skippyjumps

dude, I was there 2x I did see what"I" believe to be WMD, did take care of a few foreign fighters, but I'm just trying to piss people off. I'll back up my shit, but remember this; I DO NOT GIVE TWO,THREE, OR FOUR S%#TS!!!! If someone calls me a criminal or tells me they support me by not my illegal war I've been fighting( I live close to New Paltz NY) I don't cry myself to sleep. I don't care what anyone else thinks. But if I can piss off a few hundred slimey skydivers I think I had a good day. Point made? Oh BTW, Kipling is a great read! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Actually I have realized that I'm swinging hay makers at the whole dropzone.com crew. I just realized how close ya'll are. I will buy anyone a drink and finish the debate at my local water hole if anyone wants to finish. I refuse to brawl with 100+ "fair minded" people. So, I will not compromise my stance, nor will I finish this debate. We can agree to disagree. If not "F"- everyone!!!!! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

If you think of it in broader terms, its like this; If an entertainer speaks out for a specific political party they instantaneously shut off another equal or larger percentage of their other fans. I agree that we are free to voice our opinions but entertainers have a larger soapbox to preach from. But their pulpit is a double edged sword. I agree that I do not want to hear a political diatribe when I go to a concert. But everyone is different. The real proof of what is acceptable is the pocketbook!! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

It seemed alot scarier when it was happining!!! No kidding!!

Try 23 years and 2 tours of combat with combat units. Untold enounters. And many many many war stories/ fairytales to tell me grandkids some day. So excuse me if I don't drop and kiss your feet because you filed papers on an airport and sat on the shitter next to a real "hero". Because all of the heroes I ever knew are dead!!!! If you really believe that there atre no people in Iraq that were/ are involved in terrorist activities you are living in a beautiful world. I would love to join you there some day but I have to get ready to spend a few more holidays away from my family. Excuse me for belittleing your service. but I don't want anyone to get the wrong ideas. I thought I knew alot about life and the military until I went to combat. To put it in laymens terms it like riding a go cart down the street and the Indy 500. They both have 4 wheels but there is no comparison. So keep professing your expertice on a subject you know little about. I'm sure you puff your chest and tell everyone who assumes you were "in the shit" that you don't like to talk about it. See ya. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Look "Amazon", Your, our my and everyones Commander in Chief states many things. There is a thing called national security. There is also something called plausible deniability. I can tell you and anyone else that I am not happy with "OUR" commander in chief like many of you. I was injured and recieved multiple surgeries to correct the damage. I just underwent another surgey at the VA and can tell you our country is dropping the ball. With that said I'm sure you will challenge this statement as well. Like I've said come to my DZ. I'll buy a few beers and you can call me a liar to my face. And if you are real good, I'll let you touch my purple heart! Now, back to big people talk. I think it's time for the children to go outside and play so that us grown ups take care of adult stuff. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

We know everything don't we "Amazon". The whole war would stop and out would pop the black heicoptor srew sceaming for foam. They would then cordon off a 20 mile radius and set guards out every 15 feet to keep the local inhabitants away from their homes. During wars shit gets lost. Shit gets fucked up and intelligence gets ignored. Period. So you can roll that up and smoke it. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Look "Amazon", what is that all about anyway. Like I said the world is full of pseudointellectual armchair generals. You play one too many games of Risk lately? Then take a trip over to the recruiting office and sign up. Then we can have a real conversation. Otherwise I fell like a Garbage man swiping at flies. They allways hang around in the shitiest places. Buh, by! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

You are the fucking professor. Tell me. I don't get paid to make decisions of that nature. But we saw what we saw. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

I'll tell you what "Nerd Girl" put down your books and come train with my "boys". I say boys because 6 of them are not old enough to drink. You can come hang out when I assign the youngest one to teach you about NBC ( Nuclear Biological and Chemical) weapons. You would be surprised at the level of real education our military uses. So I'll be waiting. I'll be at Ft. Indiantown Gap from 28 March to 18 April getting ready to protect your pompous ass!!!!! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

***BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DUDE.. come on... if you found ANYTHING like that your Chump in Chief would have had you and the weapons on display on the White House Lawn..... Maybe you should call the White House and let them know about this information.. they would be salivating all over themselves to display that kind of "evidence" Face it.... you.... the children of my generation.. are getting fucked by a group of people who would not let the people trained in the art of war.. do the jobs you were trained for.... 4000 of you are dead and there is NO light at the end of the tunnel yet...It took the same kind of people a lot longer to see what was happening in Vietnam... and 52,000( killed in combat) and thousands more who have died of all kinds of afflictions that the VA still will not own up to aqs being service related. The people who are running this war RAN from serving in Vietnam.... they did not learn the lessons of Vietnam...... and more of your brothers and sisters will pay the ultimate cost..... time will tell how many that is going to be *** Being this is the third time I've tried responding to you, the other two shut down my computer, I will be brief. I was there. Were you? Yeah, I remember you. You were the nasty smelling grunt next to me that hadn't showered in 6 weeks! Like myself. If you feel comfort by hiding behind your keyboard while calling me a liar so be it. I was driving between Falluja and Baghdad on 15 May, 2003 when I drove past a burning warehouse. You say "he must have seen hundreds of burning warehouses". Yes I have, but this fire was strange. Orange, green, blue, black, and brown smoke is not normal. Later that day an Iraqi colonel surrendered to one of the companies of my battalion. He turned his men and himself in because his men were dying of radiation poisoning. It seems that the warehouse was full of nuclear by-products, He wanted to give his men a peaceful death. So, stick that in your hat and smoke it. You forgot to mention foreign fighters? No, you didn't you are selectively using what you think is enough. I personally put some of those foreign fighters in their sleep holes in Falluja. In May, 2003. They had been training in Iraq for some time before we were afforded the opportunity to send them to Allah. You also forget the unconditional surrender of Saddam Hussein after the Gulf War. Do the words unconditional mean anything? That means that the loser does not have a say. Well that jack off violated the terms on numerous occasions. He even tried assasinating President Bush 41. Did you freak out when President Clinton(William Jefferson not Hillary) bombed Iraq? Did you speak up on September 12th when President Bush stated that if a country harbored terrorists then they would be treated as an enemy? Wow, how we conveniently fog our memories. I also enjoy how you pat your puppy dog veterans. Are they your "poor stupid yet lovable pet"? Try petting one of those drug crazed combat vets. I'm sure unless you look like Bo Derek you will probably get bitten more times than you'll get licked. I have personal life experiences to call upon, not drug induced or pathological fabrications. What is your base of knowledge? Do you know the history of the region? Do you know what Iraqis want? You do? Tell me. I know that most Iraqis I spoke with told me that they wanted me to go home...After the United States was finished helping their country. They understand that we need to be in Iraq until they can take over. Iraqis also know we do not want to stay in Iraq. They do. I haven't seen much in the news lately regarding Iraq. Why? Because nothing negative to the United States is happening. If it were than the media would be all over it. When I was in Iraq my 2nd time my unit managed to help send a baby to the U.S for heart surgery. You never heard about it though. Because it was a positive news story. When I was in Falluja, we would get in large firefights. We would see the news later and we would laugh. It became a running joke everytime we watched the TV. We knew that the media was a bunch of editorializing hypocrites. Well once again I've rambled on too long. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

I think the only similarity is Wars kill. The media and the entertainment industries like to view war veterans as drug crazed killers. The hero of the Vietnam War was John Rambo, a highly decorated Green Beret! This shell shocked maniac worked in carwashes and as a dishwasher until a cop rubs him the wrong way. Then he goes on a one man war with society. Boy would our media love to have a real Rambo. That would prove all of their unproven theories. Lets remember that the actor who played John J. Rambo, Sly Stallone was acting in soft porn movies and teaching phys ed in an all girls school in Europe during the Vietnam war. Most Vietnam vets are very successful people. Not the cardboard dwelling maniacs of media delight. I think that this "war" as we call it was voted upon in congress. I also remember both democrats and republicans voted in unison for the invasion of Iraq. Saddam Husien surrendered unconditionally in 1991. After that time he violated the terms, if you call it that since it was an unconditional surrender, numerous times. The fallacy of no foreign fighters on the onset of the war is not true. I was in Falluja early 2003 and we were fighting foreign nationals in May 2003. How do I know/ I helped put a few of them in their eternal sleeping holes. I also saw what I believe to be WMDs'. We can argue all day long. You will pull out a NY Time article and I will call 5 of my closest friends who were there with me. I am sure you will not credit my sources, since NY Times is always right and never editorializes in their objective truths. I have spent just under 2 years in Iraq and will do so again if called upon. I may joke about retiring to a cardboard box under an overpass somewhere. I assure you I will do what most of us veterans do, live, thrive, and be successful at anything we choose to do. I do not expect pity, nor do I want validation. I do not care what you think. Nor do I want your handouts. Would you want me to impose my self depricating boldness upon you by walking up to you in your work outfit and say " I support you, just not your boss" I think your boss would be upset if he/ she heard that someone badmouthed the company you worked for and you said nothing to defend the business that puts food on your table. Get the picture. I don't care. If I am supported, thank you. If not, go play a game of hide and go fuck yourself". The first thing I do when reading statistics of anything, be it Iraq/ Vietnam or politics I immediately look for the bias. Then I immediately war game the outcome. The bias usually comes out somewhere between the "N" and the "C". Get it "DNC". I'll expect your venomous barbs. Please express them slowly because I am just another mindless robot for the maldeeds of the Grand Old Party". And if anyone wishes to call me a liar, please do so in person. Bring your supporting documentation. I will be waiting. BLUE SKIES... BLACK DEATH "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

