tkhayes

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  1. Pointing out your hypocrisy is not really agreeing still waiting for a definition of woke after hundreds of pages of woke threads if only you knew what you were all upset about….
  2. Woke is dead but the right wing trolls here cannot stop talking about and then starting new threads because the old ones got stale
  3. You never said anything about the most common weapons, you said you don’t know anyone who wants to carry a stinger, but all you want is to be able to carry whatever weapon you want… So if someone like you wants to carry a stinger… Is that OK or not? Stop acting like a fucking gun nut. or is it just all about you?
  4. we can still hear you are you sound like a gun nut
  5. You don’t know any people that are calling for Stingers but you just want to be able to carry whatever you want? we can fucking hear you here right?
  6. I have an open mind, and luckily I am right all of the time as well
  7. The actual issue becomes…. To which country do you deport US born citizens? Why would those countries accept people who are citizens of another country? the fall of birth right citizenship is not going to happen because it is unenforceable at any level just another trump lie and failed campaign promise that he can blame on the deep state
  8. https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/south-carolina no mention of gangs. Everything else looks like everywhere else. You like to blame but are pretty short on any ideas for improvement other than ‘responsibilities’ which are only legislated through effective gun laws how do you reduce the death and shooting rates of children in SC? I mean other than moving the goalposts again and talking about gangs? And you make it sound like gang shootings and a suicides do not matter btw I will hold you to providing some data for your claims of gang shootings leading the issue
  9. Nazism is extreme right wing. Communism is extreme left wing political spectrum 101 back to school with you
  10. yeah but those lies and demonizing the opposition is how they eventually get to concentration camps and retraining centers. Seems to be working as far as the stupidity of the group
  11. speaking of lame trolling, re-read your last ten posts. wildly outrageous ideological bullshit claims and backing it up with more wildly outrageous ideological bullshit claim
  12. so once again, POST YOUR SOURCES, YOUR REFERENCES, YOUR DATA.... or shut the fuck up
  13. How about we just ignore the creationists and let BillVon have his goodbye. Every time I want to tell RonD to fuck of i can just do it with a personal message rather than here
  14. No but it is your burden to provide something beyond ridiculous insane rhetoric
  15. You have alternate facts to share with us? Go ahead. I had been asking for decades for ANYshred of statistics from the gun psychos to demonstrate how it helps society in any way
  16. More bullshit. Fuck off with your rhetorical crap. I mean seriously. You want to debate in good faith and your last out ‘’the huge mental health problems of the left’?? fuck off already
  17. Flaming leftists. Well, once again we get to call out bullshit unless you provide something to back up your bullshit
  18. A background check is a form of “a license” And I never suggested licensing anyway. The reason you have a firearms database is because a lot of people like to talk about getting control of “illegal guns“ there is no such thing as an illegal gun. Remington, Glock, Smith & Wesson don’t have an assembly line somewhere making illegal guns to fund to criminals.You track the guns so that you know where they are, and when they fall into the hands of criminals, you actually have a paper trail. We eliminate an enormous part of the problem.and if you perform the rest of my idea, all gun sales go through an escrow like law-enforcement, and that would eliminate overtime, millions and millions of guns from falling into the hands of criminals
  19. Demographics cultures are different BECAUSE of effective gun laws.
  20. I come from Canada. 5 rounds. Capacity is an issue in mass shootings. Yes, It is worth study. No I do not have data specific to any claim related to magazine size the gun lobby does not have data either to back up any of their rhetorical claims the rest of what I wrote?
