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I'd rather see a society with no hunger, crime, or poverty, not one where fucking idiots starve, steal, rape and murder, and don't make enough money to live. cos it's wrong. My point is, you seem to be of the mindset that allowing gay marriage is going to turn everyone gay or somehow force straight people into gay marriages. I'm really not sure where that idea comes from. at all. OK, here's a simple yes or no question, vortex, because i don't know the answer, and it's relevant. we'll go from here in a minute. Are you married? Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

do you think gay people are subhuman? Because it sure sounds like it. welcome back to the 1700s, folks. Or 1941 Germany, take your pick. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

There are numerous cases of homosexuality and bisexuality in the animal kingdom. Please provide a link to homosexual animal marriages, in fact, any animal marriage for that matter. . . . Oh my dear Lord in heaven. you're serious, aren't you? for the first time...i'm speechless. I have no words. I'm gonna go join the dudeism movement and just give up. it's hard to care anymore when i read statements like that. As for not calling it a marriage, who the fuck cares, it's a WORD. If you want to call it a civil union, fine, just don't bitch and moan when you see how much the government will have to spend to change the language in EVERY SINGLE LAW that mentions "married", "spouse", "husband", or "wife". Because if you don't think some insurance company is going to deny coverage of a "civil union partner" because the law says "wife" and the civil union happens to be two men...well, you need to come back to the real world. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

hrm...so i guess it's possible for penguins to have rational thought and be "wrong"... http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/arts/love-that-dare-not-squeak-its-name.html Wow, i didn't know animals had moral codes. So much for that "god made man special" thing, right? And this ability for animals to judge right or wrong opens up so many more cans of worms. i mean, if they can do that, we might wanna stop exploiting them, huh? I mean, they must KNOW it's wrong to put chemicals in their eyes and keep them in tiny cages so they taste better when we eat 'em, right? Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

So? I don't dislike straight people, I just think that imposing their will on a society is not what the constitution is all about. I don't dislike right-handed people, I just think that imposing their will on a society is not what the constitution is all about. I don't dislike male people, I just think that imposing their will on a society is not what the constitution is all about. why is it ok for a majority to impose their will on society? our country was set up in a way so that the will of the majority doesn't overwrite the rights of a minority. THAT'S what the constitution is all about. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Your PERSONAL issues Score is 100%. Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 50%. According to your answers, the political group that agrees with you most is... Liberal surprise. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

biscuit = cookie in brit/oz speak. just so you know ;) Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Some observations from a die-hard FS competitor. (I can hold my own in a sit, but don't ask me to try and fly on my head unless i'm diving down to a 100-way) 1. I am not sure that judging the health of freeflying based on competition entries is going to give the best picture. As a matter of fact, i'm not entirely sure this is a "freeflying vs. belly" debate at all. This is a "competitor vs. non-competitor" discussion. Shit, we have the same arguments in the belly flying world. Those who are driven to improve and naturally gravitate toward competition vs. those who are content to do 3 flail jumps on a saturday and be done with it. I'm not saying that belly fliers as a whole are more driven than freefliers, but you have to admit, the stereotype of the "dark side" exists for a reason. Many many freefliers i know are of the "go out and have fun on the weekend" mindset, and tend to shy away from the "driven to improve and compete" mindset. I mean, let's just take it easy, dude.... 2. Ok, at the risk of sounding like a wimp: freeflying is HARD. If i could draw a picture of the learning curves of freeflying vs. belly flying, the belly flying one would look like a gentle sand dune, and the freeflying one would look like, oh...i dunno....the cliffs at Brento, maybe. Once you get up into the national champion level in both, i think it tends to even out a bit, but climbing that cliff is daunting for a lot of new freefliers, i would bet. ok, so the real question becomes, how can you guys and gals, the world-class, most experienced freefliers, lay some lead lines to help the new folks up that cliff? (gawd, i'm mixing metaphors. it's late!) From what i've observed and experienced in my journey (both in skydiving and in life just by observing people around me), i might offer some suggestions. Who knows, this stuff may exist...but the point is if it does, i, as an inexperienced freeflier (for the purposes of this discussion) have never heard of them. First, I think 4-way belly does a great job of pulling in new folks not because it's easy, but because there's this amazing STRUCTURE in place out there in the FS world. People need and crave structure. Yes, i would venture to guess that even freefliers would benefit from it, especially those wanting to get better. By structure, i mean there's kind of a standard path, and a standard way of doing things that pretty much every person, and consequently every team, follows. This isn't the post to describe that all, but suffice it to say, I think you guys should STEAL it! USE the information that the belly flying teams have put out there to start establishing a path, a structure, for new freefliers to hang on to while they are learning. Trust me, a lot, probably the vast majority, of it is applicable to any discipline. Stuff like how to prep a skydive, how to debrief a skydive, how to visualize, etc. By the way, when i say "new freefliers" i don't necessarily mean those with 50 jumps. I mean those with the new mindset of wanting to improve to the point where they could compete or do world records, etc. I didn't find that mindset for 4-way FS until i already had about 500 jumps and could hold my own in a weekend zoo dive. Another BIG part of this is name recognition. Obviously you can't MAKE people do anything, but I can tell you, without a doubt, there is no fucking WAY 4-way FS would be where it is today without Arizona Airspeed, DanBC, and a few other major names. It's not just that they won golds. it's that they won golds then went out and shared their knowledge with everyone else in a structured format that made 4-way accessible to everyone. I guess what i mean is, freefliers need their own "Airspeed". A group of people who kick ass, then take the time and effort to disseminate their knowledge to the rest of us. Who are willing to take the lead in the freeflying world, hold camps, tunnel sessions, write articles, organize at boogies, coach, etc. Ask yourself this: How many freefliers have heard of DanBC, or even Arizona Airspeed? Most of them, would be my guess. Now flip it around. How many 4-way or belly fliers have heard of Jason Peters or Amy Chmelecki? (I don't count, i used to jump at SDAZ ) My guess would be....not so many. Many of heard of Rook Nelson, but that's probably about it...and i'd say he's got his hands full, heh. ok, it's late, i need sleep, just wanted to put down a few thoughts i had after coming home from nationals and reading this thread

