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Worst curve I have ever seen. Go over his head to the head of the department; your prof. is required to follow the guidelines as set forth in the syllabus. Unfair playing field if he changes the grading scale midterm. Had to do the same thing with a cost accounting prof. who was a little full of himself. Also helps if other members of the class are with you.
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As a post-script to this thread, I'll add the following, this deal is now stone cold DEAD, all because of this kid's master rigger. I wholeheartedly agree with the last post, go through the buyers DZO and the dropzone's master rigger. But therein lies the problem with this deal, no accountable DZO at collegiate affiliated DZ, and the rigger is some "Joe-Bob" who lives 2 hours away from the DZ. For all intents and purposes(as far as I can surmise), he rigs out of his garage, no true on site loft, no storefront business, no true accountability. Funny thing, if it weren't for the people on the board who PM'd me, I really thought this was some kind of scam. Or if not a scam, this rigger and the kid were trying to turn a SALE into a try and buy. At first, I was fairly adamant that I just wanted to sell the gear and wasn't interested in any test fittings or try and buy. You guys are all skydivers, you know what the deal is, and you know what you are looking for,didn't want to drag out the process. He readily agreed as long as his rigger could inspect the gear to confirm that it is as advertised. Fair enough, then the kid gets cold feet because its not an exact fit, so I backed off and told him he could return if it didn't fit. So days later, I talk to "Joe-Bob" and he tells me he has the check and to send the rig. At that time, I asked him for a copy of the cashier's check that he said he had in hand, he couldn't hung-up the phone fast enough. So maybe he wasn't trying to out and out scam me, but my gut tells me, he NEVER had a check in hand. After I asked the rigger for his license and a copy of the check(my bad on the license, found out from you guys I could check on FAA website,thx) the deal was immediately dead. I didn't find out until several days later, when I got a return email from the kid. He told me the rigger had never seen anyone so paranoid in all his life. Was mad that I insulted his rigger buddy and that the rigger wanted nothing to do with me. He tells me that another rigger cautioned him about me(huh?) and that multiple riggers told him the way it works is the buyer forwards the name and address of himself and rigger and that as soon as contact is made, seller sends gear. Said it was easy to track him or rigger down if it was a scam. Maybe, if you are comfortable with buyer and rigger, which I never truly was. I mean, this kid gives me an address at a college and a cell number, yeah, that gives me confidence. His rigger is 2 hours away and won't give me his rigger info or a copy of the kid's check, yeah, that also gives me confidence. Confidence being the operative word here, as in confidence man. Old school for con man, though you guys cleared that up. So anyway, the kid then tells me that if I want to sell him the rig, I'm not allowed to contact his other rigger buddies!? Says, no middleman, no rigger, just you and me. Now THAT sounds like a scam. I actually gave him another opportunity through another of his riggers, never heard back from him. So I dunno, yeah I'm ticked and could easy flame the guy and his rigger, but I choose to keep this civil. But I will say this, and it should be well within the rules; be wary of the mid-west college affiliated DZ's crusty old Joe-Bob rigger who lives two hours away. The kid's probably alright, just extremely misled and misguided. I apologize to any Joe-Bob's that I offended. Thanks for letting me vent. PS/PS-Gear is still for sale
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I did contact his local DPRE for his state, said he didnt know the guy. I was looking to have the guy verify that he had a check and was the rigger in question. Not unreasonable IMHO.
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HUH?? who the heck is Todd Spillers? you are off base.
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That's something my wife would say, little passive-aggressive jib. I always just say, "last word", as in, I just got the last word in, she hates it. Doesnt really matter who the rigger is because I'm not sending my gear to him. I don't like how our conversations went, not what I was expecting, so I'm moving on.
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that may have been true before ebay bought paypal, but is no longer so. This gets brought up many times during the year, just seach the threads. In fact, I can find you sites that are anti-Ford/Chevy/Toyota/Honda//Obama/Clinton/skydiving/masturbating/US government.... If you are looking for a biased opinion about a topic, they are great deterrents. Paypal is a great tool, and myself with thousands of transactions and many, many others have no had problems. Of course, as always, buyer beware... I firmly believe in the power of the internet as a voice for the little guy; the great equalizer. Do a search for paypal and problems and you will see that many people have issues with Paypal. Granted, you can search for just about anything and find a grudge site, but in this instance, I don't believe thats the case. Paypal is a money transfer entity, how can there possibly be any issues with something as basic as this? That being said, not here to argue about Paypal, I'm happy your experience with Paypal is good. I just don't believe in them for large transactions.
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Go to www.aboutpaypal.org and read about the issues and problems people have with paypal. Very scary!
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There are several issues; first, I'm out of skydiving and have been for years. Am selling the rig that's been in the closet and I never got to jump. Plus, am more than a 1000 miles and many years from my last DZ. So, I don't have anyone to vouch for me or my own rigger or DZO. second, his DZ is school affiliated and does not have a DZO, run by some sort of committee I guess. what about using a well known rigging loft? probably fee's involved, im guessing.
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Am trying to sell some gear in the classified and am close to completing a deal. Only issue is how to complete transaction to protect both buyer and seller. Dude wants me to use his rigger and I'm fine with that. Mind you, I don't know this guy or his rigger from anyone and they are halfway across the country from me. So we agree to use his rigger, he says he sent the rigger a cashier's check, I talk to rigger and he says send the gear. My response, hold on, who are you?, I asked for a copy of the check that can be verified, and a copy of his riggers license. He laughed, said everyone knows him, blah, blah, blah... Maybe you guys can tell me the best way to complete a gear sale, and what is unreasonable to ask for? is asking for ID unreasonable? what about using third party rigging lofts? Thanks