ya guys, i really dont have much to contribute here, i'm a "young" skydiver and now finally base jumper, making my measley first two jumps last week at BDay. but i do think that i have enough of a burning interest in the sport to throw in a few comments...i can definitely see where the experienced guys get pissed at new guys asking dumb questions like whos carl boenish, but is knowing who carl boenish going to make that person make the next jump safer...i still see the point, you should understand base history and its pioneers, absolutely, but its not the end of the world if somebody doesnt know that stuff. and with all, absolutely ALL respect to Brian, he wasnt a new jumper, he was an uncurrent jumper, i mean he's famous for practically starting this whole thing called base, he knew what the risks were. i'd expect people to say the same stuff about me should i have gone in at bridge day. "well that kid was a dumbass, he didnt have experience, he shouldnt have been there," well, i knew that i could have jacked up the whole jump and died, but luckily i didnt. so im' still here, thanks to God. i dont know, everyone likes to bitch about people dying, but nobody makes you jump, you can turn around at any point up until your foot leaves that exit point, its not a staff organizers fault, mentors fault, its your own, thats the whole point of this sport, isnt it?