Nomad, welcome to arguing on DZ.com. this happens to me all the time, because when you actually put forth an answer that disproves their point, they ignore it and keep shouting. My guess is your post had too many long paragraphs and/or big words in it. You need to write it like this. One sentence per line. Maybe bold the part where you said a skydiver lost a sponsorship deal because of this. It may or may not work. People HATE to admit they're wrong, they'd rather keep yelling. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Spent a few days there (had to show up and win a gold, heh). Cobra Kai! Have to agree about the "deadness", especially on weather holds. Didn't hear much from the Perris crowd about this overtly, though there were definitely some sarcastic jokes and jabs going around. For example, someone had an extra PD bottle opener, and people joked that they weren't allowed to give that to a teammate here, that sort of thing. I did see a huge pile of PD pullup cords left on the floor of the AC packing area. The person who placed them there said something to effect of he just happened to have these laying around.... I also saw Kelly F wandering around with an absolutely gorgeous Infinity on his back...but nothing beyond that. Hope he didn't get in trouble. As for "extra" stuff, i guess Camscore was new, but it replaced a perfectly functional scoring system, so not sure if that counts. I think Nomad (who apparently works in marketing/PR...) gave a perfect example of how this affected someone THIS YEAR, right now. why can't folks accept that? Now we just need to discuss how to deal with it, i guess. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_hl951 Too skinny for coverage, too... Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

meh. I prefer original electronic music, tbh. trance, prog house, breakbeats are my thing. Mashups seem, well, i guess "contrived" is a good word for it. I usually change the channel if i hear one. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

bah, i don't like them because when i clicky on fox news videos it resizes my firefox window. grrr. I think the trouble with Fox is that they are trying SOOOO hard to avoid a "liberal bias" label (which is BS anyway) that they come across as scripted and stilted and ridiculously over the top neo-conservative. honestly, the most "fair and balanced" news source i can think of is BBC. *shrug* Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Fixed it....that was my point, young GI's don't know what it means, how can they uphold it? Not an insult to anyone, hell, I took teh oath too and I can remember thinking, "what is the Constitution?" I hate that "fixed it" shit. Get your own damned words and stop fucking with mine. You and cliff are just sitting here calling military members stupid, that's all this is. "not an insult to anyone" my ass. And if you really didn't know what the fuck the Constitution is, well, it ain't THEM that's stupid, it's you, boy. By the way, you know they actually TEACH this stuff in school nowadays, right? And cliff, what would you have them do? desert? So then you can call them cowards when they get their names in the paper for their courts martial, i bet. man, this forum needs an ignore feature. Cliff would be first, followed by anyone who does that "fixed it" bullshit to me. YOUR lack of creativity or erudition is not MY problem...get your own damned words. BTW Lucky: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/erudition just in case. People like you give liberals a bad name, and that makes me very sad. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

