Meatbomber

that's about 100 gallons of water! i mean you can't rubber boat without water can ya ? wet'n wild :)

I flew that one tho "15.000 feet waterfall rafting" ;)

no no i do .. but only since 1 year as a freelacer .. so i have 'bout 200 hours on it now -> it's an experience thing you know ;)

nope .. i'm just the driver (never flown one of those tho, as only the most experienced drivers here are allowed that) but what folks said is that it ain't that hard...apparantly the hump forms a lee... but freaking cold :)

Regarding how to get on-top: above the coplitos seat is the so caled ditchig hatch, you get out there, there's a rope all the way back to a handle behind the hump The right engine (the one you're closest is shut down and feathered. Now where#s a pic of that franken otter ?? :)

Hey what's up there have to be some more jumpships with a cool paint job out there ! If ya know about'em post em Cheers MB

here's another one: Austrian Armed Forces (does a lot of dropping for their club) and Paracentrum Pribram (Czechia) The shark's cool btw :)

Hyas Folks! This is kind of a Poll, :) Who has the most creative, colorfull, crazy, stylish painjob on his jumpship ? i have 2 entries: Skydive PINK (Austria) 2Fly (Krems Austria) Go ahead post yours :) Cheers MB

Well one thing i notice in this discussion is that a LOT of people seem to have learned spotting from Cessnas. In my Opinion spotting on a Cessna is ok as the most you got 5 Skydivers out there, the jumprun therfor is relatively short and the margin for error thus greater. But as a few have already said, in the big planes like a Skyvan or a Casa a lot of folks spotting forget that there's up to 30 people behind them and if they are SPOT-on the rest of the load is most certainly off. Now when you do feel you can spot correctly and you have to spot for yourselfe in one of the big planes PLEASE TELL the pilot that you're going to spot ! I had numerous occasions where i was giving the green light and assumed jumpers were exiting (can't see if the whole load is standing up) and the first group was spotting and delaying the exit -> so the last few were deep.. i then adjusted my exit point and the next group went straight at the green and then was short of the DZ. COMUNICATE if you want to do your own spotting ! -> it's most certainly the pilot who's going to get the blame for people landing out. MB -> Skyvan driver

Wow diverdriver .. outstanding site ! I'm just starting to read thru all of it .. if i can contribute any i'd be more than happy ! (see you're still missing THE SHED :)) Cheers Phil

How do you guys calculate wind correction for the exit point ? We're flying the jumprun at 80 KIAS with the Skyvan, what we do to get the wind correction is: a) get the wind up to 5000ft and use 0.1Nm/3Kts Wind (wind drift on the chute) b) get Wind up at drop alt and use 0.1/6Kts Wind (wind drift in free fall) Then consider that you're "tossing" them 0.5NM due to exit speed e.g. 15 Kts up to 5000, 30kts at altitude, same direction (say 270) would give: Jumprun heading 270: 0.5NM+0.5NM = 1NM after passing overhead, and due to the balsitics you give the green light at 0.5NM after passing overhead. Now that's all nice as long as the Winds aloft and the wind on the ground is about the same direction, and as long as you don't have an exceedingly high number of exits. But how to deal with highly different wind directions, high number of exits (long jump run) What i do if the wind is calm and i have a large number of exits (for example there was a freefly corse and we had something like 17 exits with 24 skydivers in the load) is to fly an arc at 0.5 around the field, that gives everybody a pretty reasonable distance to the field and the seperation is not a problem too... Comments, suggestions, different experience ? MB