  21. I wrote this in 2018 when I ran for state representative Gun Legislation Proposals Gun violence in the USA supersedes levels seen in any other civilized country in the world. That is a fact. There are no excuses about not being able to do better. Of course we can. We simply refuse to. America likes their guns, but are now rising up against seeing their children and young people being murdered en masse using the types of weapons that are readily available to the general public. There are no ‘single fixes’ or statements like “The problem is….” as there are a plethora of problems and issues and therefore a plethora of things that need to be addressed to improve the situation. Here is what we are NOT going to do: · We are NOT going to stop gun violence, we are working to reduce it · We are NOT going to take all your guns away, but some of them (and their accessories) must go and at the very least, many people should not have access to them But here is the broad spectrum of issues that need to be addressed: · Licensing of the PERSON, not necessarily the gun · Tracking the sales and movement of guns from manufacture to meltdown · Private sales must also be tracked, all of them · Training, use and care minimums · Storage and transport minimums · Background checks for buyers AND sellers · Waiting periods · Funding the study of gun violence and its causes · Limiting the killing capacity of the weapons we have · Removal of unwanted guns from society, i.e. buyback and disposal programs Managing the data The country already has dozens of databases of people that are used for screening. NICS, TSA, DHS, travel bans, Law Enforcement at city, County and State levels, the FBI, the ATF and so on. The obvious choice for a database of people that are either cleared to own a gun or people that should NOT have a gun is the ATF. They already have background check processes in place for explosives, fireworks, and they already handle the applications and background checks for those that want to own a fully automatic machine gun. (Yes, you can still buy a machine gun). Note that the ATF background checks are not so much about the types of explosives or fireworks that people have, they are about WHO has them, WHERE and HOW they are stored and transported. And that model appears to work. Information is collected and submitted to the ATF database on criminal history of people. Similar to a security clearance, the standards need to be developed using metrics developed by the study of gun violence – which surprisingly we do very little of today. Mental health issues (i.e. 5150 Psych eval) need to be included in the database, however this poses challenges and definitions are currently vague. What data already exists and what data can be used? Does mentally ill invalidate the ownership of gun all the time? i.e. People suffering from depression are mostly stable, law-abiding members of society with no external issues. Much of the personal medical data available is nto made public through privacy laws – as it should be. The Purchase of Firearms and Accessories If we are wondering how guns go from being ‘legal’ to ‘illegal’, then we need to track the sales and movements of them – from the start to the end of their lives. There is no assembly line by Remington or Glock that manufactures guns for the illegal trade. ALL GUNS are legal at the point of manufacture. They simply fall into the wrong hands with little reporting or recording of how that happens. That needs to change. When a consumer wants to buy a gun (private or dealer) of any kind, that transaction needs to be tracked and recorded for future tracking should that weapon end up being used in a crime. Who sold it, who bought it, when and where. Serial numbers, makes and models, and modifications managed through the same database. Law enforcement agencies, from Municipal Police, the County Sheriffs and State agencies already have access to federal databases for crime history and research. This could easily be expanded to include the firearms access database mentioned in the first section. · The buyer and seller agree to a sale of gun, whether that is a dealer or private. The same is recorded on a standard bill of sale form for such purchases, similar to the 4473 form used today. · The seller brings the weapon to the LEO in the area, or ships it to the LEO where the buyer is located, with the forms and details of the sale. · The background checks are performed by the LEO on the gun, the seller, AND the buyer and approves the transaction if there is no reason to NOT approve the sale. · The buyer receives the gun/accessories from the LEO and the transaction is complete. · Criminal penalties apply to those that circumvent the system or bypass it. · All current weapons in circulation are required to be entered into the database with the owner data, a compliance period and then an enforcement period. · Licensed gun dealers, as they exist today, could be given access to the same online database, and could be the ‘escrow’ for a gun sale, private or dealer, as long as the LEO/ATF/agency is performing the background checks and the ‘all clear’ is given. · Gun show sales can still occur, they pickup-and-drive-away model will go away and people will have to comply with the LEO intervention requirement to complete the sale. · The cost of this is funded through a tax on gun sales or a flat fee per transaction, just like we fund drivers licenses through a fee structure. This solves almost all the issues in one fell swoop. We have addressed the background checks, we have addressed the gun show loopholes, we have addressed the waiting periods, and we have addressed the cost of the system. The convicted felon is NOT likely going to go into an LEO to retrieve a gun that they are trying to purchase, and over time, many of the illegal guns out there will be eradicated from the system, suppressing the flow of legal-to-illegal guns and making it harder and harder for criminals to get their hands on guns. I am not under any illusions that this will take time, but law-abiding citizens will NOT be impacted by this any more than they are to get a drivers license. Capacity of weapons This probably needs to be addressed. The gun lobby does have a point that there is not much different between the scary looking military style AR-15 right out of the box and the Ruger Mini-14 which is a semi-automatic ranch and hunting rifle. One looks like a hunting rifle, and one looks like a military weapon. With a 30-round magazine, they