Eliakim

Well, that sounds pretty good, for an "outside number" on either side of the flight path (depending on the wind direction). Now, the next thing that is needed is a very accurate flight path for the area. Is that available?

Well..., another diversionary tactic by you, but I see that's your modus operandi, so I'm not surprised. I'm sure everyone will note that it's not me who is going down that track. It's the D.B. Cooper track I'm going down. If I were intent on discussing the topic of the shoot-down of TWA Flight 800, I would go to an appropriate forum location. However, the only relevance for pointing out the bumbling and inept nature of the FBI with its own internal agendas (which have nothing to do with the truth of the matter) is simply to put the "D.B. Cooper quest for truth" into "context" for skyjack71 so that she doesn't come to "expect" anything of use or value from the FBI. She's barking up the wrong tree if she expects anything other than an "FBI-related agenda" from that agency (which doesn't relate to the truth of the matter). She'll find more use and value here on this forum (and other like forums) than she'll ever see from the FBI. That's the relevance of putting it into the context of how the FBI "normally operates" (as it did, and still does with the shoot-down of TWA Flight 800). I posted here on this forum because of the D.B. Cooper hijacking and what became of him. The ineptness and bumbling of the FBI is simply an accompanying backdrop and current context for discovering more information about this hijacking. I wish skyjack71 well in her quest for the truth of the matter and encourage her not to depend upon the FBI, which doesn't have the same "quest for truth" in mind...

No, not because it's only on the internet, but because it's been backed up and verified by many different sources. The witnesses themselves, took out a full page ad in the Washington Times (see the link I provided) because they were ignored, consistently, over and over again. There were over a 100 of them. In addition, investigative reporters showed that the information being given to the public was false. And furthermore, highly-placed officials of the government (in many positions from other administrations) backed up and supported what was being reported and investigated, in contradiction to the FBI and its doctored and false reports. There were very well qualified witnesses who saw the missile coming up and shooting down the airliner. This was seen by over 100 different witnesses in good positions to see it. So, no, this is backed up and verified and supported by a very large and qualified and expert group of people, along with many very observant, ordinary citizens. BUT, as I said, the point of my particular post was not to "hijack" this thread, so I'll only refer you over to those links and the investigative reporting and the books and the videos and the information -- in order for you to do more research on your own. Well, here's the problem with what you just stated here. You're linking a very well documented scenario of TWA Flight 800 being shot down by a missile -- with -- other "far-out" and unsubstantiated and false scenarios about these other things. These are not what these witnesses will back up -- that is..., being linked with those other theories you throw in there. These other witnesses and the experts would object to being linked with those other far-out scenarios regarding these other events, because they simply do not support them. You're simply doing that to make it look like they also fall into that same category -- which they don't and they would all object to that. I -- likewise -- would object to that, because I don't support those other far-out scenarios. HOWEVER, it's clear that the shoot-down of TWA Flight 800 (out of NY City) was one of the "opening shots" of the terrorism that we've been subjected to, by Islamic Terrorists. Keep in mind that the World Trade Towers were already subjected to another terrorist attack in 1993, a good 8 years before the second terrorist attack that brought down the buildings. There are several Islamic terrorists in jail (right now) from that 1993 Islamic terrorist attack. When one of the perpetrators (of that prior Islamic Terrorist attack) was taken to a Federal hearing, in New York, being flown by helicopter, it was pointed out that the World Trade Towers were still standing. His answer to the Federal Agents pointing that out to him was -- simply -- "We'll get them next time!" (and they did!!). The shoot-down of TWA Flight 800 just outside of NY City was just such another type of Islamic Terrorist attack, which many people were inclined to ignore at that time. Well..., no more these days, as they are succeeding in attacking our infrastructure, plus the fact that our present-day government officials no longer maintain that we will avoid another such terrorist attack. Now the officials say that it is only a matter of time before the Islamic terrorists attack again and succeed again.. They say it is not a matter of "if" -- but rather -- a matter of "when". They say it is a certainty that they will attack and they will succeed. It's only a matter of time. It's time for you and others to wake up. As far as those "other posters" that I'm talking about, you'll notice that several of them have been banned -- and for good reason. Those are the ones I'm talking about. It's about time for ordinary and normal citizens to take these matters into their own hands and figure these things out themselves and get to the bottom of these kinds of things, and not depend on inept and bumbling federal agencies who have agendas of their own, which do not match up with the citizen's desire to get at the truth of the matter. "Truth" for a lot of federal agencies does not exist -- only "agendas" exist for them.

