jumperconway

For records; \You have to build in the air what you build on the ground. It has to be the same formation exactly or it isn't a record! Still no rcord! Come on Trent!

For records; \You have to build in the air what you build on the ground. It has to be the same formation exactly or it isn't a record! There's a 113 in but 1 out! no record!

It's not a record unless everyone is in and the correct formation built.

Yep...that's just haze Yep-Industrial type

------------ Clouds? I don't see no stink'n clouds!

This edit is to separate my words from theirs These are cut and paste responses from a reply that I received private but would like to explain an attitude problem as I see it Again, yes, I realize that. I usually do it correct -which involves paying attention something I obviously didn't do in this instance. I know how to put my chest strap on right - I probably just wasn't paying attention to HOW I was doing it . ---------------------------------------------------------this attitude can land u dead!. complacency kills do not let yourself get distracted when it comes to safety - --------------------- I have a rubber band (actually a SkyBand) on the buckle to prevent it from from loosen and it is especially hard to move the SkyBand with gloves on. I was probably concentrating on just getting the damn strap through with the skyband providing a tight fit instead of actually threading the strap through the buckle right. ------------------------------------------------------- Back to the basics, do not let yourself get distracted when it comes to safety, complacency kills. ----------------------------------------------------- I read this reply over and over and keep coming up with the same answers! These statements bothered me in that no personal responsibility was ever taken. Excuses kill! Responsibilty saves your own life. This not directed at anything but what I perceive as a bad personal responsibility attitude! Usually isn't an excuse! I ALWAYS insure that I have the T's croosed and the I's dotted as should all. On one of my first pack jobs at USA I happened to ask Kat for a gear check on the ground waiting for the next load only because I had seen experienced jumpers doing this. I had a Racer which I really didn't understand packing from my lessons, as a newbie, I had packed a guaranteed pilot chute in tow(misrouted bridle)! It would have been my first reserve ride guaranteed! I have been extremely humbled by this as it was like my 13th jump! Safety first! This is NOT a game but a very seriously dangerous sport! It deserves utter respect! Peace, \Conway (rant over)

The lines coming directly of the connector links of the risers should go straight to the bottom of the container away from the corners of the reserve container. There is a slight chance that the lines can snag and damage the reserve container itself. As a new jumper I packed placing the lines directly around the bottom of the reserve before learning differently without a problem thoough. I think some containers are more succeptible than others. The Aerodyne container advertises specific protectors for this as I believe has been standard fare on one of the french rigs for a while. As was said before, check with the manufacturer of your specific rig!

These are cut and paste responses from a reply that I received private but would like to explain an attitude problem as I see it Again, yes, I realize that. I usually do it correct -complacency kills which involves paying attention do not let yourself get distracted when it comes to safety - something I obviously didn't do in this instance. I know how to put my chest strap on right - I probably just wasn't paying attention to HOW I was doing it once again refer to 1 and 2, this attitude can land u dead!. I have a rubber band (actually a SkyBand) on the buckle to prevent it from from loosen and it is especially hard to move the SkyBand with gloves on. I was probably concentrating on just getting the damn strap through with the skyband providing a tight fit instead of actually threading the strap through the buckle right.Back to the basics, do not let yourself get distracted when it comes to safety, complacency kills. I read this reply over and over and keep coming up with the same answers! These statements bothered me in that no personal responsibility was ever taken. Excuses kill! Responsibilty saves your own life. This not directed at anything but what I perceive as a bad personal responsibility attitude! Usually isn't an excuse! I ALWAYS insure that I have the T's croosed and the I's dotted as should all. On one of my first pack jobs at USA I happened to ask Kat for a gear check on the ground waiting for the next load only because I had sean experienced jumpers doing this. I had a Racer which I really didnt understand packing from my lessons, I had packed a guaranteed pilot chute in tow! It would have been my first reserve ride guaranteed! I have been extremely humbled by this as it was like my 13th jump! Safety first! This is NOT a game but a very seriously dangerous sport! It deserves utter respect! Peace, \Conway (rant over)

I assume you are talking about a 2 out downplane? As in the incidents, probly less than 100'. Unstow brakes and prepre to flare!

What I meant was the strap must pass around then thru the buckle to be secured. To misroute it, it is only passed around once then put under the elastic band. Never do it halfway was the point. Around the buckle and then thru to be complete and then look at it and pull on it to be sure!

Hi Lauren, I do over 400 jumps a year for the last several after taking almost 2 years off after only 1 tandem and 4 AFF jumps. Some of that fear is with me on every jump, it helps us survive. 3-4 weeks without jumping makes it alot worse! Come back to us and we'll help u get back over it. Blues, Conway

At Eloy a week or so ago, I kept wondering why my chest strap (the elastic keeper part - not the buckle) kept sliding back toward the buckle...then realized it was misrouted. I fixed by about 8K while still on the climb. Yikes! I had noticed the sliding keeper even before boarding, but just didn't figure out the buckle/misrouting at the time as the reason why it was sliding back. ------------------------------------------------------ A smart thing to get in the habit of is to never put your chest strap partially through the keeper. If you start, finish! Don't let yourself get distracted. I get a pin check every load and check my chest strap and all my handles several times before exit. I am particularly anal about the chest strap and hackey! Blues, Conway

Trevor, You have at least 2 riggers at SDH,Britny being one.

Now you know 2, I skipped C.

Let's not B.S. each other, huh? The Incidents Forum ain't about education; it's about being first to post. I was the first to post about the 2 out incident at Spaceland. I witnessed it first hand. I didn't post the name, irrelative. I posted it so that newwer jumpers could learn from someonelses brain lock. I happen to think it lead to a worthwhile discussion. I sent an email to AFFI as he was circling the victom yelling at him to cutaway for info. I checked with the manifest the next day to get relative info on physical damage.

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LMAO, Dont know who that is but still ROFLMAO!!!!

If we're bringin planes, augh hell yesssss!!!!!

Smoked girraffe anyone? HHYo baby!!!!!!coma,coma,coma,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Even knowing that she is probably losing her job this week, she took the time to call and try and rest my heart dealing with my mothers birthday passing! God bless the lady that I have yet to even meet in person. There are few of you out there! Love ya Kat!

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God bless the survivors! Sorry for your trama.