach for that hacky and pull....while I am waiting for line stretch I am not thinking about every kaotic atom in the air interacting properly with the fibers of my container/canopy just because I packed the thing scientifically, I have to go somewhere else in my mind...Faith -that the bugger is going to unravel the right way. *** In the case of Science V. Religion, the court finds that religion shall stay 200 ft away from science at all times.

I completely agree with what you are saying about the governments role in dictating curriculum....In the sixth grade, I was in a Catholic school- the science teacher was not a nun and they forced her to put a religion question on a Biology test.....I was furious and answered the question "religion is a waste of time" man, that blew their minds!!! I was lectured to for a week, which just served to piss me off more!..so I can relate. But when you are determining that science is the definitive way of explaining reality remember that you are talking to an existentialist, reality is subjective and a slippery slope at best....Science deals with theory in many cases which is a form of faith based thought ....pending proof by scientific means. Have you checked out String Theory? That my friend is some freaky shit,talk about faith based science. The point which we agree on is ANY tyranny which controls peoples thought is dangerous. As was said in The Matrix."free your mind".

People, People; We should remember that most of these discussions are subject to the vagaries of semantics. Also keep in mind that there are as many realities as there are minds to perceive it. We all have a belief system to explain the information which we get through our senses, whether it be science or religion based. Each belief system has its merits. Many wars are fought over ideology both political and military.Peoples belief systems are the one thing most will die to protect- for it is the very thing which makes for a conscious being. I for one consider myself a scientist at the same time an existentialist, but I'm not gonna tell any of you to think the same way. Thats your business not mine and certainly not the governments'.

Fluegenhagendaazganectegazoink? HA! and you people had me thinking that getting a lil sqirt of pee in the face during oral was bad!

Wow, wish I could do that, get caught shooting birds with a rifle out here and they'll hang my hide.

woah, now thats nasty, I'll just keep that lesson in mind if it happens again. I definitely got the big frown from proponents of anti biotics: trying to fill my own prescription plus running the risk of resistance but $300 is quite a few jumps. hey...were both still here.***OK show me again.... it's Pull and flare, right?

Dear dude, I know what you mean,two weeks ago I accidentally shot a 3" nail through my finger whilst framing. It missed the bone but Man it looked like a gross snack with a tooth pick stuck through it. But work must continue so I pulled it out , youch! and kept on going. I got to the med cabinet soon after and shot some alcohol into it with a syringe,(agony) put some neosporin on the exit and entry, and took some left over anti biotics.....risk factor, major. but I saved $300. Now, jumping out of a plane.... well thats just nuts!***is this too much information?

Yeah dude, I just got some sleep after sitting out there since 3 AM. the woods were wet and quiet....I mean QUIET not a Kee Kee to be heard.....but I did call in and watch a coyote while on foot and that was cool cause I rarely see them ...very stealthy. Nice job by the way! MMMMM good.

yep,as I said, my apologies.Hoooo Boy!.Sure enough posts made under the influence definitely look different in the harsh light of day.***ITS ALL PIPES!!!!....George Costanza

my apologies, I'm gonna let it ride until this wine buzz wears off***aint nuthin cain be solved with a lil gasoline and a lighter

OK, My GF is asleep, and I don't want to ask her but I have had two women pee in my face and another farted, Did they loose control of themselves or were they just dissing me? uhmm, is this too much information ?.***when getting road head beware of truckers in the next lane.

I just checked out the website for honda new technologies, yep you are right about the stand alone house definition; a single residential unit....meaning the thing is sized for the average family of four(U.S). It probably exhausts the same gasses as a gas hot water heater i.e. H2O and CO with other trace crap. Promising stuff for sure...I am holding out for fuel cell technology though, fewer moving parts etc.***Aint nuthin caint be solved with a lil gasoline and a lighter.

excellent I'm glad this was resolved, now back to discussions of titties and beer! *** ITS ALL PIPES! George Costanza

I get the physics part but I think the forces we are dealing with here are in fact mostly areodynamic and it all depends on its bank angle, after all a frisbee is just a round airfoil in flight isn't it?

Ok, if you're allowed an open fire ya gotta walk into the nearest outdoor supply store and demand they show you the latest "left handed smoke shifters"