hello, it was first hand information from president of Ukrainian skydiving club " Graal", Serei Ostapenko, Ret. Colonel. He showed System Monarch, Raven, reserve and several Cypreses. he doctored himself. Not an old military equipment!!! More likely nobody going to show up in America with gear like that, but concern is that his words were "it is widely acceptable", not mine. But from replies I got I am OK with the fact that in my country--America skydivers have airworthy equipment. Yes, I know My post got some resonance and lifted some conversation but safety is first, people lives are in question when president above club sending his skydivers up on the air with doctored equipment. Do you want to send your child to skydive to his club?? Thanks for reply, very important and intresting conversation for all of us. I contacted several officials from Ukraine Federation, I think they will make sure above situation will be discussed among Ukrainian skydivers, and it's all what I wanted, not a make a stir, but make aware and discuss. Katrina.