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You said you new him personally right? You think he's the type that wouldn't mind us taking him out to dinner, see if he remembers her mom, talk old jump stories or not a great idea? Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

I would say poke around and see what ya find, but i think it's been harped on enough and need not be brought back up. Enough has been said in the past. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

No problem honey, our search for your mom's DZ turned into quite the little crazy story history lesson. I'll be interested to see what happens with it in the future on our little trip to Sheridan some day. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Holy crap Jerry, I started poking around about Sheridan and Tedd....damn. I guess I finally understand the phrase "opening a can of worms..." PM me. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

I just spoke with the owner of one of the planes in the picture and the dropzone shown in in Sheridon Oregon. His plane wan't the jump ship but he did fly jumpers at one time. He atleast help me narrow down the location and i'm sending him the pics through email so he can have a look. The DZ is closed now and there isn't even an airport there now. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate all the help! Anyone ever jump Sheraton back in the day!? Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Thanks for all the info guys, this is a great start, someone on BJ.com mentioned this may also be in oregon. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

and if this thread could be moved to the history forum it might be better served there. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

In the spring I will be traveling to Washington to hopefully track down the place where my fiancé's mother once jumped at to perform an ash dive in her memory. If you recognize this place or can help with any additional info please message or post. TY. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Oh and another of my 2 cents, if you can't do the spotting thing I mentioned above, you instructors failed you terribly. No complicated pull of gravity with the moon, the amount of drag on you goggles, crap added in, but a simple way to calculate a functional spot, you instructors failed you. On the other hand, I think your program needs a little tweaking, and we have discussed it a load, and I have failed to assist the way I should have with it, but what you are doing is amazing and appreciated by many, keep up the good work buddy and i will see you soon! Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

So, my buddy has been sucked into the wonderful amazement of the waste of time on this sight. First, Digi, your doing a lot more for the sport than the people giving you a hard time on this sight so don't let it discourage you. Second, I would be more than happy to stop by and help with the program over some coffee. 3rd, Stick to your friends for help and assistance because forums are full of people like Mr. 99 years experience that have nothing better to do than screw with you. The few people that will give positive assistance will not out way the computer drama is my life crowd. 4th and most important, no offense to any, if you can't come up with a functional jump run and spot within 30 seconds of a weather report in your head that will put you in position to make it back to the airport easily without concern, go play golf and argue about the type of grass on the green. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

I see your point, but even during emergency exit practice, the majority of the emphasis by instructors is on who you take command from, which equipment to use at what altitude, poised/diving depending on the senario, arch one thousand two thousand pull, get off line of flight, ect. And this falls into the hop and pops in the coach program as well. Practice for aircraft emergecies is a big plus for those jumps which are skipped at a lot of DZ's (not Raeford, don't assume I meant that). We need to keep this in mind when breifing students and new jumpers and go into more detail about aircraft emergency and the skills it developes for ascending exits. I think a little muscle memory about being aware of the tail of the aircraft would be pretty easy to create if all of us paid a little closure attention to it. Then when we are doing an average hop and pop on an average day with average lack of communication, instead of handles in order used, spot, ready, set, tail strike, it might go handles in order used, spot, check the positioning of the aircraft and airspeed, ooh the tails low, sit down and roll out or exit low kneeling, or whatever, but hopefully not a tail strike. Myabe this would block out something more important, maybe to much info for one briefing, I know how we are taught to teach, but something may also be missing. What do yall feel about this as instructors? Maybe I'm off here. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

The first time I can remember someone really going into the position of the plane on exit was a solo fly away load out of a king air. The pilot was a jumper and new I was inexperienced (50ish jumps) and basically told me he wasn't going to slow down, but just whip a circle and out I go. So he told me, sit in the door and scoot out because the tail will be low and it just kinda never left my head after that. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Ok, bad assumption, I get it!, hey I did say most likely, not always Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

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Well during an emergency the plane would most likely be in a tail high senerio anyway, in other words descending or atleast leveled off. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

No, just a hop and pop from 5,500' jumper had 75ish jumps. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Sorry, I have accidental dumbass disorter and it affects my typing Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

I understand, I guess its just one of those things that get over looked after awhile. I could see where jumpers could make jumps weekend after weekend could get a little lax on the tail being a factor in exit and nothing ever go wrong, and then all of a sudden the plane speeds up, tail drops, no one pays attention, and next thing you know, the local freefly team is using your skull as a speed ball. I was thinking about having a discussion about this on safety day, or next weekend for that matter. I just think it should be presented a little stronger in my experience. Do you guys have any specific methods you have used in the past for exit procedures and the tail? How often and when did you review them? Oh yeah, my bad on the assumption! Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

I actually do read them, for educational purposes, and I did go back and research the incidents from last year and you are correct, but the one that I saw happen was a winguit pilot so my comment was a little one sided. I agree are in the fact that wingsuit pilots are probably just more aware, I am a wingsuit pilot so I can relate, I was just thinking maybe a little more emphasis needs to be put on this situation say...200 or 300 jumps before a wingsuit is in the picture. Hell why not from jump #1! I'm just playing, take it lightly. I don't post a lot because I don't like the whole post war thing, but I did want to see what other instructors with more experience thought about the situation. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Hello fellow instructors out there. First of all I am only a coach with 500 jumps so I am not trying to act like I know more than what I do. I am only hoping to bring this situation to a better light so that more emphasis might be placed on it in the future. Tail strikes are becoming quite the common happening in the incidents of our sport, usually related to wingsuits. This weekend three of my friends and I were doing hop and pops from 5,500', after two of us went out the plane began to climb again and the third jumper left the plane to high and struck the tail wing on a PAC. The jumper suffered a major break between the elbow and shoulder with no other major injuries. The jumper was wearing a helmet, but had no ADD in use so we all know how much worse this could have potentionally been. In my opinion this can be prevented simply by a jumper knowing what is suppose to be going on with an aircraft during exit. I remember my training on exit procedures as a student, I know what AFF instructors teach now and whats in a FJC, and I just took my instructoral course recently from a very respected and well know director and I know what we are trained to teach and is current. And I feel like this area in general in lacking. We spend a lot of time and emphasis on getting ready in the door and leaving stable ect. But there is a danger between the two, and it is the tail of the aircraft. I am just hoping to get the wheels rolling with this, I don't like these forums and I most likely won't check this page again so don't bother going through bashing procedures, I just want all of us to take this into consideration with students in the future. Maybe a safety day discussion for liscensed jumpers, something. Thanx guys. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Hey guys, I have a Dell laptop with pinnacle studio ultimate and am having trouble capturing video. Does anyone else have this set up or one similiar and how are you capturing. My computer always reads unable to find device. Beware of Wandering Minions!!!

Look I have tried it three times (both jumpers involved experienced) and it did not go well, lets just say think it over before you try it. A buddy of mine also saw one attempted that resulted in a cutaway at 6,000 ft. Bye Bye main! Very expensive jump. If you really want to do it out of a chopper or balloon! Beware of Wandering Minions!!!