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Just as, say, Al Gore has the right to his opinions, and does not deserve hateful attacks and investigations into his personal life (i.e. his energy use?)

Uh.. the only reason that Obama was a shoe in.. was the performance of the right wing fucknuggets that thought wars of convienience were a good idea... while giving a shit about domestic economic factors....all of this brought on by fringe right politics that you and your fellow travellers foisted on this country... its going to be a generation before the American people will allow the same kind of idiocy.

Of course not. That's just silly talk. No, people who think that people sexually attracted to their own gender are as bad as convicted violent criminals, or indeed any criminals, are bigots.

Right. Those people being bigots, and those teachings being bigotted.

1. I didn't call anyone a bigot. 2. He says he has homosexual "friends" but then he says he doesn't want then anywhere near his children. Doesn't make much sense to me. Why be friends with someone you think is so horrible? (Do you have murderer and rapist friends who you don't want anywhere near your children?) 3. Are you seriously comparing homosexuals to rapists and murderers?

No, but thinking that being gay is anything like being a rapist or a murderer would definitely make you a bigot.

He didn't say that he wouldn't want his kids hanging out with homosexuals. He said, "I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children." (emphasis mine) Which makes me wonder why he would even want to be friends with anyone who he feels that way about (assuming he actually does have homosexual friends, which I sort of doubt). Anyhow, with as much attention as he's still getting six months after the election, I think I smell a running mate for Palin in 2012! But maybe he could change his name to "Joe the Six-pack Plumber" or something like that.

And fewer options than the "super rich", who appear to be paying at a lower rate. According to the article" "In 2006, the most recent year for which information is available, the average tax rate for the working rich was 22.8% - that is, after all was said and done, they ended up paying 22.8% of their adjusted gross income in income tax. The floor for being in the top 1% was an income of $388,806. That same year the average tax rate paid by the super-rich - the 400 filers with the highest incomes - was only 17.2%."

Aww, you mean well!

Gee I wonder why we did not hear this from the same people ...the deadenders....when THE GREAT DECIDER was in charge..

>hold those accountable for the financial disaster . . . Who, and how would you "hold them accountable?" >send most of the illegals home . . . "Most?" So you'd let some stay? Which ones? >stop giving billions to foriegn governments . . . OK. Which ones would you stop supporting? >not sign the packages that have pork in them. Which pork would you cut? Veteran's hospital funding, perhaps?

The only two pictures that former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld had on the wall of his E-ring office were one of President Karzai & him and one of former President Musharraf & him. Former SecDef William Perry recalled having a portraits of Gen Marshall and Commodore Oliver Hazard Perry, etchings of Commodore Matthew Perry’s landing in Japan, and pictures from the denuclearization taking place at Pervomaysk, Ukraine. (Pervomaysk was the site of the largest and most modern ICBM field in the former Soviet Union. At it’s height, there were 700 nuclear warheads at Pervomaysk, all aimed at targets in the USA.) [NB: I don’t think former SecDef Perry is closely related to either Commodore Perry] I think it’s neat to see and to think about what leaders choose to put forth as individuals, moments, or words of inspiration and wisdom or what they select to project significance or importance of their aims, policies, and tenure. It's not something that one often gets a chance to see. Among other things that were displayed on the walls of the Oval Office, it has been reported that President GW Bush had the words of British Army officer LTC Tim Collin’s Eve-of-battle speech from March 2003. Video of actor Kenneth Branagh recreating Collins' speech from the BBC docu-drama 10 Days to War. It's very good and supposedly was delivered extemporaneously! I shared my observations with a few folks via PMs. The inspiration for this post came from a PM response from Jason [downwardspiral], asking me what I would put on the wall of my E-ring office. It took me a while to think about who or what I would want (today). So if you had an E-ring Pentagon office, 8th floor Foggy Bottom (State Dept) office, were the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), or had any other cabinet position, what would you display on your wall & why? Would you care what others thought? Would you try to choose strategically? What message, if any, would you want to send to the folks who work for you? Or for the folks, such as international visitors, that came to see you? /Marg

I suspect you don't realize just how accurate those words are. Edit: [billvon] made the observation before I did.

Very good questions. Just don't forget that "wealth" can can spread upward as well. The last 25 years are a real testament to that. And on top of what some of them "earned" we recently gave them bonuses for being shitty at their jobs. Maybe we should give them a tax cut just to be sure. Hate to snipe and run but I've got a long weekend ahead. See ya!