Well, after getting almost all the way through these many comments, I'm glad to see you're still "at it" through all the "grief" that several people have given you in the past. I've seen a few other stories, in past years, about what you've been saying here, but this particular thread has been quite enlightening. Without trying to do any thread "hijacking" here (LOL!), let me reference the TWA Flight 800 "shoot-down" (outside of NY City), where it is really apparent how the FBI "picks and chooses" its theory and its story for how something happens, and then interviews only those witnesses who support that theory (and ignore the overwhelming evidence to the contrary). The following link shows a full page ad taken out by witnesses to the TWA Flight 800 shoot-down, that the FBI refuses to "hear" or "report" about, because it goes against what they've been politically told to report. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a1f18de6090.htm Look at that full page ad and think about what would make that many people object to what the FBI was doing -- that is -- totally ignoring legitimate witnesses and overwhelming eyewitness testimony. It's obviously the same thing here, too... Also, look at the following for how way off base the FBI can be, when it goes against what they figure is either politically expedient or that which covers their rear-ends. How the FBI misled the public... http://www.cashill.com/twa800/10th_anny_7of10.htm Full accounting of how the FBI lied and lied to the public... http://www.cashill.com/twa800/ BUT, like I said -- I am not trying to hijack this thread but rather, giving a very real context in a real life and serious situation, where the FBI is not to be trusted with the truth in any situation. They are only to be believed as far as you can pick up the agency and throw them. So, Jo..., "Is it any wonder that you cannot get a fair hearing and investigation into what you have presented?" No, not at all. You're barking up the wrong tree if you expect the FBI to produce anything of value, any more than ordinary citizens can, on their own. No one should ever expect anything more from the FBI than a "politicized agency" with their own agenda and no desire for the truth, except where it may benefit themselves. Even crooks and thieves tell the truth from time to time. The FBI is in good company with some of the same people they seek. However, I did not just sign up, right now, only to say this to you. Anyone who has ever seen how the FBI has handled several different types of high-profile situations in the past, already knows that it's never to be depended up for "truth". It produces the real truth only where it benefits the agency and, the "manufactured truth" where it benefits themselves, too. So, that's was not the motivation for me getting on here, at this moment. I just wanted to say there was one thing that stuck with me and that I wanted to comment on, from way back then, in Oregon. I was in Lake Oswego that night, working (in a grocery store). I remember the night (just before Thanksgiving) and what a "story" that was, when it hit the news. I mean, it captivated everyone at work that evening and we followed it as much as we could at work. It was one of those events that "stuck with me" over the years, and I can place myself right back at that night, at work, remembering the events. And, this is what caused me to get on here right now. You commented about the weather, perhaps not being as bad as some say it was. Let me tell you, from where I was in Lake Oswego (which is well south of the supposed jump spot; about 30-35 miles or so), the weather was "wicked bad" that night. Now, let me tell you, that in Oregon and Washington, we're used to cold and blustery and rainy nights, but this night was especially so -- even for Pacific Northwest standards. I mean..., I thought (even being used to this kind of weather) that it was especially bad. And for an Oregonian to say that, you know it had to be bad, because "normal" cold and blustery and rainy does not bother Oregonians. This night was especially bad. And so, that's "saying something" for the Pacific Northwest and what the residents there know of that kind of weather. So, let me assure you -- it was a very bad night to be out in the weather. BUT, that doesn't mean that I disbelieve that ole "D.B." could have done it. No, I think he did (whomever he is). And, from what you're saying -- at the very least -- your late husband thought he was the "man". I believe you there. Whether he would have misled you in that belief or not, is another story, but it appears that he has given you that very clear idea, at the very least. I wouldn't depend upon the DNA evidence. That's very shaky. The minute I heard about that "so-called" evidence, I immediately could see holes big enough to drive a Mack truck through. I mean on what basis does the FBI maintain that they even have the DNA of ole D.B.?? Sorry, that just doesn't hold water for me. Now, I'm not sure how soon the information got out that all the serial numbers were recorded. I just can't remember that, myself. However, it's not inconceivable that (if your late husband was D.B.) that he might have floated a "test" by burying (or placing) some bills where they could be found, in order to see what came of the discovery, and to learn what the authorities could "know" about it, once that "test batch" was put out there (for someone to find). If nothing came of it and it remained a mystery (after being found), then perhaps your late husband may then have decided to get the rest of it. However, once he saw what happened with that discovery, he realized that the money was "worthless" to him (at least if he wanted to keep out of jail). Well, anyway, that's about all I have to say about it. Keep up the good work and keep investigating. And don't count on the FBI to help you. You're not going to get any good help from that agency -- except by accident. This is something that people are going to have to do on their own. It's good that you came to this spot to get some help and advice. It's just too bad that several people decided to be so snotty and mean about things. I don't know what's wrong with some people. Some people obviously have some bad mojo in their upbringing and/or have some axes to grind that they decide to take out on anyone they can. I'll try to get through to the end of this thread tonight, if I'm able...