We are out there. You just have to look. Sometimes under rocks. But we are out there!! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Uh, Only if I stop aksking what that "pully silver handle thingy" is for! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Would I be considered a whuffo fucknugget? Please tell me I am. I am consevative and I have a little more than a "whats that for" knowledge of skydiving. Yes Grasshopper "Whuffo". I also love the fact that I live near a large infestation of liberals. The best part of debating libs are they base what they consider facts on "feelings". I base what a fact is on at least 3 solid references. When a PhD runs away from an encounter with me it makes me chuckle. Why? Because they make sure that I know how well educated they are and how much better this makes them. I use the Soccratean method. I tell them that they are all knowing and ask them to teach me what is right. Then I question their supporting facts. By the way I "only" have a High School education. So these academians have to back up their opinions with cold hard facts. Difficult for uneducated idiots like myself, surprisingly this is almost impossible for these elitists. Arrogant self important libs surround themselves with like minded automnitrons. Differing opinions scare the shit out of them. I suggest the next time you decide to classify and call names to a group of people you use intelligent methods. I don't despise people of differing opinions, I usually buy them drinks and embrace our differences. We are all in this great sport because we love the excitement and joy hurling our fucknugget asses out of perfectly good airplanes. By the way I met your Princess in November of 2003, she looks a lot fatter on TV than in person. I would rather have her husband back in the oval office. So the next time you are in NY remember that A drink will be waiting for you from a conservative fucknugget whuffo. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Maybe we can do a search of all members of the House and Senate. We will find many "felons". I think that any/ all of these assholes are hypocrites. The family values crew only matters to nit picking idiots who don't have intelligent responses to the problems. Try addressing the issue. A politician has been accused of corrupt behavior. We should also remember that people (poilticians included) are presumed innocent until being found guilty in a court of law. Let the judicial system do its job. We can also cry about how corrupt our judicial system is. Or we can do something to change it. Our system is imperfect yet also the best show in town. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

It is an amazing work out as well. Swinging the paddles, dragging their little white carcasses to the boats. I have to say it is one of the best work outs I have ever done. Besides that stint in the beef slaughter house!!!!!!! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

For you, Kim. To the OP, welcome back. I spent almost 2 years playing in the sand myself, so I know a little about getting back in the air. As a military parachutist you know about airborne refresher. I know because I ran them for 13 of my 18 years in airborne units. Take that as one end of the spectrum. Now you can take Kims advice, The advice of a very experienced current jumper "uncurrent" instructor. The advice he gave you is sound. Use your best judgment. Yes judgment. As instructors we teach behaviors and responses, not judgement. As a Paratrooper and soldier in harms way you have learned the responsibilities and value of life. I learned in a small city west of Baghdad some might recognize the name "Fallujia" When I came home the first time my recurrent training was a little less than what is considered prudent. I lived. Why? Because I know the value of rehearsals. PCIs' In case our civilian friends are not aware of the term it is: Pre Combat Inspections. Welcome back and Blue Skies

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Nobody likes a RAT!! except the boss!!!!! You should have talked with the person teaching you! Sometimes the simple solution clears it up. Now this gal just got fired. Perhaps they need a morally grounded inexperienced cashier to take her place? You have the moral high ground? Maybe. Then why do you feel bad for snitching?? You just asked HR to be dishonest and lie to anyone who asks who snitched on them. What is the difference? Dishonesty is dishonesty. You should hold your head up high and let everyone see you are the one who told HR. Then let them know that if you see anyone else doing any morally or ethically "questionable" behaviors you will turn them in too. No? Oh, I see. Humans are animals and as such we have a constant fight with our souls. I certainly don't see the degree difference between taking something out of a garbage can and asking HR to lie for you. I guess its all in how we allow ourselves to compromise our integrity. This gal just got sent to the unemployment line. They are probably better off now anyway because they don't have "snitches" to look out for. Points to ponder and help you sleep at night.

A few drinks, and a few joints as well! "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

I guess the old saying stands strong" its' better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6". "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

Maybe you are jumping the gun. The United States Postal Service wouldn't allow those types of people to work for them. Suppose he/she was delivering mail and accidently caught the letter on the corner of his/her bag. Not wanting to deliver damaged mail, they diligently checked the envelopes. Yeah, thats the ticket. Unfortunately we can't stomp their m-f-ing asses! i'm sure that would stop the flow. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

I remember getting whopper headaches after doing it. So I stopped. But that didn't stop me from watching other idiots do it. In fact one kid banged his head on his way down and ended up in the hospital. He he, that was funny. The principle screamed at us and called us animals. That was the 70s' times were different. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. If that were true I'd be able to pick up a 747. "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"

" ...from my cold dead hands..." -The President, Charlton Heston "whatcha doin with that lawn mower blade?"