*facepalm* what's with this crusade against the military folks? did one of them piss in your wheaties? You must be a pacifist. no...wait, you posted about protecting your home with guns and the intent to use them in another thread. Pacifism is out. You must be in favor of reinstating the draft, right? I mean, you called the all-volunteer force "mercenaries" elsewhere, so i guess we need non-volunteers to remedy that problem. Right? And Lucky...i can sum up what the oath means. It means "I may not agree with what you say, but i will defend to the death your right to say it." Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

You're kidding right? It was tedious to drag your mouse 10 inches? You didn't even have to click on the icons to get where you want. you're kidding right? It was tedious to even read my comments? You didn't even get to the praises, apparently. Look, part of being a leader or host is the ability to take constructive criticism, not as a slam, but as ideas to make it better. You really don't have to get all defensive about it. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

After seeing Camscore in action and reading everything here, i think the small gripes you're seeing aren't necessarily about CamScore vs. OmniSkore (the actual systems), but are more probably due to the design of the uspanationals.com website itself. Yes, it LOOKS great, but finding things is a bit of a challenge, and you get the sense that things we want front and center are buried a bit by the glitzy graphics and/or link mazes. My first suggestion would be to add text below the link icons at the top of the page, or put them to the side in a list or bullet-type format. I can't speak for anyone else, but i didn't memorize what the little icons meant, and mousing over them every time was a bit tedious. I know all that info is on the front page, but there's just something about the format that doesn't lend itself to easy usage. Anyway, you guys did a great job, and honestly, it's your first time hosting nationals, and we're being harsh and comparing it to DZs/hosting teams who have several events under their belts. What's old hat to the SD AZ (for example) team is new to you guys, and i thought it went well. Registration, in particular, was VERY efficient, and it was great to have the waiver online and printable to bring with me. Also, an air conditioned packing/hangout area was awesome Though the humidity left me wondering how any of you people could be crazy enough to actually CHOOSE to live there Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

I voted other because the BCS is the biggest pile of steaming dogshit ever invented. I'm biased and angry, being the fan of and a graduate of two different mid-major schools that have had consistently good programs and get NO recognition except some crappy ass bowl on some random day between xmas and new year that no one watches. And then when they try to schedule "major" teams, the "major" teams are fucking pussies and refuse to play them because they don't want to get humiliated or risk messing up their BCS standings by losing to a small school. GRRRR. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

seriously, she is the biggest anal piece of whiny-ass-bitch crap that i've ever come across. no wonder he cheated...i'm surprised he didn't rip her tongue out. I can't stand women like her. sorry. high-maintenance. anal. germaphobic. whiny. obsessive-compulsive. CONSTANTLY AFRAID of EVERYTHING. I watched one episode and wanted to punch her in the face. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

yeah, and i know there are some teams that are doing 8-way only, thus having the draw tuesday night and not starting till thursday could open the door for some ethical issues, for those unscrupulous ones. Anyway, off to the airport. hopefully the good weather holds. it's raining here in SD, maybe we took it away Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

question before i hop on a plane: If 4-way continues to wednesday, will the 8-way draw be moved to wed. night, with a start on thursday? Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

OHHH BABY! WHO DEY! Can't believe i missed this thread before. good to see some more Bengals fans crawling out from the woodwork. It's been a rough 20 years, yanno? I live in San Diego now and tend to cheer for the Chargers, too, but the Bengals will always be my team. Now, my one wish is they win a game without taking it down to the wire...not sure my poor heart can handle the stress! Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

yah...i miss Omniskore! I don't need flashy videos or blogs, just the facts, the people, the scores. I'll be there tomorrow, but still... Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

I miss Omniskore =( Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

yup, quite the airball. Though unsurprising with the demise of the English language. I guess we'll see. I'm off to nationals in a couple of days, and while i am unsponsored, i know several friends who are. We will see how it goes. Hoping, of course, that the weather lets us jump! Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!