are effectively the same weapon. Limit the magazine sizes, and you limit the killing and carnage capacity of the weapon. We restrict vehicles with throttle controls so they cannot reach excessive speeds, and we limit many things in society. Fertilizer is still available but when you buy a bag, but when you buy 500lbs of it, someone is supposed to notice that you might be making a bomb. At the very least, if you are going to allow large capacity magazines, then you must include them in the database of who is buying them and who possesses them. I suggest that 5 round magazines be set as the limit, and an outright ban on any magazine more than 5 for any center fire rifle. No magazine sizes larger than the manufacturer’s specification for handguns. No third party modifications that increase the capacity of the weapon beyond what is dictated for a particular make or model. (Yes we can actually get to make and model specifications where needed) Bump Stocks Banned, and repossessed. They effectively turn a semi-auto into a machine gun, without calling it a machine gun. The ATF already regulates machine guns and should also regulate these under the same regulations. Any modifications that turn a semi-auto into an auto repeater, need to be banned or regulated under the current ATF permit process. Waiting Periods Generally covered by the LEO involvement through the background check process, however more stringent waiting periods could be attached to the types of weapons. i.e. bolt-action hunting rifle could have a shorter waiting period than a handgun. Handguns have a longer waiting period that could and should involve the training cycle below Training Mandatory training for handgun purchases and assault rifles, demonstrating use, cleaning, handling, storage and transportation as well as marksmanship. Ongoing re-certification every few years to maintain. Few people have a problem with trained individuals being allowed to carry in our society. Current classes in Florida for Concealed weapons are 3-4 hours long. That is NOT enough time for someone to be considered competent to carry a deadly weapon or to be able to react in any given situation. I propose training that includes actual self-defense scenarios, decision making processes and actual shooting range training similar to Police practical training before anyone should be expected to be the judge, jury and executioner in any given situation. Sorry but I do not trust the average citizen to pull out a gun and affect a situation where lives are on the line. But I do if they are properly trained for those situations. Buy-Back Programs Given the cost to society of the gun violence that we see, the government should fund the buying and destroying of unwanted weapons in our society. There are probably tens of millions of guns that are sitting in drawers and closets that have outlived their usefulness or purpose, that owners have mostly forgotten that they own. These are some of the guns that fall into the wrong hands by giving them to friends and family, or through break-and-enter theft. Reasonable cash value purchases and offers by LEOs, funded by the tax dollars that already go to cover the massive costs of gun violence, are used to buy back the guns, which MUST be destroyed, not re-sold back into society. The number of guns in the country is part of the problem, reducing the numbers down to the owners that really want to own a gun is important. This will help to reduce the numbers of ‘spontaneous’ violent acts resulting from drug and alcohol induced events, domestic violence, anger-related disputes and accidental shootings within family units. Arming Teachers and increased security at Schools No, we should not arm teachers. Children are in a learning environment. Teachers should not be engaging in gun battles, nor should they be expected to take a bullet for your child or mine. The root cause of the problem with recent mass shootings is not the lack of security, it is the ease of which massive killing power is available to people without ANY checks whatsoever to their ability or stability in owning these weapons. And the gun lobby has fought for and encouraged such access over a few decades now – we are reaping the results of those efforts. Increased security, sure, but who pays for that? I suggest that the gun owners and proponents pay for the increased security costs through taxes on gun or ammunition purchases. Much like pilots pay for the infrastructures that support aviation through fuel taxes.
  22. You are focusing only on murders. That’s like focusing only on mass shootings. Hundreds of thousands of people lives are affected or destroyed by the effects of gun violence in the USA gun violence, regardless of how you measure it is exponentially more prevalent in the USA. Murder, shootings, health care costs, LEO costs, the justice system, prisons, lost wages, destroyed families… every aspect of society that is affected by guns is worse in the USA than in other civilized countries Cherry picking data and moving goalposts is not going to cut it
  23. And why did trump just now, object to the federal funding because it did not have a debt ceiling increase built into it? Why would you need to increase the debt ceiling when you promised to cut the deficit....? Oh wait, it might be because Trump is a con man and people believe the bullshit spouting from his fuckng piehole.
  24. 85% of the country wants background checks but here we are in a constitutional republic with supposed representative government. if you want to know what other laws might make sense then look at all the countries that have exponentially less gun violence and start emulating. its not difficult and I am surprised that you could ask such a question. To be honest, it seems pretty obtuse and trolling. we want ANYTHING to reduce the amount of gun violence that is seen here daily. btw I own 20 guns. The USA has the STUPIDEST gun laws in the world filled with loopholes and go arounds, thus any claim that says ‘we already have laws’ is equally obtuse and trolling. Your gun laws are completely ineffective. Try something else. (See paragraph 2).
  25. No you won’t and no you aren’t. You are doing NOTHING for those kids and you simply don’t give a flying fuck but sure, you and your fellow gun-right-above-all-else crazies can easily convince yourself that you are fighting for something while hundreds of thousands of people and billions of dollars are grossly affected by gun violence keep fighting you hypocrites